okey dokey......

[krippendroph]

....sorta well got that bad boy all hooked up and runnin but got lots of foam. at first horrible amounts but it went down now, heres the sit the book says to run the keg at 10-12 psi. when we got the tank the guy there said run it at 5psi. when its set to 10 it seems to be gushin out and 3/4 foam when i turn it down to around 5 it does alot better but still seems to be comin out a bit fast but does more of 1/2 foam. now heres the kicker when i do a pitcher pour its great! perfect head and everything but when i do a glass pour it sucks whats the diff? i've checked, rechecked and oh checked about 15x more for leaks and what not cant find any. the beer hose seems good i am sure you guys have heard these questions millions of times i read all the posts i could find on this but nothin really quite gave me an answer thanks for any tips.

[fretlessman71]

Dumb question: Are you opening the tap all the way when you pour? I guess lots of people are only opening it up 1/2 way, thinking they're slowing the beer's descent, when they're only agitating it more...

[HogieWan]

What kind of kegerator do you have? Is there any part of the beer line that could get slightly warmer than the keg?

[krippendroph]

yes i am opening the tap all the way and its a danby 1/2 keg model#dkc645bls the temp is at 38 i checked it with a cup of water and therm the beer line is 5ft and clear and inside the tap tower which is open to the cooler part so it stays cold the whole way up i dont see any co2 in the line i do notice that when i first open the tap it kinda spurts out for half a second then run smooth but still gives foam thanks for the help guys

[krippendroph]

i been doin more research and i think i need a longer beer line.i believe mine is 4 1/2 maybe 5 can i just run out to home depo and grab some 3/16 clear tubing and be done with it? i am thinking of getting 10 feet and working back from there. the reason i think this is because it comes out so fast. thoughts??

[buddha]

That is what i did with the help of the forum. I went to a local distributor and got a chunk of line from them. Costed me 60 cents a foot. So it is cheap and easy fix. With a longer line I was I able to run the pressure need to get a good pour.

[krippendroph]

ya i was following yours hoping to get the answer outta that but you said ur line made diff thats why i just wonderin if i can go grab any old tube at hardware store

[I'mRocketMan]

You'll probably want 3/16" ID beer line for the ~5 ft runs. Much longer runs you'd probably go for the 1/4" or 5/16". The "beer line" has a much heavier wall thickness and is much more flexible in cold temps. You could use the line at HD for CO2, though! I just put together a 6-way manifold so I can Carb my beers in the conditioning fridge using the "braided vinyl" food grade line from Home Depot...

[krippendroph]

well now i am not sure that the beer line is the issue. suddenly my co2 tank is dead. went from 50 this morning to done in just 8 hours nothings changed or moved i wasnt even home! i also noticed that the keg coupler might be the culprit i see little bubbles constantly trickling up the beer line. in less than an hour the beer line was filled with air i pretty sure thats where all my c02 went any thoughts? i'm really grabbing at straws here really apprecate all the help its very frustrating to finally get somethin i been dying for and its being so difficult:mad:

[Jughead]

A leak on the beer side will cause beer to come out, not bubbles in.

Bubbles in the beer line are likely co2 coming out of suspension due to low pressure in the beer line.

If your tank was at 50lb, then it was pretty much empty. co2 will turn liquid somewhere around 800 lbs. The tank gauge will sit around 800 (at least that is where mine sits) until it is almost empty. The remaining co2 will then go back to gasous form and the pressure will plumet.

If you think you have a gas side leak, spray the connections with dish soap and water. Leaks will cause bubbles that are easy to spot.

Cheers

[krippendroph]

is that true for a 5lb tank? it was at 50 when i first hooked it up and i kinda noticed with use it slowly dropped from there. so maybe i didnt even have a fully charged tank to begin with?? grrr man who woulda known this woulda been so much work

[danno]

are you talking high pressure side? if it was only reading 50 psi, you got an empty tank... and it's irellevant of tank size, a 5lb tank will have the same pressure as a 20lb tank at like fill percentages...

I know I've posted this several times, but here's a chart (http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/gasses/co2pv.gif) showing temperature, pressure, and percentage of fill for co2 tanks. if your co2 tank is outside your kegerator, (at, say 70ºF) your high side gauge will read ~850 psi until it gets to 30% fill, where it will then drop. if you keep it in your kegerator (at say 40ºF), it'll read ~550psi until you get to about 15% left...

[buddha]

I am not by my keg right now but If I remember right my 5lb tank reads 500.

Thanks Danno I just read yours and I learned something new.

[krippendroph]

cool thanks guys goin to get that tank deal rectified tomorrow;)

[Beermaker]

check it....

38 degrees, at 10 psi is only 2.38 volumes of CO2. This is ok, unless it is some kind of wild belgian or berliner, then you would need more pressure. My vote is for low pressure, and you had no CO2.

http://www.indata.com/collectionsof...ection/fc0.html

or this http://www.angelfire.com/ks2/beer/homekeg.html scroll down to low pressure.