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Thirdrail
10-29-2005, 12:49 PM
Brewing my second batch sometime today..I went out this morning and picked up an Irish Red extract kit from Kennywood Brewing..Contents as follows:
3.0 lbs. Briess DME - Gold
3.5 lbs. Briess LME - Gold
1.0 lbs. Honey
0.5 lbs. Crystal 10L
0.5 lbs. Crystal 55L
.25 lbs. Roasted Barley
2.0 oz. E.K. Goldings Hops
0.5 oz. E.K. Goldings Hops
Wyeast 1098 British Ale

But the instructions are completly unlike the ones I recieved with my first extract kit.

"Steep grains in 3 quarts of 150 degree water for 30 minutes. Remove grains and sparge with 1 quart of 170 degree water. Stir in extract and honey then bring to a boil. Add first hop addition. Boil for 45 minutes then add second hop addition and Irish Moss. Boil 15 minutes more, cool wort then add to fermenter filled with 3 gallons cold water and top off to 5 gallons. Pitch yeast and aerate well."

As I mentioned this is different then the first batch I brewed. Sound right to you guys?

bruin_ale
10-29-2005, 02:33 PM
Those directions sound ok. If you have the capabilites of a full boil, I'd do that, otherwise make sure that any water you use is clean (either by boiling or buy distilled from the store.

Teej
10-29-2005, 02:56 PM
Sounds good here.

Your first batch was probably just a "get your feet wet", all extract batch, or, at most, they had you put a small bag of grains in the water as you heated it with instructions to "remove it before the water boils".

What you're doing here is an "extract with specialty grains"...or the low end of a "partial mash".

Steeping the grains at 150 allows the release of fermentable sugars. Sparging washes those sugars out so you can use 'em for beer. :)

Enjoy! Looks like a tasty recipe.

Thirdrail
10-29-2005, 06:11 PM
Ok I think I screwed this up!!!!

I spaced out and added the 1/2 ounce of hops after 15 minutes of boil instead of during the last 15 minutes....how bad is this gonna be?

buzcut
10-29-2005, 07:26 PM
sounds like a good batch,

the hops might change the aroma maybe the taste a bit but I wouldnt worry so much, ferment referment sit sit sit

bottle/keg



waiting and more waitng.



drink


see the more you wait the better the beer will taste.. becuse you soo wana taste it


but thats just my plug nickle


buzcut

edit: beer makes spelling ummmm bad

Teej
10-29-2005, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by Thirdrail
Ok I think I screwed this up!!!!

I spaced out and added the 1/2 ounce of hops after 15 minutes of boil instead of during the last 15 minutes....how bad is this gonna be?

R,DW,HAHB.

It's gonna be fine.

You'll have less (almost no?) hop "flavor" and a touch more hop bitterness than you should've. A red isn't counting on hop flavors too much.

Thirdrail
10-29-2005, 08:12 PM
just finished cleaning up....starting gravity came in around 1060....i'm keeping my fingers crossed here....

Otis_The_Drunk
10-29-2005, 10:05 PM
Top o' the evening Thirdrail,
As mentioned before in this thread, your beer will be a little more bitter than you intended, but all will be fine.
Just be patient, Goldings aren't real bitter so I wouldn't think it would unpleasant by any stretch of the means....

Welcome to homebrewing.
Even our mess ups can be fortuitous. ;)

Kyle_Draven
10-30-2005, 11:39 AM
If you are worried about the hop flavor and aroma you could dry hop in your secondary.

Thirdrail
10-30-2005, 10:28 PM
one thing i forgot to mention that i was wondering about....i didn't have another airlock for the fermentor since the one i have that isn't broken is on the carboy with my pilsner.....so this is what i did....i took that airlock and put it on the fermentor and then ran an airline from the bung on the carboy (the one with the pils in it) into a cup of water....will this be ok?

Thirdrail
10-30-2005, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by Kyle_Draven
If you are worried about the hop flavor and aroma you could dry hop in your secondary.
i don't know how to do this yet :(

Teej
10-30-2005, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by Thirdrail
i don't know how to do this yet :(

Either sanitize a hop bag and throw some pellets/whatever form of hops you're using into it, and hang it in your fermenter (not that easy to do with a carboy)...or make "hop tea"...

Hop tea from the website of my LHBS (http://www.frugalhomebrewer.com):

*HOP TEA

Heat 2 cups of water in 2
separate saucepans to near boil.
Add hops to one of them.
Immediately pour into a hop
bag, which is in an empty
bowl. Pick up hop bag and
pour 2nd saucepan of hot water
over bag. Discard hops from
bag and pour tea into fermenter.

Though frankly either adds an element of risk of contamination to what is probably just _fine_ as a beer. Me? I'd leave it as is.

Kyle_Draven
10-31-2005, 08:14 AM
The risk is minimal as long as you have good sanitation there are several styles that depend on dry hopping for their flavor. I agree that the beer should be good as is. I mentioned it so that he would realize that if he wanted he could try it.

Vienna Lager
10-31-2005, 12:40 PM
You can also dump the hop pellets directly into your secondary if you don't want to futz with the hop tea and muslin sock thing. I know a guy who swears by his tecnique of sewing the hops into a nylon bag to from a 'snake' less than an 1" in dia. so that it fits through the mouth of the carboy. Another guy just dumps the pellets in the carboy and when bottling time comes is careful not to disturb the trub.

I have D. Hopped and didn't notice any undue amount of setiment in my finished product. Just didn't disturb the stuff on the bottom when racking.