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Old 06-08-2009, 10:08 PM
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Thanks Mill Rat. I seem to be a bit confused by the syntax, or something here. So we might alternatively say, "He'll have to be careful enough with his steep to ensure that it is a mash." ? Is that the point?
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Old 06-08-2009, 10:17 PM
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yes, exactly. Sorry for not being clear enough.
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Okay, I've got a silly question. What's the difference between steeping grains at 150-155 for 1/2 and hour and mashing them at 150-155 for 1/2 an hour?
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Old 06-09-2009, 08:41 PM
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yes, exactly. Sorry for not being clear enough.

Well, as you can see, I was misinterpreting or confused. Thanks for that confirmation, BD. You da man . . er, I mean you da DAWG!
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Old 06-09-2009, 08:45 PM
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Okay, I've got a silly question. What's the difference between steeping grains at 150-155 for 1/2 and hour and mashing them at 150-155 for 1/2 an hour?
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Okay, I've got a silly question. What's the difference between steeping grains at 150-155 for 1/2 and hour and mashing them at 150-155 for 1/2 an hour?

Steeping is soaking, or making a tea. Gets starches and flavors out floating around for flavor, and sometimes for head.

Mashing requires enzymes found in base malts. Causes some starches to convert into sugar. Gets flavor with less starch and more sugar.
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Old 08-08-2010, 11:21 AM
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Sooo... Burton Ale under my belt I'm going onto my next recipe a Raspberry Lemon Hefeweizen!

I'm trying to make something my girlfriend will like and she loves the hefes. We've got tons of wild raspberries around right now so I was gonna utilize them!

here's what I've been kicking around lemme know!

4.25 lbs. American 2-row
6.00 lbs. White Wheat Malt
0.25 lbs. American Caramel 10°L
0.33 oz. Amarillo (Pellets, 8.5 %AA) boiled 60 min.
0.50 oz. Willamette (Pellets, 5 %AA) boiled 1 min.
Yeast : WYeast 3333 German Wheat or 3068? not sure which

Target OG: 1.047
Target FG: 1.011
Target IBU: 11.5 (Should/Could this be higher?)
Target ABV: 4.7

Don't know how long to ferment is at all...help!

Gunna use the zest of 2 Meyer lemons (they're much more floral than normal lemons I've used them to make Lemoncello before) in the secondary

I was gunna puree a few cups of wild raspberries and hold them at 155 for 10 min to pasteurize and then dump that into the secondary as well. I'm not sure how much I should add though, nor do I know when (should I add it when I rack to the carboy or add after the beers been in the secondary for a few days?)

As always any and all criticism is desired!

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Old 08-08-2010, 01:50 PM
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I was told 2 lbs per gallon for fruit, though I don't know if you would change that with it being a wheat beer. I believe you want to rack onto the raspberry in the secondary and be sure to have a blowoff tube set up. My blueberry cream ale had a very explosive reaction. It depends on who you talk to as to whether you should cook them for a bit, I just tossed them right in after rinsing them and everything turn out fine.
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Woah 2lbs per gallon?! eash...that's gunna be a tough order, I just went out and collected 4 cups of raspberries and blackberries...but unfortunately I'm like 2 weeks late on raspberries season and the pickins are slim....

So if I were to make a 5gallon batch I'm gunna need 10lbs of berries? that's like 20 cups of berries...only 16 more cups to go...

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Old 08-08-2010, 07:40 PM
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Yeah, sounds about right, lol. I ended up using 9 lbs of blueberrys since the largest frozen bag I could find was 3 lbs and I was just to cheap to buy another bag for 1 lb. I would definitely go with puréeing or crushing the berries just to make sure they are all broken up, that is if you don't Pasturize them 1st.
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Old 08-08-2010, 08:25 PM
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So I can use frozen berries? I was under the impression that wasn't as good...(I suppose that's cause fresh is always better but yeah...)

So anyway, frozen is cool?

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I made a blackberry wheat with 6 lbs. of frozen blackberries in secondary with a blow off tube. The blackberry wasn't overwhelming and was a popular brew. I would freeze them and thaw them to rupture the cells but I personally wouldn't cook them first. Be prepared to have stained hands for a day or so afterward.
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+1 on the stains,lol. My sink, an old porcelain one, was stained blue/purple for a few days.
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So don't cook em? how do you ensure they're sterile before putting them in the secondary?

Just assume that the freezing kills bacteria?

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So don't cook em? how do you ensure they're sterile before putting them in the secondary?

Just assume that the freezing kills bacteria?

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Well... I... Uh... you see... Um...

Basically we can only sanitize not sterlize and by adding them post fermentation to a brew that was about 5% ABV and then ferments the fruit and probably adds another 1.5-2.0% ABV I didn't worry. Plus I researched it and most that turned out the best weren't cooked. I figure we worry too much about sanitation sometimes today. What did they use to sanitize long ago?
I still have ONE lonely bottle left. I drank one about a month ago and it was still pretty darn good.
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