Community Brew?

[HogieWan]

BTW - here's the BJCP guidelines for Category 8C - Extra Special/Strong Bitter

[paulcgi]

agreed. we really need to narrow things down. If you read the specs, it's stuff like "moderately low to moderately high hop aroma"
uhhhh, that's a mighty big range to play with. But I guess that's what's great about this 'hobby' is that we can adjust to our own liking. I can tell you already that I will shoot a little lower on IBUs when I brew this as I don't care for really bitter beers a 1.055 I'd try to shoot for the low range of hops.. 35 or so. Just like in the last issue of BYO just because it's called "bitter" doesn't mean that it has to be ;-)

[HogieWan]

Originally posted by paulcgi
Just like in the last issue of BYO just because it's called "bitter" doesn't mean that it has to be ;-)

the style was called "bitter" as opposed to the mild, the other traditional british session ale.

[paulcgi]

I know.. just saying that the range of IBUs depending on OG can go from balanced/slightly hoppy to outright bitter.

I wasn't sure I wanted to do this, but I'll throw this out, for starters/discussion

8.5 lbs MO
1/2 lb crystal 60
1 oz black patent

1.5 oz EKG @ 60
.5 oz EKG at 15

at 80% that hits OG 1.053, SRM 15, IBU 36
I don't have Marris Otter in my grain list specifically, but used british pale for the calcs.
anyway, starting point at least.

[MichaelM]

Ok thats alot of ideas floating around lol!!!!

I figure we can make everyone happy though....each brew can have a diffrent format...
one brew can be a specific recipe down to what grains hops yeast to use...... the diffrences in peoples efficiancy/mash scheduals/steeping methods/water etc etc will all have wildly diffrent results in how the brews come out anyways.
Can do a interpretation brew where a style is picked with a few guidlines on hopes malts etc but leave the amounts times etc etc up to the brewer.... Etc etc

But here is what I propose.... Otis this was your idea so I say get a panel of a few people on here and you guys can take ideas of types and diffrent formats make a decision and post what the community brew will be. If we dont get a person or a small group of people to make the major decisions it will never get done lol and I elect Otis as Head of the community brew project.

[Otis_The_Drunk]

OK I just had a side discussion with Danno,
(danno you have a PM)

Lets get a few things out of the way here.

1) put yourself down if you are going to partisipate.

2) Extract or AG?

3) Do we decide on a recipe and stick to it, or do your own thing?

4) do we go with Austin Homebrew Supply?

5) if your going to partisipate, are you willing to ship two bottles to X number of fellow brewers after completion for evaluation? (I agree with Danno on this one and go with 3 fellow brewers.

6) can brew and bottle and ship on/around May 1st. (I think we need to evaluate these side by side, so aome consistency needs to be introduced.)"

[Otis_The_Drunk]

I nominate Danno to help me organize this.

[HogieWan]

1) I'm in

2)AG?

3) I say decide on a very narrow style interpretation

4) I'd be willing to order everything for this batch from AHS

5) I will definately ship bottles

6) May 1st is WAY too soon - I have recipes planned and in the works, trying to get bottles to SA's Longshot and fill some empty kegs - maybe push it to July 1st

[Otis_The_Drunk]

July 1 2007 works for me, As I am entering the Longshot as well.
(I Plan on entering my Sweet Stout)

I beleive that a narrow guidline is the bast way to go....

I like the idea of a single recipe but using your own technique.

paulcgi, I like your recipe for it's simplicity, but we also need to come up with a recipe for the extract brewers.

[Cimarronin]

1) Yep
2) AG
3) Recipe
4) Austin good.
5) Will ship to 3 people easily
6) Can have ready by 5/1

Is this how to vote?

[Otis_The_Drunk]

2 in for AG so far.... Lets move up to 7-1-07 for deadline as there are a number of us who are entering the SA Longshot.

[Mad Scientist]

1 - K, I'm in

2 - all grain, all the time

3 - Leave on part up to intepretation...everyone use same malt bill & yeast, but hop on your own, with english hops

4 - AHS is fine by me

5 - If I ship to three, will I have three shipped to me?

6 - July 1 is much better for me

[MichaelM]

1) I am in
2) AG (woohooies nice to be able to say that)
3) Recipe this time
4) If they do us a good deal AH is just fine with me!
5) I will ship to 3(hell would ship to everyone if I could afford it)
6) thats plenty of time I believe

[MichaelM]

Recipe for ESB both AG and Partial mash/Steep

AG Community ESB

6 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 80.0 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 13.3 %
8.0 oz Aromatic Malt (26.0 SRM) Grain 6.7 %
1.00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00%] (60 min) Hops 19.7 IBU
0.50 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00%] (10 min) Hops 3.6 IBU

(calculated at 75% Eff)
Est Original Gravity: 1.040 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.0 %
Bitterness: 23.3 IBU
Calories: 43 cal/pint
Est Color: 10.9 SRM



Extract/Partial Mash Community ESB

1 lbs Extra Light Dry Extract (3.0 SRM) Dry Extract 17.2 %
3.3 lbs Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 56.9 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 17.2 %
8.0 oz Aromatic Malt (26.0 SRM) Grain 8.6 %
1.00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00%] (60 min) Hops 19.7 IBU
0.50 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00%] (10 min) Hops 3.6 IBU
1 Pkgs Muntons Premium Gold (Muntons) Yeast-Ale

Est Original Gravity: 1.040 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.0 %
Bitterness: 23.2 IBU
Calories: 172 cal/pint
Est Color: 11.8 SRM

The Extract version comes out a little bit darker but everything else is a damned close match I would say

[gestyr]

1. I am in

2. Either


3. Recipe

4. AHS is fine by me

5. I can ship

6. I think May 1 is reachable.