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Moses
06-07-2005, 11:18 AM
Hello,

I just saw your site and thought I'd take the opportunity to shamelessly advertise my site - <link removed due to offence caused to Real Beer members>.

I hope you can stop buy and have a beer with us.

Cheers,

Moses.

steveh
06-07-2005, 12:18 PM
So, honest question here; are you proud of being labeled as "The Drunk?" I think I'd stick with Moses, as blasphemous as that would probably be of me.

I'll admit, I only skimmed your site - but lately we seem to have been attracting a rash of folk who mistakenly think we are all about swilling beer for the express purpose of becoming incoherent. While it can happen to the best of us, it's not really our attraction to the fine drink.

S.

HogieWan
06-07-2005, 12:26 PM
wow

unkle bik
06-07-2005, 01:04 PM
Quality, not quantity.

chazwicke
06-07-2005, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by steveh
So, honest question here; are you proud of being labeled as "The Drunk?" I think I'd stick with Moses, as blasphemous as that would probably be of me.

I'll admit, I only skimmed your site - but lately we seem to have been attracting a rash of folk who mistakenly think we are all about swilling beer for the express purpose of becoming incoherent. While it can happen to the best of us, it's not really our attraction to the fine drink.

S.


Took the words right out of my mouth.

mdblu1
06-07-2005, 09:16 PM
Gee... thats really...nice... I guess...:eek:

newportstorm
06-07-2005, 09:27 PM
Some classy members there. :rolleyes: Thanks for stopping by...

wortchillergoal
06-07-2005, 09:38 PM
Moses, I would say that your site is about as enjoyable as root canal work being done while having a boil lanced.

Grog
06-07-2005, 11:43 PM
ICK!

I must be gettin' old. At one time I would have thought that was kinda funny.

kevin
06-08-2005, 08:17 AM
DRUNK AND STUPID IS NO WAY TO GO THROUGH LIFE SON

http://www.wzzm13.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=40704

unkle bik
06-08-2005, 08:23 AM
Beer pong, and now this.:rolleyes:

Moses
06-08-2005, 01:26 PM
Sorry guys if my site is not to your liking.

I would like to point out that I see a very big difference between drunkeness and alcoholism. I enjoy a beer or single malt whisky as much I'm sure as the esteemed members of realbeer.com, the difference being that when I drink I'll often get drunk, and believe me when I say I have a good time doing so.

While I approve of drunkeness amongst adults there is still a line to be drawn, and if you took the time to look at the site you'd see we have a very negative attitude against Drink Driving, Drink Spiking, and Drunken Brawls/Hooliganism to name a few topics.

Thanks anyway for taking the time to look at TheDrunk.com .

Did somebody say Beer Pong? Sounds kinda like fun!

Seymour
06-08-2005, 01:27 PM
May I make a motion to the moderator that the link to the website be erased? The fact that it's still there may give others the impression that such irresponsible behavior is condoned here. Any seconds?

Moses
06-08-2005, 01:31 PM
Ohhh.. I just did a search on Beer Pong... you guys get nasty when someone doesn't see eye to eye with your point of view.

I'll remove the link from my first post and thank you all for your time (and your hits!)

fretlessman71
06-08-2005, 01:49 PM
Remember that we're here because we like the taste of good beer, and not because we like what it does to us (at least, that's not the point of the website). A few may overindulge from time to time, but that's more of a byproduct of the enjoyment. Most of us have worked very hard to give beer the respect we feel it deserves, and have done our best to attain that same level of respect from others. My guess is that the wine websites aren't getting hit with the drunk/beer pong websites, are they? (If I'm mistaken, I apologize.)

Beer has long suffered under the false notion that its only purpose is to deliver alcohol to one's system. And THIS is the problem I have with the recent posts regarding other sites. To steal a quote from our bretheren over at beeradvocate... "Respect Beer." And that ought to go for alcohol in general, IMHO.

I've said it before, but I feel it bears repeating... if beer could taste this good with no alcohol, I'd probably drink little else. :)

HogieWan
06-08-2005, 03:09 PM
couldn't have said it better myself. well, maybe . . .

brewmonkey
06-08-2005, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by fretlessman71
Remember that we're here because we like the taste of good beer, and not because we like what it does to us (at least, that's not the point of the website). A few may overindulge from time to time, but that's more of a byproduct of the enjoyment. Most of us have worked very hard to give beer the respect we feel it deserves, and have done our best to attain that same level of respect from others. My guess is that the wine websites aren't getting hit with the drunk/beer pong websites, are they? (If I'm mistaken, I apologize.)

Beer has long suffered under the false notion that its only purpose is to deliver alcohol to one's system. And THIS is the problem I have with the recent posts regarding other sites. To steal a quote from our bretheren over at beeradvocate... "Respect Beer." And that ought to go for alcohol in general, IMHO.

I've said it before, but I feel it bears repeating... if beer could taste this good with no alcohol, I'd probably drink little else. :)

And there you have it!

Wilson
06-09-2005, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by fretlessman71
Remember that we're here because we like the taste of good beer, and not because we like what it does to us.

I kinda like what it does to me. I dont think I would enjoy it as much if it didnt make me feel good. That's right, I said it. And I dont think there's much wrong with a person having quality AND quantity.

HogieWan
06-09-2005, 11:26 AM
I think all of us here will agree that we enjoy the effects of alcohol, but it's not our main purpose when having a pint. If it were, we wouldn't be spending the extra money (or effort to homebrew) to get good beer.

I think the quote from BA says it all

Tweek
06-09-2005, 11:36 AM
wow. the guy apologizes and removes his link and you guys still cant let it go. People have diferent opinions. Dont get me wrong Im not an advocate for binge drinking but I also dont want to force my viewpoint on others no matter what the subject.

Moses
06-09-2005, 12:00 PM
Tweek you're right, some people like to ensure everyone knows how self-riteous they are, and will keep repeating themselves and patting their virtual-mates on the back ad-nauseum while crusading their cause across the web

HogieWan thanks for pointing out that this site isn't full of people who take a sip of beer then spit it on the floor to avoid the *scary* side effects that may come, all the while wearing a peg on their nose so as to avoid any fumes and mistakingly intoxicating themselves

Wilson is probably the first honest realbeer member I've come across. I hope you drown cause the alternative is to be burnt at the stake and I wouldn't wish that upon anyone

Kevin, if you're going to automatically associate someone who likes the effects of beer with a 19yr old drink driver then I'm sure you'll have a long and fruitful time flaming the web. As long as it makes you happy mate.

Perhaps I'll be back here when I retire in 30 years or so.. till then ciao.

HogieWan
06-09-2005, 12:31 PM
moses, i think you missed something. This board had a couple of crazies drop by advocating social irresponsibility and then wondering what our problem is - so I think everyone's a little jumpy on new guys who call themselves "the drunk"
I personally wish beer didn't have as much of effect on me as it does. I enjoy drinking beer for its flavor and I do enjoy the effects of the alcohol, but I usually have to stop drinking before I really want to because of the effect of the alcohol. I think the others here can agree with that.
I forget if its this thread or another, but fretless pointed out that most people associate beer with getting drunk and not as a fine beverage to be appreciated (which is what this site is about).

This board likes to say it's a friendly place for people who enjoy beer and I think everyone has lost sight of that with recent events. If you'd like to talk about good beer, please do. I'd like to know what some of your favorite beers are.

fretlessman71
06-09-2005, 02:34 PM
You know, Tweek's on to something. Is there a single one of us who drank beer at first simply for the taste? Not me. I was looking to get trashed, and did on many an occasion. And I'd be a raging hypocrite if I denied it. I may have changed the way I enjoy beer, but if the alcohol wasn't there in the first place, I probably wouldn't have tried it.

Moses, you were kind enough to remove the link, and I appreciate that. But we have had our share of infiltrators recently who think that this is strictly a party site simply because it is about beer. So do forgive us if we're just a little touchy about it.

All I've ever wanted over the past 15 years was for people to give beer the same respect that wine has enjoyed for most of its existence. It's an uphill battle; how many frat boys do you see guzzling from a container of Franzia? And why isn't there "Wine Pong" or "Jager Pong"? (Hmm... that would be a pretty short game, wouldn't it? ;) )

So if I get a little preachy when it comes to my favorite adult beverage, I hope you don't take too much offense, because I ain't changin' my tune. But Moses should be commended - and thanked - for appeasing us. Moses, I hope you return and tell us about your favorite beers.

As for how much one wishes to drink, that's up to the individual - we have differing opinions on that subject. But the one galvanizing idea here is that we all like good beer... and that's what the site is about! Cheers!

HogieWan
06-09-2005, 02:48 PM
Cheers!

Moses
06-09-2005, 04:22 PM
Hi fretlessman71, thanks for explaining that - I didn't realise the history you have here, but can appreciate how annoying newbies who come on and force their opinion on you can be.

Right now I'm drinking a Budvar - I believe this was the original Czech Lager which inspired Budweiser.

Earlier I had a Corona with Lime which is always a nice staple for me, I find it a very easy beer to drink and a great way to push through a hangover.

chazwicke
06-09-2005, 04:29 PM
Budvar is good. here it is called Czechvar.

You are lucky to live in London. I love all the real ale that you have available to you.

HogieWan
06-09-2005, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by chazwicke
Budvar is good. here it is called Czechvar.

I've been want to try that one

Moses
06-09-2005, 04:41 PM
I went to the Real Ale festival two years ago.. tried some fantastic beers that day, though I still prefer Lagers - for me beer should be as cold as possible.

In the pub I worked at in Sydney we even kept the beer glasses in a fridge to stop the beer heating up too quickly..

fretlessman71
06-09-2005, 04:43 PM
Each to his own! Good to see we didn't chase you too far away. :)

chazwicke
06-09-2005, 04:49 PM
Was that the Great British Beer Festival? I was there 2 years ago. I much prefer the real ale to lagers but I do enjoy a lager now and then.

HogieWan
06-09-2005, 04:53 PM
When beer is realy cold, it'll shock your taste buds and you lose a lot of taste perception. That said I've never had a real ale, but I do enjoy ales and I tend to let them warm a bit.

newportstorm
06-09-2005, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by fretlessman71
All I've ever wanted over the past 15 years was for people to give beer the same respect that wine has enjoyed for most of its existence. It's an uphill battle; how many frat boys do you see guzzling from a container of Franzia? And why isn't there "Wine Pong" or "Jager Pong"? (Hmm... that would be a pretty short game, wouldn't it? ;) )



Ever hear of "winos"? There's a reason for that name. Wine in this country hasn't always had the respect it deserves. Sold en masse in jugs or as cheaply as possible for many, many years - Thunderbird, MD 20/20, Boone's Farm, etc. The wine industry simply recognized their lowly perception and put forth a better marketing effort than the beer industry did in the 80's (aside from some craft beer pioneers). The craft beer boom really hit in the 90's, deflated a bit and is rebounding and growing strong again.

And the story behind the rise of Jagermeister's popularity in the US is an interesting one. I think I may have posted it a while back with a story about the man behind Grey Goose. Anyway, long story short, LSU students on spring break were thought to be the first to infuse an aura of "coolness", "hipness", whatever to an otherwise pretty awful tasting drink. Name spreads. Jager is now a party drink. The rest is history.

Cheers!

HogieWan
06-09-2005, 05:19 PM
Most people tend to separate boone's from the term "wine".

As far a Jager is concerned, that's some nasty stuff. I've noticed that a lot of guys will drink nasty shots just because they are nasty. They think it's "manly" to be able to drink that and not puke. I never got into that. When I had shots at the bar, I'd always order a shot of whiskey, usually something decent (but not too expensive). The funny thing is that, while it was a lot easier to keep down than jager or a "3 wise men" (don't get me started on that one), ordering whiskey gained me more respect than the idiots drinking the gross stuff.

wortchillergoal
06-09-2005, 05:57 PM
I feel like I never get into threads like tis on a timely basis so bear with me please.

Moses, I think alot of truth has been spoken/written here. Most of us would be lying if we said we never drank to get drunk. I did at one point in my life. Maturity and life will change that most likely for you. Forgive me the assumption that you are on the younger side but your post about 30 years from now leads me to my conculsion.

My first post, root canal, spoke for me. I had meant to post again saying I wanted to tip my hat to you for the things you don't encourage like underage drinking. You might be surprised that most of us here feel that the drinking age is too high. Yet, when it comes to website, follow the rules of the house. I would not think of going to your board to promote my style of drinking.

As to my enjoyment of beer of beer had changed over the years. I long ago out grew the need to get drunk. Now that I have an autistic child, I don't get to enjoy beer as often as I would like.If drinkt to get drunk suits you, then fine but please be careful. I know people who ended up alcoholics following your train of thought.

As to beer, I am not a big pilsner fan. Yet, one of my hockey teammates who is from Checz Rep bought me a can of Budvar from one of his visits back home. A great beer. Don't be afarid to tyr new styles as you never know what might tickle your fancy.

Moses
06-10-2005, 03:47 PM
I agree that 21 is too high - in Australia and the UK it's 18, the rest of Europe is 15-18.. I think 18's about right, no need to be drunk while still at high school..

fretlessman71
06-11-2005, 05:35 PM
Folks, I think we've got a new permanent member! Welcome, Moses! Hopefully we'll all influence each other to the betterment of all of us. :)

mdblu1
06-12-2005, 12:07 PM
Well put Fret. Welcome Moses!