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It's hard to describe-like explaining "blue" to a blind man. I know that my rye beers are drier than my other beers. The problem with the beers you're trying is the hops overpower the other flavors in the beers. try a German roggenbier if you can find one, it',, give you a better appreciation of the rye contribution.
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