Help!!!! Asap!!!!

[Chefasaurus]

I just kinda sorta got a job working as a brewer's asst., at a local brewhouse, and the brewer wants to see my personal recipes, and if he likes them, we'll make them.


However, 80% of my recipes are dependent on *some* liquid or dried extract, and this is NOT an option here...


SO... what grains do I have to use to make a suitable substitute for Alexander's Pale Malt Extract (liquid... 4# can), or Munton's Extra Light sprayed dried malt extract?


The Alexander's is by far the most common one in my recipes... but a good general idea will help tremendously!

Thank you again!

--Evan

[fretlessman71]

I don't have an answer to your question, but if you're proud of the beer you have brewed, and you have some for him to taste, don't worry about the extract you use. If he's impressed, he'll make the necessary conversions and you'll be off and running. Having said that, I think that ProMash will let you do conversions from extract to all-grain, if I'm not mistaken. Best of luck and congrats on the new gig! I'm actually pretty jealous..... :)

[wild]

Converting All-Grain to Extract and Vice Versa
It is fairly simple to convert recipes from all-grain to extract and vice versa. It is not an exact science for an extract formula but it will put you in the ballpark. Below is a listing of conversions to go both ways.

ALL-GRAIN TO EXTRACT
Lbs. All-Grain Lbs. Of Extract
Amount of pale malt x .8125 = amount of liquid malt extract = Lbs. of liquid malt extract
(example: 8 lbs. pale malt x .8125 = 6.5 lbs. liquid malt extract)
Amount of pale malt x .6875 - amount of dry malt extract (DME) = Lbs. of dry malt extract (DME)
(example: 8 lbs. pale malt x .6875 = 5.5 lbs. dry malt extract)
Amount of wheat malt x .937 = amount of liquid wheat malt extract = Lbs. of liquid wheat malt extract
(example: 6.5 lbs. wheat malt x .937 = 6.1 lbs. liquid malt extract)

EXTRACT TO ALL-GRAIN
Lbs. Of Extract Lbs. All-Grain
Amount of liquid malt extract x 1.23 - amount of pale malt = Lbs. Of all-grain
(example: 6.6 lbs. liquid malt extract x 1.23 = 8.1 lbs. pale malt)
Amount of dry malt extract x 1.45 - amount of pale malt = Lbs. Of all-grain
(example: 5 lbs. dry malt extract x 1.45 = 7.25 lbs. pale malt)
Amount of liquid wheat extract x 1.07 - amount of wheat malt = Lbs. Of all-grain
(example: 6.6 lbs. wheat extract x 1.07 = 7 lbs. wheat malt)

Good luck
Wild

[kevin]

if I find an extract recipe I'd like to try I'd put it into Promash then scale it up to 6 gallons and at 70% eff "my system". Then I note the SRM and SG. Then I remove the extract and pick 2-row or other like grain and keep clicking the +LBS button untill I reach the desired SG, however my SRM is usually lower.

Congrats on the job! That's really COOL :cool:

Funny I had some friends over a couple weeks ago and we were drinking an oatmeal stout I brewed and the one guys goe's I think your'e in kahoots with the brewers at GR Brewery.. He said it tasted just like theirs.

[brewmonkey]

The brewer should be able to help you convert them. I had an assistant who was an all grain guy and we took his recipes and did the same thing. It is nice though that he wants to include your recipes in the lineup! Nothing better in the brewing world then seeing customers at the bar quaffing your brews.

[grainbrew]

brewmonkey,

I have been thinking recently about talking to a brewer at a local brewpub here. I would love to work as a brewer's assistant.

What do you look for in an assistant?

J

[fretlessman71]

I tried to do the same thing here in Ft. C when we had just moved back to town. Everyone wanted a brewing degree... :(

[chazwicke]

I have known many brewers who got their start doing grunt work at the brewery and moving up or just plain volunteering and showing up until their value was seen.

[Stodbrew]

When I needed an assistant, here's what I was looking for. First and foremost, they needed to have a passion for what they were doing. Love of beer, the brewing process, etc. Secondly, I looked for someone who had a least a rudimentary understanding of the brewing process. Preferably some understanding, too, of pressures, pumps and the like. I frankly didn't care if they had a brewing degree or not. And they had to be willing to do a whole bunch of gruntwork. Cleaning kegs, polishing tanks, unloading grain, and other menial chores.

[grainbrew]

Damn it! I have no understanding of pumps.

J

[Stodbrew]

Originally posted by grainbrew
Damn it! I have no understanding of pumps.

J



Yeah, but it's really very easy to learn.

[Tweek]

personally I wouldnt do the conversion. Just explain to him that your experience is based on extract but that you are eager to learn and a quick study.

If you do the conversion you run the risk of him thinking that you know more than you do and then asking you questions based on that presumption that you cant answer. Then you will look worse than if yu show up with your extract recipes.

just my .02

[toneyc]

Heh, pumps are easy! One side sucks and the other side blows! Irs the middle part ya gotta watch out for.

:D
Toney.