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grainbrew
01-20-2005, 03:30 PM
Well, I've been using the pink stuff for a while now, and of course it requires rinsing. So I'm thinking of switching to a no rinse sanitser.

Could somebody please explain them and the procedure in using them?

Thanks,

J

dillen
01-20-2005, 03:40 PM
No rinse sanitizer does work, but it leaves a white film on the glass that personally did not look to appealing. so I ended up rinsing them anyway.

BluesHarp
01-20-2005, 08:42 PM
Basically follow the label directions for mixing it up; there are some differences in how much contact time they require to do a thorough job.

They do not need to be rinsed off, but let your equipment drip-dry as much as possible to minimize the amount that gets in your beer (or brewmonkey will yell at you ;) ).

I use it on all my gear, but rinse my bottles off after capping just to get rid of the residue...even though it is harmless, it just doesn't look as nice as a shiny bottle.

danno
01-20-2005, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by dillen
No rinse sanitizer does work, but it leaves a white film on the glass that personally did not look to appealing. so I ended up rinsing them anyway. what kind are you using that leaves a film? there is a BJCP master judge from North Dakota who is also a microbiologist. Her opinion is that if you're going to rinse what you've already sanitized, you might as well just toss in a handful of dirt, since your water supply is nowhere near sanitary...

we've covered this before, basically get some Star-San, or if you're in a semi-rural area and/or have access to a Farm/Fleet type place, Mark 12 is the dairy industry equivalent to Star-San, it's chemically similar, and you get 3x the quantity for the same price.... nice thing about Star-San is the built in measurer, you squeeze the bottle a bit to move up how much you need, then dump it into your water, and stir or shake a little...

unkle bik
01-21-2005, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by dillen
No rinse sanitizer does work, but it leaves a white film on the glass that personally did not look to appealing. so I ended up rinsing them anyway.

Which is the main reason I stopped using "no-rinse" products.

I stuck with a diluted bleach solution (1 tbsp./gal), and haven't had any problems since. (100+ batches)

I have used several "no-rinse" products and have had the same results. Seem to be a waste of money to me.

drp53188
01-22-2005, 03:46 PM
Is mark 12 a brand name , The guy at farm and barn said he never had it ?
Don

brewmonkey
01-22-2005, 08:50 PM
Switch to Five Star's products and you will be MUCH happiers. Star-San is perfect for homebrewers, it is no rinse, has a short contact time and continues to work even after the equipment has dried.

BluesHarp
01-22-2005, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by drp53188
Is mark 12 a brand name , The guy at farm and barn said he never had it ?
Don

It's Mark 10, actually...here is the webpage:



Mark 10 Sanitizer (http://www.stearnspkg.com/htmls/dairy/mark10.htm)

It is no-rinse, designed for milk tanks and dispensing equipment...I will leave it up to the resident experts here whether it is acceptable for brewing equipment.

toneyc
01-23-2005, 07:58 AM
Quaternary ammonia? Glycol ether scent? Would those be safe for homebrewing equipment? I guess that if it thoroughly dried, the ammonia would evaporate, but I dunno about that glycol stuff.

:eek:
Toney.

BluesHarp
01-23-2005, 04:58 PM
I grew up on a dairy farm, we washed all our milking equipment and then sanitized with a similar product. There are a lot of similarities between milking and brewing hardware; lots of stainless steel and hoses...our equipment was never rinsed after running the sanitizer through.

Caffinehog
01-24-2005, 12:18 AM
Speaking from a chemist's point of view, this stuff should be completely harmless in your beer, but your beer may have no head on your beer.
It could also blind you if you spash the undiluted stuff in your eyes.

awilki01
02-10-2005, 07:05 PM
I use Iodopher (BTF).

I love the stuff for sanitizing.

HogieWan
02-11-2005, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by unkle bik
I have used several "no-rinse" products and have had the same results. Seem to be a waste of money to me.

After looking at the prices, I'm sticking to bleach.

fretlessman71
02-11-2005, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by HogieWan
After looking at the prices, I'm sticking to bleach. Rinse good, then. :)

HogieWan
02-11-2005, 01:01 PM
I do. As for worrying about the bacteria in the tap water, I'm sure the water is better now than when people started making beer. I just relax, I don't worry and . . . wait, I'm out of homebrew - $#%&!!!!!!

fretlessman71
02-11-2005, 01:03 PM
I'd boil it anyway if I could. If your water is anything like what we used to get in Gnashville (straight from the muddy Cumberland, and therefore mostly chlorine) I'd be afraid to even bathe in it! :(

HogieWan
02-11-2005, 01:36 PM
I run all my tap water through a filter. I don't like the taste of the water without filtering it so I sure as hell am not going to use it in my beer without a pass through the filter.

BluesHarp
02-11-2005, 09:06 PM
HogieWan is correct...if you wouldn't drink it unfiltered, don't brew with it unfiltered, either.

tmgrood
12-06-2006, 03:34 PM
Does B-T-F need rinsing?
Seems like ya hear two sides to everything in this hobbie.
Kind of confusing for a newbie.