Pride and Joy

[steveh]

Has anyone tried Three Floyd's Pride and Joy mild? I tasted a couple pints at a great beer bar in Chicago last night (I'll start a new thread on the place in travel) and it was pretty tasty.

Hop heads will like it - it has a robust hop flavor with just the slightest malt balance to even it out. The body is thin, but it's what you'd expect from a 3.9 ABV ale. Color is golden with a slight red hue (but it was a dark pub). This is a true session beer and I look forward to sampling some more soon.

S.

[BluesHarp]

Hey Steve...how does it compare to an Alpha king?

[steveh]

The Pride and Joy is thinner in body than the Alpha King, and much less hoppy, but still good hop flavor.

S.

[Richard English]

Welton's brewery in Horsham (West Sussex, UK) brew a Pride and Joy. It's a bitter of only 2.7% that drinks like a 3.8%. A wonderful drink for hot weather since you can drink it more or less continuously and not get pickled.

Stronlgy recommended for such events as vintage vehicle rallies where much time will of necessity be spent in the beer tent as it will probably be raining.

[Bruno_78]

Ok, thread ressurection in progress....


I tasted this one for the first time tonight. Steve, Ratebeer.com had it listed at 4.8%. I'm wondering if it's a weight/volume conversion.

Anyway, This is a really good beer, but looking at the BJCP category, it really doesn't fit as a mild.

How does one get so much flavor out of a beer with such a low starting gravity?

[steveh]

Originally posted by Bruno_78
Ratebeer.com had it listed at 4.8%. I'm wondering if it's a weight/volume conversion.

I posted my original notes before Student pointed out the 3Fs lists their beers at ABW (odd for a micro) - and now their web site gives even less info! Wasn't there a percentage on the label?

Anyway, This is a really good beer, but looking at the BJCP category, it really doesn't fit as a mild.

Just because it's so hoppy? Don't forget, you're dealing with 3 Floyds...

How does one get so much flavor out of a beer with such a low starting gravity?

I'll let the experts answer in detail, but it's probably a combination of flavor to fermentable malts, mash temps, and maybe even a low-attenuating yeast.

BTW - this is a great brew in CC form.

S.

[I'mRocketMan]

Originally posted by steveh
[BTW - this is a great brew in CC form.

S.

CC form???

[gallowd7]

I'm headed to Bloomington in a few weeks and will pick up a few to taste. I'm going to make it an exclusive TF trip except when I visit the brewpubs.

[steveh]

Originally posted by I'mRocketMan
CC form???

Cask Conditioned. ;)

S.

[chazwicke]

Originally posted by steveh
BTW - this is a great brew in CC form.

S.

You've had it on cask? Lucky dog! I like this beer and we can get it currently. Three Floyds stuff seems to come in waves here.

I think I like Gumballhead better though.

[Bruno_78]

steve said:

Just because it's so hoppy? Don't forget, you're dealing with 3 Floyds...


Though the malt did come through nicely, I agree that it's a little more hoppy than I expected from the BJCP guide. Color was also a little lighter than expected. Although I didn't realize until yesterday that milds were in the brown category.

I didn't get very many of the malty flavors that are described. It seemed the fruityness was overpowering, but none of the toffee, toasty, roasty flavors described.

And it seemed a bit stronger than I expected.

[chazwicke]

Was your impression favorable? I do like it but again Gumballhead and Dreadnaught are tough acts to follow.

[Bruno_78]

Oh, yes. Very favorable. Just not what I expected.

[steveh]

Originally posted by Bruno_78
Color was also a little lighter than expected.

Milds run a pretty wide color gammut. Notice the guidelines also mention medium amber to light brown (apply your definitions here) - I called it golden with a slight red hue, I guess I can call that amber! ;)

I didn't get very many of the malty flavors that are described. It seemed the fruityness was overpowering, but none of the toffee, toasty, roasty flavors described.

While the fermentation esters are good for an ale, the high-hopped aspect certainly pushes the dimension of the style - especially the original definition of mild as being lightly hopped! If the hops weren't there, the malts might come through a little more - but again, it is the Floyds.

Maybe we can start a new style - sort of opposite of Imperial -- Knave Mild, perhaps? ;-)

And it seemed a bit stronger than I expected.

4.8 is lower than most beers out there, and the ABV range runs to 4.5. And Chaz - it can be found around Chi in CC form once in a while -- but it usually goes fast! Very smooth from the cask, drink it all day!

S.

[chazwicke]

Originally posted by steveh
Milds run a pretty wide color gammut. Notice the guidelines also mention medium amber to light brown (apply your definitions here) - I called it golden with a slight red hue, I guess I can call that amber! ;)

Seems to me I've had even gold colored milds in England.


And Chaz - it can be found around Chi in CC form once in a while -- but it usually goes fast! Very smooth from the cask, drink it all day!

S.

Go ahead! Just rub it in. I think I'd like this very much from the cask.

[steveh]

Originally posted by chazwicke
Go ahead! Just rub it in. I think I'd like this very much from the cask.

You think? ;)

If it makes you feel any better, I usually show up at the local that will have it on the engine and they tell me, "Oh, we just ran out of Pride and Joy yesterday, and the newest cask isn't ready to serve yet."

S.

[Richard English]

Mild is relatively rare in the south of England but Harveys (from Lewes) brew two milds, a light and a dark. The Garland always has both, along with the rest of Harvey's extensive range of excellent ales.

Sadly for the taste-bud deprived, the Landlord refuses to stock A-B Dudweiser.

[chazwicke]

Here is a framed print that I have hanging on my office wall.

[Richard English]

There brewery's changed a bit since those sailing barges plyed their trade, but not as much as some. Deliveries nowadays are by lorry (truck) and there's a wall along the quayside. You can see the way the brewery is now at the Harvey's site http://www.harveys.org.uk/t1200yearsa.htm

All Harvey's beers are excellent and one advantage of my imminent move to Sussex is that I shall be nearer to the Harvey's brewery.