Hops are part of the beer buzz

[Cory]

Since hops provides bitterness as well as a portion of the "beer buzz", has anyone done research to find out which varieties of hops would contribute most to the high? What chemicals are in hops that provide the buzz? I am sure that the big boys have done their homework on the subject. What varieties are used by the big three brewers in the US? I have not tried it but I have heard of sleeping on a pillow filled with hops. It is supposed to offer a better quality of rest. Also I think marijuana and hops are related.

[MARK123]

The best "beer buz" hops I have used are columbian red, afganistan mild buds, and california sins. And I'm guessing when you say BIG 3 you mean sierra, pyramid and stone!!!!

[steveh]

Huh? I've never heard of hops adding any fermentables to a brew, or any independent buzz of their own. Something I missed?

S.

Mark, I'm sure Cory means Sierra, Three Floyds, and Dogfish Head! ;)

[brewmonkey]

Hops and Cannabis are indeed cousins but nothing in the hops is going to give you a buzz, at least nothing that I have ever heard of.

As far as sleeping on a pillow of hops. I too have heard that it will help you rest better.

Here is one that will blow you mind, hops contain estrogen! Read Stephen Buhners book Sacred and Herbal Healing Beers.

[threecb]

Originally posted by steveh
Mark, I'm sure Cory means Sierra, Three Floyds, and Dogfish Head!

Way to be PC on the matter, steve! Representing the West, Midwest and East!:D

[steveh]

Originally posted by threecb
Way to be PC on the matter, steve! Representing the West, Midwest and East!

Heh, heh, heh - that really didn't dawn on me until after I wrote it! They were the first that came to mind when thinking about good beer from old stand-bys and newer up-and-comers -- and no, I didn't forget Capital, I've just decided to stop telling you guys about them because I want to hog all their beer for myself! ;)

S.

[DreamWeaver]

Originally posted by Cory
Since hops provides bitterness as well as a portion of the "beer buzz", has anyone done research to find out which varieties of hops would contribute most to the high? What chemicals are in hops that provide the buzz? I am sure that the big boys have done their homework on the subject. What varieties are used by the big three brewers in the US? I have not tried it but I have heard of sleeping on a pillow filled with hops. It is supposed to offer a better quality of rest. Also I think marijuana and hops are related.

I've read that cannibis & hops are related. I've often wondered if the drug sniffing dogs ever got confused during shipping. I don't think they impart a buzz though. I did read they once thought hops may contribute to male impotance.

I wrote this once before but here it is again... Once I received my UPS shipment and was at the kitchen bar with a fresh pint, looking over the bags of (opened) hops, gypsum, & Irish Moss that I had jut received. When in walks the wife & before I could even suspect what she assumed, she stormed out of the kitchen mumbling her disapproval to put it mildly. She knows (or so I thought) that I'm not into that so my sick sense of humor got me into deeper do-do before showing her the labels on he bags.

[HarkJohnny]

actually as a Cory is a junior member I would think his "big three" are Budwater, Miller and Coors.

and if you want hoppy... don't forget Anderson Valley's Hop Ottin IPA... AWESOME!

[chazwicke]

Henry VIII reportedly slept on a hop pillow and hop tea supposedly has mild sedative effects. I was unaware of it adding to any buzz though. I have heard that hops, cannabis and grapes are all related. I've been growing hops in my yard now for the better part of a decade and it is always funny when I show a visitor my hop plants and they ask "Is that legal?"

[steveh]

Originally posted by chazwicke
Henry VIII reportedly slept on a hop pillow and hop tea supposedly has mild sedative effects.

Sedative, or just relaxing? I've heard of the hop bag under the pillow, but I also heard it was because the aroma of fresh hops had a relaxing, calming effect.

I think sedative, I think Scopolamine!

always funny when I show a visitor my hop plants and they ask "Is that legal?"

He he he - do you just say, "Sshhhhh..."? ;)

S.

[Caffinehog]

Hops and marijuana both contain THC... but there is a right handed version and a left handed version. Hops have one, weed has the other. The one in hops does not get you high.
I'm not sure what does get you high in hops, but I guarantee hops alone will make you feel... good. Relaxed, tired... I enjoy an alcohol buzz far more when accompanied by hops, so I rarely drink anything but beer.

I have tried the hop pillow. I dream much more, my dreams are more vivid, and I seem to get more rest from the same amount of sleep. Sometimes, I even know I'm dreaming.
It also works just fine to leave an open bag of hops by your pillow. If you have any leftover hops, give it a try.

[BluesHarp]

Originally posted by steveh

Mark, I'm sure Cory means Sierra, Three Floyds, and Dogfish Head! ;)

Hops??

I would have to say Stone, Three Floyds, and Dogfish Head...try a Double Bastard on for size!

BTW...many herbal sleep aids contain hops, so they must have some relaxing properties.

[lordkenpo]

http://www.holistic-online.com/Remedies/Sleep/sleep_insomnia_herbs.htm

Just to throw in some info that I thought would have been mentioned by now: hops have been known to have a narcoleptic effect. That is, if you know people with sleep problems that advocate drinking a beer or 3 to knock themselves out, this is why. Aside from the knock-out qualities inherent in all alcohol, I suppose. One of my roomates has mild insomnia, so any time we go out I insist that he drink Sierra. And besides, it would pain me to see him swilling Bud Light or Coors.

Speaking of which, I broke down last night and had my first Bud Light (and for that matter, anything sub-Yuengling) in what must have been over a year. They even had Widmer's on tap, but it wasn't part of the "free drink" special. Damn marketing ploys. I'm crying inside. :(

[chazwicke]

lordkenpo, lordkenpo, lordkenpo, ......What can we say? I think I would rather not have had any beer.

[lordkenpo]

I know it's an unforgivable offense, but I at least tried to save some face by switching to Widmer's after the special ended. You know, it's funny though, even though it is Hefe and therefore "exotic" and "classy," Widmer's is nothing to write home about. Before I had "real" Hefe, I thought Widmer's was great, and then my roomate brewed one that blew Widmer's out of the water. I just tried Paulaner for the first time a week ago, and I was disappointed - mainly because it was exactly (and I mean EXACTLY) like my roomate's brew. I paid $9 for a six pack that I could have brewed for $3.75.

Ahh, still so young and naive...and poor...

And now it seems I've led this thread astray. Speaking of hops, anyone tried a Dogfish Head's 120 Minute? The 90 Minute is delicious, I'm just waiting for a special occasion to pop the 120.

[davesarman]

Have never heard of a hop pillow before. Sounds interesting, I might have to try and find one. My wife and I stayed at a B&B a few years back that had a barley pillow. I had to try it, just for the sake of what it was filled with. Basically it was like a bean bag. Didn't do anything for me. Was supposed to be good for the neck positioning, etc.

[chazwicke]

I've never been a fan of Widmer. But I prefer the Bavarian style hefes and it is the northern style. And serving it with a lemon just kind of rubs me wrong anyway.

[Steve16823]

lordkenpo, lordkenpo, lordkenpo, ......What can we say? I think I would rather not have had any beer.

Weren't you paying attention, Chaz? He said he had a bud light. That's not beer, is it?


Originally posted by lordkenpo
I'm just waiting for a special occasion to pop the 120.

Special Occasion?!? Why, Don't you realize that today is the ONLY friday, this week?

[lordkenpo]

I've never been a fan of Widmer. But I prefer the Bavarian style hefes and it is the northern style.

Oh, Great Purveyor of Beer-Wisdom, grant me the knowledge with which I might further diminish my income and my tendencies toward swill-relapses.

And serving it with a lemon just kind of rubs me wrong anyway.

As they say, make lemonade, not Hefe-nade.

And yeah, while today is the only Friday this week, I may have to pick up another bottle and hold off until my best bud and I go tux shopping for his wedding. Kind of a Best Man's unspoken request for a bridesmaid hookup, yes?

[chazwicke]

Give her some 120 and she'll be putty in your hands. It is pretty high alcohol. And not for the timid.

[fretlessman71]

Yeah... if the aroma doesn't knock her out or make her retch first! (You know how girlygirls can be..... )

[Caffinehog]

Originally posted by Steve16823
Weren't you paying attention, Chaz? He said he had a bud light. That's not beer, is it?




Special Occasion?!? Why, Don't you realize that today is the ONLY friday, this week?

And tomorrow is a blue moon! That only happens once in... well... a blue moon!

[steveh]

Originally posted by Caffinehog
And tomorrow is a blue moon! That only happens once in... well... a blue moon!

Are you suggesting a Coors product for the occassion?! ;)

S.

[fretlessman71]

Originally posted by steveh
Are you suggesting a Coors product for the occassion?! ;)

S.
Well, sure... that's about as often as I'd want to drink a Coors!

[hopjack13]

okay im late again, they moved my damn office so i don't spend much time here any more.
afa hops getting you high? im with steveh i didn't think that they had any fermentables (sp?)
but i got an idea :rolleyes: im gunna go buy some hops, find a pot-head, tell him to smoke it and lets see if he gets high of falls asleep...he he he

[aspiditesramsay]

Lupulin is the primary ingredient of hops that provides the Buzz,
and yes hops are a member of the Cannabis family. Dogfish Head? hell I make a double Ipa that is 144 IBU's9.8 percent!
And by the big three he means Pizza Port, Oggis and Russian River with Drakes thrown in for good measure and Bear Republic and 21 st amendment for good measure. lol

[aspiditesramsay]

p.s. not a capitol fan.

[brewmonkey]

Originally posted by aspiditesramsay
Lupulin is the primary ingredient of hops that provides the Buzz,
and yes hops are a member of the Cannabis family. Dogfish Head? hell I make a double Ipa that is 144 IBU's9.8 percent!
And by the big three he means Pizza Port, Oggis and Russian River with Drakes thrown in for good measure and Bear Republic and 21 st amendment for good measure. lol

Thanks for playing, I already pointed out the cannibis relation. Who do you brew for and what method did you use to calculate your IBU's at 144?

[steveh]

Originally posted by aspiditesramsay
p.s. not a capitol fan.

CapitOL or CapitAl? The Capital Brewing I speak of is from Madison, WI and makes some of the best micro lagers available. There is also the Capitol City Brewing mini-chain of brew-pubs, and various beers with a "Capitol" moniker.

I can understand that if you're looking for nothing but hop bite, Capital's lagers might not be your cup'a tea. But if you're also after some kick, they have a great Blonde and Dark Doppelbock, as well as a wonderful Weizendoppelbock. If they don't float your boat, all the more for me! ;)

S.

[aspiditesramsay]

Kelley Bros brewing co. the IBU's were were actually tested by University of California at Davis in the Brew lab. And yes I do not like either Capital brewing very malt astringent.

[brewmonkey]

Originally posted by aspiditesramsay
Kelley Bros brewing co. the IBU's were were actually tested by University of California at Davis in the Brew lab. And yes I do not like either Capital brewing very malt astringent.

You're just a hop skip and a jump from Stod then.

[Stodbrew]

Originally posted by brewmonkey
You're just a hop skip and a jump from Stod then.


Yep, Manteca's only a couple hours from my brewery. I've been in Kelley Bros. a couple times. It's on the way to my wife's mom's house in Oakdale. Been a couple of years, though.

[steveh]

Originally posted by aspiditesramsay
And yes I do not like either Capital brewing very malt astringent.

Sounds like you're getting old beer - it's the only time I've tasted astringency in a Capital beer.

S.