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champ
10-07-2005, 04:03 PM
ale or lager?

UPDATE - fretlessman set up a poll, check it out - http://www.realbeer.com/discussions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8594
Wilson
10-07-2005, 04:14 PM
Ale.....no wait, Lager! No, Ale......no wait....Lager.....no.....ale! :)
Stefan A
10-07-2005, 04:22 PM
Lager for me.

Stefan
HogieWan
10-07-2005, 04:25 PM
If i could only have one - ale.
fretlessman71
10-07-2005, 04:51 PM
Champ, you ought to make this a true poll - you can edit your original post to do this, I think. Look at the bottom of the message area when you do.

Oh, yeah - ale for me, except in Oktober. :)
CiderJoe
10-07-2005, 04:55 PM
Ale all the way.
MeridianFC
10-07-2005, 05:10 PM
laleger
Jake
10-07-2005, 07:31 PM
ALE! Drinking a Pale Ale now.
chazwicke
10-07-2005, 07:35 PM
Real Ale from the cask (but It is a tough call. These Oktoberfests sure have been enjoyable.)
chazwicke
10-07-2005, 07:35 PM
Champ, are you going to Cap City tomorrow?
wortchillergoal
10-07-2005, 07:59 PM
Asking this kind of question is like putting a swill drinker in a round room and telling him to sit in the corner. All you get is confusion.
BadDogNoBiskit
10-07-2005, 08:11 PM
Ale, Black Ale.
BrewDog
10-07-2005, 09:23 PM
Ale, Pale, that is. Pale gold. Hop tea.....
threecb
10-07-2005, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by champ
ale or lager?

YES!
Grog
10-07-2005, 11:33 PM
Would I cut off my left hand or my right hand? I think I will keep them both.
L.H.H.H.Brown
10-07-2005, 11:37 PM
Ditto. I am partial to ales but I KNOW lagers are awesome, they just take time................. which is why I laugh cuz all my ales last years.:D
zoom6zoom
10-08-2005, 06:26 AM
Geesh... that's one of the questions there's no good answer to, like "are you still beating your wife?"
corysdad
10-08-2005, 06:20 PM
I drink more ales, but I go for great beer no matter which yeast was used.
champ
10-11-2005, 08:55 AM
Interesting - looks like ales edge out lager. I'm an ale man myself, but among my regular drinking crew of 5 or 6 guys, I'm the only one - the others prefer lager.

As for making it a real poll - I would if I could, but I have no idea how...
Kyle_Draven
10-11-2005, 09:08 AM
I vote ale I prefer my beer dark
fretlessman71
10-11-2005, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by champ

As for making it a real poll - I would if I could, but I have no idea how... I've done the best I could for you - I started a new one and provided a link to it from here:

http://www.realbeer.com/discussions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8594
steveh
10-11-2005, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by Kyle_Draven
I vote ale I prefer my beer dark

What does dark have to do with being an ale or lager? Ever have a Munich Dunkel? Or a Spaten Optimator?

S.
fretlessman71
10-11-2005, 09:16 AM
MMMMMMMMMMMMMM.... Optimator..... just had a 500ml bottle the other night; they sell for $1.99 'round here. Wow! :)
Kyle_Draven
10-11-2005, 09:35 AM
No I never have had those. I like my stouts and porters. How are those other beers in comparison? My section of indiana is a little closed minded about beer. They are getting better Krogers has just opened a micro brew section.
fretlessman71
10-11-2005, 09:38 AM
Be prepared for a looooong journey, Kyle! Welcome aboard!
steveh
10-11-2005, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by Kyle_Draven
No I never have had those. I like my stouts and porters. How are those other beers in comparison?

The real answer here is that color has nothing to do with categorizing a beer into al or lager (or stouts or porters, as some categorization trees actually separate them from ales). Each category has a wide range of colors; from very pale to very dark.

More to the question, a Munich Dunkel, or even a Bavarian Schwarzbier, is the mainland European lager cousin to the Porter. Dark in color, medium to heavy bodied, rich in malt flavor - though cleaner of esters and high-temp fermentation biproduct flavors and aromas due to colder ferment and storage.

The Optimator is a Doppelbock and could probably be compared to an Imperial Stout or Strong Ale.

S.
Bloodaxe
10-11-2005, 02:32 PM
Gotta be ale- the darker the better! Just had a few pints of Theakston's Old Peculier last night, wouldn't swop 'em for lager! Followed 'em with a few Snecklifters then a few Directors to finish!
chazwicke
10-11-2005, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by Bloodaxe
Gotta be ale- the darker the better! Just had a few pints of Theakston's Old Peculier last night, wouldn't swop 'em for lager! Followed 'em with a few Snecklifters then a few Directors to finish!

Stop Gloating! Just kidding, Welcome to the board! Were they all on cask?
fretlessman71
10-11-2005, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Bloodaxe
Gotta be ale- the darker the better! Just had a few pints of Theakston's Old Peculier last night, wouldn't swop 'em for lager! Followed 'em with a few Snecklifters then a few Directors to finish! Just to be sure, now... you're not thinking of "lager" the way some Londonites refer to Budweiser (American), are you? Seems like there aren't many UK lagers worth trying, which is odd for a country that gets so cold... but I'm sure it's a traditional sort of thing.

See, I love Old Peculier, but if asked to trade it for a Celebrator Doppelbock, I'd do it in a heartbeat. But that's just me. (Besides, I like the little plastic goat on a string around the bottle - they make great tree ornaments!:D )

Welcome to the board, Bloodaxe!
CiderJoe
10-11-2005, 03:43 PM
Directors, if it's what I'm thinking of, Is really good on cask. I had it at a place in somewhere near Brixton and Denmark Hill once.

I know I voted Ale earlier, and I'm not changing my vote, but Schwarzbier is really nice.

I think I need to take a beer vacation. Well, not a full fledged one, but I'm going to a brewery this weekend. Can't stop me!
chazwicke
10-11-2005, 04:22 PM
I need another beer vacation as well. Anyone want to go to England?
CiderJoe
10-11-2005, 04:41 PM
Love to. But I've already spent my upcoming paycheck on my trip back to DC for Christmas!
HogieWan
10-11-2005, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by chazwicke
I need another beer vacation as well. Anyone want to go to England?

sure!
steveh
10-11-2005, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by L.H.H.H.Brown
Ditto. I am partial to ales but I KNOW lagers are awesome, they just take time................. which is why I laugh cuz all my ales last years.

So does this mean you don't want to trade for some vintage Kulmbacher Eisbock I have stashed? :D

S.
Bloodaxe
10-12-2005, 07:58 AM
Aye, they were all on cask! Quite lucky where I live if you don't want to put up with keg you never have to drink the stuff!
I'm not against all lagers, I quite like the Belgian ones such as Leffe and Grimburgen and in this country Matthew Brown's did a great one called Slalom D- unfortunately they were absorbed by Scottish and Newcastle Breweries and it ceased to exist., along with the brewery. Currently, local micro brewers Wylam does a cask "Czech" Pilsner which is canny but hard to find at times.
Most of the standard lagers are bloody awful, little better than Bud so it's hardly surprising I avoid the stuff when something superior is available. A few more cask lagers would be nice to see plus some of the Continental lagers on draught in England too, the main problem being when you do find them they are usually double the price, which I see no justification for, unless they think all the current lager drinkers will switch to 'em! Ta for the welcome!
chazwicke
10-12-2005, 08:14 AM
I have read with great sadness that Greene King is closing the Old Ridleys brewery and has also bought out Belhaven in Scotland. But I hear they will keep Belhaven open and brewing.
Bloodaxe
10-12-2005, 09:30 AM
I hope Belhaven does OK under it's new owners, I like a pint of 80s and best Bitter. At least Green Kings do cask ale such as Abbot, etc. and don't just view it as an unnecessary anachronism.
chazwicke
10-12-2005, 09:46 AM
I like the Bell Haven Beers and have enjoyed Ridleys beers on cask several times. I think Greene King wanted their pubs. I once visted Greene King in 1989 and had a great tour. I like Abbot Ale on cask very much. I think it is the best beer that GK makes. I hate that they are closing the Ridley plant and I've read that though they will keep some of the Ridleys range of beers, They closed the plant before they could do taste comparisons.