View Full Version : No more Ladie's Nights in NJ
chazwicke
06-02-2004, 02:21 PM
Here is another pilferred post. I hate to copy someone elses writings again but it is succinctly put.
Ladies, it looks like the party's over.
> A senior New Jersey civil-rights official yesterday issued a ruling
> concluding that "ladies' nights" are unlawfully discriminatory.
> The administrative order, a response to a complaint against a Cherry Hill bar
> and restaurant, carries the force of a Superior Court decision and applies
> statewide.
> "The decision makes it pretty clear that this bodes trouble for bars that
> have ladies' nights and similar programs in New Jersey," said J. Frank
> Vespa-Papaleo, director of the state Division on Civil Rights, who wrote the 13-page
> order.
> "It will have important widespread implications for bars," he said in an
> interview. A final hearing to determine formal rules is yet to be scheduled.
> This is beyond silly.
>
> Don'tcha just hate it when political correctness trumps fun and common
> sense??? I wish these holier-than-thou-we-know-what's-better-for-you-than-you-do
> nitwits would shut the Hell up and give the rest of the human race a break.
Stodbrew
06-02-2004, 02:22 PM
Look like someone in New Jersey has way too much time on their hands.
Caffinehog
06-02-2004, 11:35 PM
Yeah... but how come they never have guy's night, where we get cheap beer simply for being male?
fretlessman71
06-03-2004, 12:22 AM
Because we don't have boobs to show off when we get drunk. Isn't it obvious? :p
chazwicke
06-03-2004, 09:34 AM
Fret, you are a very wise and sagatious man.
wortchillergoal
06-03-2004, 09:42 AM
Very good point fret, love it.
davesarman
06-03-2004, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by fretlessman71
Because we don't have boobs to show off when we get drunk. Isn't it obvious?
Well, some guys do, but nobody wants to see that! ;)
wortchillergoal
06-03-2004, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by davesarman
Well, some guys do, but nobody wants to see that! ;)
Thanks, just what I wanted a picture of in my mind today.
brewmonkey
06-03-2004, 10:13 AM
My state has a similar law. There is no happy hour, all drinks must be priced the same all day long. There cannot be a discount for gender, you can't have a special where by you get a discount for volume purchase (like $3 a piece or 5 for $12). The state ABC is tough too, they inspect often and hard. You also cannot advertise prices on radio, so you here a lot of bars offering drinks for 1 dead president.
skahtboi
06-03-2004, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by brewmonkey
You also cannot advertise prices on radio, so you here a lot of bars offering drinks for 1 dead president.
ANY dead president? So...I can offer up an FDR and have myself a beer?
fretlessman71
06-03-2004, 12:43 PM
Hey... Lincoln's a dead president, isn't he? Isn't he on the penny? Where do I go for these one cent beers? Do they have Sierra Nevada on tap? ;)
wortchillergoal
06-03-2004, 12:52 PM
There was a bar here in Syr. that served discounted drinks until the first toilet flush as their special night. It was not a place of good beer so I never experienced it. Given the customer base it had, I am glad.
chazwicke
06-03-2004, 01:03 PM
That first flush reminds me of how I have never ever visited London with out being in constant pain. I guess when you drink an imperial pint at every corner pub you have to constantly go and go. It sometimes is even hard to just walk to the next pub! On every visit it seems I am constantly looking for the next convenient place to go and then when i do I promptly have another pint. Beer has that one bad effect. Maybe I need to drink more coffee instead. :D
chazwicke
06-03-2004, 01:17 PM
This just in via email from Dave Alexander or RFD and Brickskeller fame:
Hey all
Dave Alexander of D.A.'s Regional Food and Drink and the Brickskeller here.
About 18 or 20 years ago I tried to do a beer club at the Brickskeller. We
wanted to reward faithful customers with things like a mug after drinking a
certain number of beers and other prizes leading up to a logo'ed flight jacket for
anyone drinking 500 different beers. We even went so far as to having an ad
agency print up four color tri-fold brochures publicizing it, but when we spoke
with ABC people we were told it couldn't happen, no how, no way. they told us
DC bars can't offer two for one drink specials, can't offer gifts for
drinking certain numbers of drinks and can't offer price based incentives like
"ladies nights" or "half price martini night" According to DC law (as far as I know
still unchanged to this day) any promotion of this type is considered an
"inducement to drink" and is against DC law. If I recall correctly, they seemed to
be particularly interested in printed specials although I doubt non-printed
specials would be very successful. I pointed out the Brickskeller was one of the
very few bars in the city that didn't offer any of those types of specials,
because hey - *Every hour is happy hour at the Brickskeller! * and if this was
true then virtually every bar in the city was in violation of the law. The ABC
guys agreed, virtually every bar in the city was in fact in violation but
while the laws were on the books, they weren't enforced so no big deal. I thought
it might not big a big deal until a huge developer wanted the land your
restaurant was on, then it might become a very big deal very fast, but now there is
a prohibitionist movement worth paying attention to.
The smoking ban in Montgomery County has devastated bar owners there, if you
don't believe it look at all the restaurant auctions happening. It would be
devastating to those in DC as well. Enforcing inducement to drink violations
fits right in with prohibitionist goals as well. Perhaps the politically correct
in DC will soon become passionately motivated to lobby for government
crackdowns on businesses guilty of practicing the horrendous sexual discrimination of
ladies night. Don't be surprised if it happens here too.
Hey man, it's your world, I just live in it.
Cheerios to all
hopjack13
06-03-2004, 07:42 PM
when i lived in vegas they had ladies night, a clever move i thought. if you can get the women here the men will follow. now that im married im all for it , i can just send my wife to get the drinks ;)
im not sure if they have them here in cali, i've not been to a night club out here in quite sometime.
although when a full moon falls on a friday night i'm tempted to go hang out at one of the clubs parking lots at 2am and watch all the fist fights, live entertainment for free! one night i saw 2 catfights and three boxing matches. once this gangbanger was starting $h!t with this little twerp he started swinging wildly and missed most of the time, then the twerp came back with a right hook and knocked his ass out! it was funny as hell! then security beat the $h!t out of the twerp. people get stupid when they're drink and it's always worse on a full moon.
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