What I am getting in a trade

[wortchillergoal]

Due here Thur is the following:

From Bells
Two Hearted Ale
Best Brown
Oberon

From Founders
Imperial Stout
Centennial IPA
Dirt Bastard

I am looking forward to trying these. I swapped spme Middles Ages products and a couple of my brews.

[steveh]

Mmmm, Oberon.

;)

S.

[newportstorm]

Love the Centennial IPA. Nicely balanced for such a hoppy beer. Very fruity, imo. I have one bottle of the dry-hopped Pale and Dirty Bastard in the fridge, too. Enjoy 'em.

Cheers!

[fretlessman71]

Centennial IPA? Steveh, are you thinking what I'm thinking?

[chazwicke]

Does this fit with you idea on the other thread?

[steveh]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
Centennial IPA? Steveh, are you thinking what I'm thinking?

Uh, I dunno - I doubt it. ;) What are you thinking?

S.

[Stahlsturm]

I wonder if I could ship bottled beer to the USA ?

[steveh]

Originally posted by Stahlsturm
I wonder if I could ship bottled beer to the USA ?

I've "smuggled" beer back in my luggage, but I don't know how wise it would be to try shipping it. I imagine the cost might be outrageous too, in just weight - without the carrier even knowing what was inside the package.

S.

[Stahlsturm]

Originally posted by steveh
I've "smuggled" beer back in my luggage, but I don't know how wise it would be to try shipping it. I imagine the cost might be outrageous too, in just weight - without the carrier even knowing what was inside the package.

S.

Mmmm... I could send a parcel of up to 5 Kilograms for 44 €UR. That´d be 6 or 7 bottles of beer for roughly 53 US$. Pretty stiff indeed.

[chazwicke]

That is stiff. I've smuggled beer back also. Shipping sounds prohibitive.

[Acataleptic]

LOL I too have "smuggled" bottles back into the States. The last trip to London I stocked up on some tasty treats, 22 bottles of various sizes. About 3 gallons total! I boxed up these goodies wrapping dirty clothes around all the bottles to seperate them during the flight. When we came into Customs I itemized everything I bought telling them how much and whatnot. The line was going slow because the officers were opening baggage and basic harrasment tactics (It's there job don'tcha know). By the time we reached the front of the line I was a little worried about being over the limit. The officer looked at our bags and said the typical lines "blaa, blaa, blaa" he didn't even look at our itemized list. He looks down at the box all seriously and he asks "What's in the box?" I tell him beer. Puzzled he asks "What else?" I answer "Just beer I can't get in the States with dirty clothes around the bottles so they don't break." I guess he was a little surprised by this and starts laughing. "Move along! move along." We walked through customs without a hitch.

Of course this was January 2001, I can only guess what Customs is like now. Not that the rules will keep me from trying!

Listening to: AC/DC 1978 Live At Atlantic Studios

[studentofbeer]

on my semi-recent trip back in march, i had no problem bringing back probably 15 or 16 bottles of beer. It weighed a ton, but none broke, and when customs asked what I had in there, I said beer, he chuckled, said 'awesome' or some other superlative, and waived me through. no problems whatsoever.

[fretlessman71]

Originally posted by steveh
Uh, I dunno - I doubt it. ;) What are you thinking?

S. I was thinking that if this beer is bottled, and we end up doing the parallel hop varietal (now using the proper word) tasting I proposed on my AIM thread, that this could be the one to use. Not sure if this would be a better choice than 2hearted, but something to think about...

[steveh]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
I was thinking that if this beer is bottled, and we end up doing the parallel hop varietal (now using the proper word) tasting I proposed on my AIM thread, that this could be the one to use. Not sure if this would be a better choice than 2hearted, but something to think about...

I guess I'm not sure it uses Centennial only. And I'm not sure there are too many beers out there using one hop varital throughout. But, how to find out?

S.

[steveh]

Originally posted by studentofbeer
...I said beer, he chuckled, said 'awesome' or some other superlative, and waived me through. no problems whatsoever...

On one trip to Germany, I was standing in line to have my bags scanned for the trip back home. Back then, Munich would even scan your check-in bags. The line was long and backed up to a stop from the human x-ray scanner - my bag slowly inched into the scanner - and sat there. The somewhat bored Polizei slowly looks over at me, head leaning in his hand and says, "You have 3 bottles of beer in your bag, ja?" I politely answer, "Ja." Trying to look unconcerned... He responds, "Löwenbräu?" I say, "No, Schneiderweisse." He looks mildly pleased and knowingly says, "Ahh, Schneiderweisse." I smile, and advance through the line. I knew I was "in" at that point, and having the good taste to have the Schneider over the Löwen has to have saved me from detainment! ;)

S.

[newportstorm]

Originally posted by steveh
I guess I'm not sure it uses Centennial only. And I'm not sure there are too many beers out there using one hop varital throughout. But, how to find out?

S.

Give 'em a buzz. Most brewers love to talk shop (provided they're not going nuts in the brewhouse at the time). Esp. if you tell them the reason for asking - bet they'd think it's very interesting.

http://www.foundersbrewing.com/

And I know Magic Hat HiPA uses only Warrior hops this year (last year I believe it was purely Columbus):

http://www.magichat.net/elixirs/hipa.php

Cheers!

[chazwicke]

I've brought beer every time I go abroad. Never had a problem with customs. Only had problems with a leaky growler from the Orange brewpub in London and a few times bottles have seeped slightly if I ship them with luggage rather than carry on. Due to pressure I guess.

[wortchillergoal]

The package arrived today with bottles intact. After opening the box and fishing out Bell's Two Hearted Ale, I put it in the refrig post haste.

I enjoyed this beer. The hop nose and flavor called to me to take another sip like a foreward in front of the net, back to me with legs wide apart beckons to have me try and break his cup with my stick.

I would have liked a little more malt feel to it, but it was not lacking.

I would seek this beer out again even if it meant a two minute trip to the sin bin.

I am looking forward to trying the others.

[Jeff]

Originally posted by steveh
The somewhat bored Polizei slowly looks over at me, head leaning in his hand and says, "You have 3 bottles of beer in your bag, ja?" I politely answer, "Ja." Trying to look unconcerned... He responds, "Löwenbräu?" I say, "No, Schneiderweisse." He looks mildly pleased and knowingly says, "Ahh, Schneiderweisse." I smile, and advance through the line. I knew I was "in" at that point, and having the good taste to have the Schneider over the Löwen has to have saved me from detainment! ;)

S.

I couldn't help but get a picture of Colonel Klink when I read this. Sorry, not trying to offend any of our German residents.

[chazwicke]

I know nnnnooooottttttthhhhhhiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnggggggg!

[Beaver]

Originally posted by wortchillergoal
The package arrived today with bottles intact. After opening the box and fishing out Bell's Two Hearted Ale, I put it in the refrig post haste.

I enjoyed this beer. The hop nose and flavor called to me to take another sip like a foreward in front of the net, back to me with legs wide apart beckons to have me try and break his cup with my stick.

I would have liked a little more malt feel to it, but it was not lacking.

I would seek this beer out again even if it meant a two minute trip to the sin bin.

I am looking forward to trying the others.

LOL! Best review ever! :D

[Stodbrew]

Originally posted by chazwicke
I know nnnnooooottttttthhhhhhiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnggggggg!



Classic, Chaz!!!

[Bruno_78]

Who's Colonel Klink ? And why is he so uninformed ?

[fretlessman71]

OOOOOoooooooo...... PLEASE tell me you're kidding.... :D

You're going to make ME feel old! Hogan's Heroes! Never saw it?

[Stahlsturm]

Originally posted by steveh
I knew I was "in" at that point, and having the good taste to have the Schneider over the Löwen has to have saved me from detainment! ;)

Not detainment but it certainly saved you from ridicule, hehehe.

[Stahlsturm]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
OOOOOoooooooo...... PLEASE tell me you're kidding.... :D

You're going to make ME feel old! Hogan's Heroes! Never saw it?

I don´t think I´ve ever seen Hogan´s Heroes in english. They dub everything over here which is why a steady stream of DVDs is making it´s way to my place.
Anyways, in the german version Colonel (= Oberst) Klink sounds like a prussian officer while his helper, the fat Sergant who´s name escapes me right now sounds like a bavarian and acts like one too for the most part.

[fretlessman71]

Are you from the states, stahlsturm? Or is your english just that good?

[Stahlsturm]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
Are you from the states, stahlsturm? Or is your english just that good? I´m just good, hehehe. I´m born in Regensburg / Bavaria and have always lived here. I´ve learned english since grade 5 (as every german kid) and kept practicing after I got out of school. My wife is native in Providence RI, that´s why I´m particularly interested in New England and Rhode Island beers.

[fretlessman71]

And where you get so much practice as well, I'm sure! My mom is 100% german, but I confess I don't understand more than about 10 words. My wife's mom is from Central America, so I get more spanish practice. My mom's maiden name is Herzer - you know, I never asked what that meant...

[fretlessman71]

.....and you know something else? She doesn't like beer at all!

I think they might revoke her ancestry if they found out... don't tell anyone over there, ok? :D

[Stahlsturm]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
And where you get so much practice as well, I'm sure! My mom is 100% german, but I confess I don't understand more than about 10 words. My wife's mom is from Central America, so I get more spanish practice. My mom's maiden name is Herzer - you know, I never asked what that meant...

Actually my wife (who lives in Germany since 2001) speaks pretty decent german by now. And understands everything as long as the accent isn´t too thick. For her german it´s actually a bad thing that my english is so good, if we´d speak more german it´d be better for her. But alas... :-)

I know enough spanish, french, italian and dutch to survive there but I wouldn´t claim any actual language skills that go beyond reading a menue or very basic things like that. Living in Europe where driving 200 miles straight brings you to another country (and sometimes you crossed a third on the way) will do that to you, hehehe.

"Herzer" sounds german actually. "Herz" means "heart" and "herzen" is an old word to describe the kind of hugging that would go on between a grandmother and her newborn grand daughter.

[steveh]

Originally posted by chazwicke
I know nnnnooooottttttthhhhhhiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnggggggg!

Uh, that was Schultz - not Klink.

And Jeff - this customs agent was no inept, caricature of a policeman. Most of the time he was talking to me he was looking at me sideways, from the corner of his eye. Reserved, yet ready to jump! And when a man of authority, with a snappy green uniform and HK-P7 on his hip thinks your choice of beer is tops, you feel a little relieved - maybe even vindicated! ;)

S.

[steveh]

Originally posted by Stahlsturm
Not detainment but it certainly saved you from ridicule, hehehe.

He he he he! Most certainly!

S.

[chazwicke]

Originally posted by steveh
Uh, that was Schultz - not Klink.



I know. I know. (Even though Schultz knew nothing). But I do not think we want to delve into HH too deeply or the inevitable questions about Bob Crane will come up.

[chazwicke]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
And where you get so much practice as well, I'm sure! My mom is 100% german, but I confess I don't understand more than about 10 words. My wife's mom is from Central America, so I get more spanish practice. My mom's maiden name is Herzer - you know, I never asked what that meant...


My wonderful mother in law is from Germany (Berlin) but is an American citizen and has been here since the late 50s. She worked for the German TV network ZDF for most of her career as a film editor here in the DC area. My wife speaks fluent German (and her French is pretty decent too.) I only know a little bit.

[Jeff]

Originally posted by steveh
Uh, that was Schultz - not Klink.

And Jeff - this customs agent was no inept, caricature of a policeman. Most of the time he was talking to me he was looking at me sideways, from the corner of his eye. Reserved, yet ready to jump! And when a man of authority, with a snappy green uniform and HK-P7 on his hip thinks your choice of beer is tops, you feel a little relieved - maybe even vindicated! ;)

S.

I kind of figured. Although I have never been to Europe, I remember many people telling me how intimidating seeing guards with automatic weapons were (pre 9/11). I must also admit that I have never seen Hogan's Heroes. My entire knowledge of the show comes from the Simpsons which has mentioned it several times ( I had to stick of for Bruno, since he is my age and hasn't seen it either).

[chazwicke]

Originally posted by steveh
Uh, that was Schultz - not Klink.

S.


Here is Klink: HHHHHOOOOOOGGGGGGGGAAAAAANNNNNNN!!!!




Werner Klemporer was terrific. John Banner was great too.

[wortchillergoal]

I had the Oberon tonight. It was a anice wheat but not a beer that jumped out and grabed me. It was like a guy with a big wind up for a slapshot. The puck hits me and I think, did someone just hit me with a paperwad.

It was an easy drinking beer. I was getting a citrus taste on the back side of it. I did ;like the fact that it was unfiltered. My wife who is not a big wheat fan said that she could drink it.

Not worth a trip to the sin bin but i think it would be a good after the final horn beer.

[studentofbeer]

interesting thoughts on the oberon. two years ago i remember loving it. buying it at the beginning of this summer it was just ok. by that time i had gotten heavily into hefeweizens and this seemed a little to "American"-- too sweet and citrusy maybe. It's still a fine beer, but I've tempered my enthusiasm for it.

[wortchillergoal]

Originally posted by studentofbeer
interesting thoughts on the oberon. two years ago i remember loving it. buying it at the beginning of this summer it was just ok. by that time i had gotten heavily into hefeweizens and this seemed a little to "American"-- too sweet and citrusy maybe. It's still a fine beer, but I've tempered my enthusiasm for it.

I glad to see that the citrus is there and not caused by too many pucks to the head.

Speaking of head, I believe you hit that old nail. I would say it is a fine beer but like you find it too American, not that there is anything wrong with that.

[wortchillergoal]

I had the Bell's Best Brown tonight. It had a nice chocolate malt hint to it. Once again, I would not say this is as good as the Two Hearted Ale. My wife thought that it had more alcohol than other browns.

To see how I feel about this brown see the following.

Moose Drool=NHL

Brooklyn Brown=AHL

Bells Best Brown=ECHL

[fretlessman71]

Hmmm... maybe I just don't like brown ales. I tried the Moose Drool and found it to be average; OTOH, I can't say that I've found a brown ale that I really enjoyed. Maybe I'll have to give them another shot... I can get them now in Cheyenne, so we'll see. Can you get this stuff in NY?

[Beaver]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
Hmmm... maybe I just don't like brown ales. I tried the Moose Drool and found it to be average; OTOH, I can't say that I've found a brown ale that I really enjoyed. Maybe I'll have to give them another shot... I can get them now in Cheyenne, so we'll see. Can you get this stuff in NY?

Have you tried Avery's Ellie's Brown Ale? I like that one a lot.

[fretlessman71]

I did... and it was decent, but something's wrong about brown ales to me. I've considered trying nothing but browns for a week or so to see if I can get the flavor in my brain. There's something about the roasted quality that just rubs me the wrong way, I guess. Is that something that you would consider to be an essential element of the flavor of a true brown?

[chazwicke]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
Hmmm... maybe I just don't like brown ales. I tried the Moose Drool and found it to be average; OTOH, I can't say that I've found a brown ale that I really enjoyed. Maybe I'll have to give them another shot..

Got to England and try some of the cask brown milds. You may change your mind.

:D

[fretlessman71]

Originally posted by chazwicke
Got to England and try some of the cask brown milds. You may change your mind.

I'll be looking for those tickets in the mail, chaz! :D

[chazwicke]

Seriously though, The brown milds are amoung my favorite cask ales. Well, cask milds in general.

[fretlessman71]

Seriously, though, I'd believe you if I got to go there! Maybe in a year or two....

Just checking out the fff website - I gotta say... it's really disappointing. Great graphics; nothing there to see really. I am interested in trying Robert the Bruce and Pride and Joy, though - they sound really nice. Never had a mild; like the idea of it, though. Robert the Bruce sounds like 90 Shilling to me!

[chazwicke]

I have a couple bottles of Robert the Bruce but I have yet to try it. I LOVE the Gumballhead and really like the Alpha King and Dreadnaught

[Beaver]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
I did... and it was decent, but something's wrong about brown ales to me. I've considered trying nothing but browns for a week or so to see if I can get the flavor in my brain. There's something about the roasted quality that just rubs me the wrong way, I guess. Is that something that you would consider to be an essential element of the flavor of a true brown?

I like the roasted browns that balance with some bitterness. As with all styles, there are many different interpretations. :)

[Beaver]

I need to try some 3 Floyd's sometime! Robert the Bruce, Dreadnaught, Alpha King, and most the others all sound like very fine beers!

[fretlessman71]

Maybe I'll split my bomber of Alpha Klaus with you some evening - I've heard nothing but raves about it!

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/rate_results/26/7438/

[wortchillergoal]

I had the Centennial IPA today. This beer's hoppiness is not for the weak or faint of heart.

It had a great hop nose and the flavor struck my tastebuds like a good slapshot of the helmet( which most goalies like once in awhile). I had not had a good hoppy beeer in sometime. I really enjoyed this.

The malt character was just enough for some filling mouthfeel and to suggest it's sweetness through the boat load of hops.

Fret, as to brown ales. I believe we all have a style that we would rather not drink. For me it is pilsners. Don't jump on me lager people. It is just that style of lager. I do admire the fact that you keep trying them. I did too and found Czechvar which I would drink again no problems. I hope you find your Holy Grail of a brown ale.

[fretlessman71]

So should I bite the bullet and get another 6er of Moose Drool? Maybe the stuff I had was old or something...

[wortchillergoal]

I am drinking Founder's Dirty Bastard this evening.

The beer poured a nice dark color. It has a good malt nose followed by a sip that reveals a nice malty sweetness with a meduim body. The taste is as good as stopping a youg hotshot skater on a break away.

I have not been one for Scot Ales but have recently had a couple including this one that are changing my mind.

[wortchillergoal]

My last beer of the trade, Founder's Imperial Stout.

Poured out of the bottle about the same color as Hersey's syrup. There was very little head. The nose was that of malt sweetness that was delievered to the tastebuds. A nice roasted chocolate taste fills the mouth. This is a nice Imperial Stout, but I prefer the Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout. The Brooklyn has a softer finish. The Founder's showed a little more hop flavor on the backside than I remember of the Brooklyn. I do believe that the hop character of the Brooklyn seems to vary a little from year to year. I find both to be high on my list of beers to drink.

Not to forget my other analogies for this group of beers, here is this one's. Founders Imperial Stout's sweet taste reminds me of a shutout. It dosen't come aong often, but very nice when it does.