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S.F.B.
04-15-2003, 03:18 PM
...it is expected of people new to these forums to do an intro but here goes.

My name is Mike and I am a beer addict. I brew my own, mostly. Been doing that for the last 2-3 years. My faves are IPA, Stout, Porter and Pilsners. I generally have 20 - 30 gallons around in various stages.
I live in Oregon. I have a great wife who supports my beer and brewing addiction. Mainly because she drinks the better part of it. Also, I have 2 children who are very handy around the house. Especially my son. He can poor a pint as beautifully as any pub worker that I have seen. My daughter is learning this from him and is pretty good at it, also.
Looking forward to talking beer and brewing and getting some ideas and insight to make my brewing better.

batkins
04-15-2003, 03:27 PM
Welcome,
You'll find the people here have some great opinions on beer and can be lots of help, too!
What part of Oregon? I'm in Vancouver, Washington.
Have fun and enjoy.
Cheers,
Bill

toneyc
04-15-2003, 05:36 PM
My name is Toney and I, too, am a beer addict. I've been brewing my own beer for almost 2 years. My wife used complain bitterly about how much I spent on beer, now she helps me pick out recipes. She doesn't drink beer, in fact the only time I have ever seen her drink a whole glass of beer, it was one I made! She loves my mead, though. I like stouts and porters and bocks and IPAs. My kids don't like beer but I have to keep them out of the mead, too. This has been a wonderful hobby for me and I've really enjoyed reading this board.

Oh, I'm near Austin, Texas.

:) Toney.

S.F.B.
04-15-2003, 07:57 PM
I am in Hillsboro, batkins. Just west of Portland.

mountain beer
04-15-2003, 09:49 PM
I'm over in Reading PA. I started Home Brewing when my wife told me I needed a Hobby. Little did she (or Me) know. I started to home brew and could not wate to go back to th brew store for more supplies. This sight has helped me in my home brewing. My favorite beer to make would be a English Brown Ale.

Happy Brewing
Mountain.

asciibaron
04-15-2003, 09:50 PM
since we are intro'ing...


i'm steve and i too love beer. i have the liquid grain storage unit to prove it. i just started home brewing and think it is a nice hobby. it can be as challenging as i want it to be.

i'm in the baltimore, md area of the US of A. i have a >2 yr old son and my wife does not drink beer. i get to drink my creations all by myself. i have 20 more years until my son can legally drink, so i'm set for a few years at least

-steve

batkins
04-17-2003, 01:48 PM
S.F.B.,
Are you going to the Spring Beer Fest this weekend? I have to work all weekend, but I'm gonna try and hit it early Friday.

Richard English
04-17-2003, 02:33 PM
Will be at the Great British Beer Festival, 05 to 09 August 2003.

This year they expect to have around 450 UK beers on draught, plus at least as many again (bottled and draught) from overseas.
UK Bottled beers will also be available.

For a list of the beers represented in 2002, go to
http://www.camra.org.uk/SHWebClass.ASP?WCI=ShowDoc&DocID=2037

With air fares as low as they've ever been, make your booking now!

paul84043
04-17-2003, 02:38 PM
My name is Paul, obviously....

I live in the holier than thou land of Utah, a small town south of salt lake called Lehi to be exact. They don't sell alcohol on Sundays here and even if you could buy it, the alcohol content is so low it's not even worth drinking....

I started brewing several months ago, though I have been familiar with the process for a long time. I just got a wild hair one day and went for it.
My wife likes beer as much as I do so I have to keep a pretty decent supply going all the time.
Our home brewed beer so far has turned out far better than we had hoped, it's a great obsession and very rewarding.

Due to my religious beliefs, I only drink beer that has been brewed with water as a main ingredient, and restrict my drinking only to days that end in the letter "y". I know that sounds extreme, but it keeps me on the correct path towards enlightenment....

I have a fairly decent beer stein collection and I really like the whole culture of beer.

This board has been a ton of fun and a great source of info, I really enjoy posting here.
One of these days I will get brave enough to try partial grain brewing.

S.F.B.
04-17-2003, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by batkins
S.F.B.,
Are you going to the Spring Beer Fest this weekend? I have to work all weekend, but I'm gonna try and hit it early Friday.

No.:( Sadly, I work Friday through Mondays. I am going to try to make it to the summer one. Hopefully I will be in town.

batkins
04-17-2003, 03:14 PM
Damn, I thought I was the only one that worked nothing but weekends. I do my full 40 hours between 11pm friday and 7am monday. I'm gonna be there for a beer or two early though!

S.F.B.
04-17-2003, 03:29 PM
Yep! Friday thru Monday from September to June. Then I go to just Sat. & Sun. while the kids are on summer break. Guess I should have mentioned I am only a part time working stiff.:D I get around 25-30 hours in.

BluesHarp
04-18-2003, 08:55 PM
I'll play...I'm Mark, and I'm also a beer addict. I brew beer, mostly porters, stouts, and barley wines. I like really hoppy tasting beers, and just haven't been able to duplicate that FRESH hop flavor at home (yet).

I spend most of my free time listening to, or playing the blues, and drinking beer.

I hope to get some mead going in the next year, nectar of the gods!!! Wisconsin has a good meadery - White Winter Winery, in Iron River.

This is a cool board, hopefully it will continue to grow.

hnrblbrbrn
04-21-2003, 09:00 AM
Hey,I'm Steve. I've been brewing with extracts for about two years. I got my beer kit as a father's day present. when I feel a little more competent I'll move up.
I'm partial to porters and stouts. Even tho I'm in a college town, I've found a liquor store that does have a variety of beer, that are not the beer du jour.

CaptHook
04-21-2003, 10:51 AM
Sounds like I'm the old man of the mountain! My kids are 38 and 42 and 43. My wife likes my beer but sticks with the hard stuff. Been brewing about 3 years, doing all grain about 6 mos. Alot more variables to deal with. The best beers I've made so far are from dry malt. Very easy to be consistant. I'm not an addict, I only have 5 - 8 pints a day. This is a great board, learn something new every day.

P.S. Haven't meet a beer I didn't like.
Chuck Northern IL.

threecb
04-21-2003, 12:43 PM
The Beer Facts:
Name - Steve
Age - Mid 30's
Location - Central NJ
Favorite Style - IPA (love them hops!)
Homebrewer? - I have in the past, but circumstances (particularly residence) has made it less convenient to do currently. I hope to get back into it someday...
Comments - I've only recently signed up on this board and am enjoying it. Lots of info and cool to read different opinions about the topics. I also know that when I start brewing again, this is the place to come to for help!

steveh
04-21-2003, 01:56 PM
Guess I'll add to the growing club of Steves -
Name - Steve (duh)
Age - Early 40s
Location - Northern Illinois, where you at Chuck? Member of any beer or home-brew clubs in the area?
Fave style - Probably have to go with Oktoberfest if pressed. But I enjoy a lot of styles.
Homebrewer? - Similar to Steve/threecb, I was hot and heavy into it in the past, but the job and other constraints tend to get in the way. I got a friend interested in it and I help him with some of the dirty work once in a while. We just bottled a Maibock that we hope to be nearly as good as Kirby Nelson's Capital Maibock.
Comments - This forum is terrific. Nice talking turkey about a mutual favorite subject. It always makes me appreciate that first after-work beer too!

CaptHook
04-21-2003, 02:14 PM
Location - Northern Illinois, where you at Chuck? Member of any beer or home-brew clubs in the area?
Living in West Dundee. I joined Club Wort but have not been to active.

b3s
04-21-2003, 02:52 PM
well, they call me....bruce. beer junkie forever (although there was a 15-year hiatus with total abstension...i don't recommend it at all), but i just started brewing my own. my favorites are ales...especially IPAs and Dry Stouts...and the correctly mixed black-n-tan (not those all-in-one-container abominations...i mean real black-n-tans...i used to mix this with guinness and bass, but lately it's been guinness and my own pale). By far my favorite beer is guinness stout (draught form only).

it's not that i'm addicted to beer...it's that i have found that my body requires those 5+ pints...i suppose many take vitamins or something, i take beer ;)

Originally posted by paul84043
Due to my religious beliefs, I only drink beer that has been brewed with water as a main ingredient, and restrict my drinking only to days that end in the letter "y". I know that sounds extreme, but it keeps me on the correct path towards enlightenment....

hmmm. sounds like an offshoot of my religon. i only drink beer brewed with grains and only on days with vowels in them.

paul84043
04-21-2003, 04:20 PM
Do I hear an Amen? I think so....



I am by no means a junkie, I can quit any time I want....:D

I just don't want to.

There are no clubs around here, this forum is actually the closest I can get.

I would like to try a "real" black and Tan, any suggestions in addition to those in the previous post?
The kit that I buy is a damn good beer by whatever name you wish to call it. It would be very interesting to have something to compare it to.

I just brewed an Irish stout last night, (hoo baby did it smell strong!) though it will most likely be bottled. (Is the difference really that profound?) I don't have the means to keg yet. Maybe this would be a good reason to start? I could pick up a party pig kit pretty cheap just to get the feel of things.

My wife is beginning to get twitchy, she likes beer, but she has her limits....the equipment is multiplying at a geometric rate...

b3s
04-21-2003, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by paul84043
I would like to try a "real" black and Tan, any suggestions in addition to those in the previous post?

heh...i've been drinking b&t's for quite some time, so i get a little snobby sometime.

what you want is a pale ale and a dry stout (preferably guinness or something like it). guinness is actually a very light beer, so what you want to do is float the stout on your pale.

pour a 1/2 glass of pale with glass at an angle. the idea is to minimize the head, because the next step is gonna take care of that for ya.

next, pour the stout over the back of a spoon and into the same glass. the stout should "float" on top of the pale. the spoon thing is also for minimizing head...you'll still have one, though.

i often use bass & guinness, but in the end it's a pale ale you want. some people use harp (but that's a lager), but i tend to stick to pales like: bass, fuller's esb, full sail pale, sierra nevada pale, and my own home brew...but i almost always use guinness...like i said, i cannot wait until my own stout is done, i'm hoping it floats well!


I just brewed an Irish stout last night, (hoo baby did it smell strong!) though it will most likely be bottled. (Is the difference really that profound?) I don't have the means to keg yet. Maybe this would be a good reason to start? I could pick up a party pig kit pretty cheap just to get the feel of things.


i just brewed a stout on saturday. not sure about the kegging...i tend to make my b&t's from bottles as i have no draft system either...

however, my tap-a-draft ($50 USD tapping system using PET bottles and 8g CO2 cartridges) will be here tomorrow. 2/3 of my currently fermenting pale and 2/3 of my currently fermenting stout will go in those babies :)

S.F.B.
04-21-2003, 06:02 PM
I've got an IPA and stout in the fridge. Maybe I'l try to pour a black and tan tonight. Haven't had one in a loooooong time. I can turn the CO2 down on the kegs to pour slow. Yes. I think I will do that.

steveh
04-21-2003, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by CaptHook Living in West Dundee. I joined Club Wort but have not been to active.

I'm in Gurnee and belong (have belonged for quite some time now) to the Kenosha, WI homebrew club, the Bidal Society.

I was just in West Dundee a few weeks back - visited Emmett's Brewpub - pretty nice, good food, good beer - if not a bit hoity-toity for a brewpub! However, the bartender was friendly and they didn't throw my friend or me out for being in jeans! ;)

Steve

steveh
04-21-2003, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by b3s next, pour the stout over the back of a spoon and into the same glass. the stout should "float" on top of the pale. the spoon thing is also for minimizing head...you'll still have one, though.

i often use bass & guinness, but in the end it's a pale ale you want. some people use harp (but that's a lager), > snip <

Don't try to use a stout that isn't nitrogenated (such as Guinness Extra Stout in the bottle), the nitrogen is what helps the stout float on the other beer.

BTW - Stout on Harp is a Half n' Half (arf n' arf in the proper vernacular). I've heard it's not a good idea to order a Black n' Tan in Dublin - you're bound to get a nice history lesson on the "Troubles." On my way back from the last trip over to the ol' sod I stopped at the pub in the airport for a pint while awaiting my flight. An obviously Yankee couple stepped up and ordered two Black n' Tans - and got no lecture. However, they *did* get Black n' Tans and were a little confused - seems they wanted Harp, not the English ale (wasn't Bass, but can't recall the brand) they received. The publican was nonplussed and obliged them with new drinks - being within a foot of the whole transaction, I explained that what they really wanted to order was a Half n' Half, not a Black n' Tan - they'd never heard the term. Hmm.

S.

CaptHook
04-21-2003, 07:04 PM
Steve you were one block from my house at Emmett's.
Those folks are too into profit to relaxe.

steveh
04-21-2003, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by S.F.B.
I've got an IPA and stout in the fridge. Maybe I'l try to pour a black and tan tonight. Haven't had one in a loooooong time. I can turn the CO2 down on the kegs to pour slow. Yes. I think I will do that.

Let us know if that works, but I'd bet that you won't get a good float, even with the CO2 turned down.

S.

steveh
04-21-2003, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by CaptHook
Steve you were one block from my house at Emmett's.
Those folks are too into profit to relaxe.

Hah! You'd think they could get that from the fancy food on the menu! A few years ago I met the Emmet's brewmaster (might not be the same any more) at a beer fest - he had a nice IPA and was very friendly. I held up my promise to visit the pub. As I said, the bartender was pretty friendly and talkative.

Oh, and the cask conditioned ale had been emptied the Friday before and nothing new was on yet. :(

BTW - nice town, West Dundee, have to get out there again.

S.

CaptHook
04-21-2003, 07:18 PM
BTW - nice town, West Dundee, have to get out there again.

S. [/B][/QUOTE]
Let me know when, if I'm in town we can get together.

b3s
04-21-2003, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by steveh
Don't try to use a stout that isn't nitrogenated (such as Guinness Extra Stout in the bottle), the nitrogen is what helps the stout float on the other beer.


ahhhhh...thanks for the tip :)


BTW - Stout on Harp is a Half n' Half (arf n' arf in the proper vernacular).


sorry i forgot to mention that! i just have a preference to ales only, so i always forget to mention the arfnarf. i like the tart mixture of an ale with the stout. especially that last last bit of pale only in the bottom...in fact, i especially like a really hoppy ale in mine.

but yeah, don't be ordering a black-n-tan in eire.

fuji6100
04-22-2003, 12:40 AM
Keeping with the introductions,

My name is Jason, I live in Georgia and I've been homebrewing for about 5 months. I'm new to this forum and love the abundance of knowledge and experience I've drawn on already.

Georgia is also one of those states where max alcohol content is resitricted, though we currently have legislature in the works to repeal that (crosses fingers)

I'm also a Black and Tan fan, usually Guiness over Bass in the pub. At home I tend to gravitate towards nut browns, irish reds, stouts and the occational honey wheat.

I've got a mild wheat that just matured this week and ready for drinking, and a hoppy irish red in the primary fermenter now.

Looking forward to chatting with all of you.

steveh
04-22-2003, 06:58 AM
Originally posted by CaptHook
Let me know when, if I'm in town we can get together. [/B]

I'll let you know - if this weather ever breaks and I can get the rag-top out, it would be a nice ride.

S.

steveh
04-22-2003, 07:03 AM
Originally posted by b3s
sorry i forgot to mention that! i just have a preference to ales only, so i always forget to mention the arfnarf. i like the tart mixture of an ale with the stout. especially that last last bit of pale only in the bottom...in fact, i especially like a really hoppy ale in mine.

The B&Ts and H&Hs are the adult versions of some sort of childrens' multi-flavored popsicle. I remember the first time I saw one I was just intrigued with the physics of the float, but the mix of one flavor to the next (be it stout to pale ale or lager) is definitely the prize!

S.

S.F.B.
04-22-2003, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by steveh
Let us know if that works, but I'd bet that you won't get a good float, even with the CO2 turned down.

S.

I tried 3 times. The last attempt was almost successful. I got the stout to float long enough to show the wife and then it fell. It tasted pretty darn good too! Oh well. I will try to get to the store and pick up some Guiness and try it with that.

hnrblbrbrn
04-22-2003, 01:39 PM
Has anyone tried Guinness and cider? I saw it somewhere as a snakebite if I remember correctly.

hopjack13
04-22-2003, 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by steveh
Don't try to use a stout that isn't nitrogenated (such as Guinness Extra Stout in the bottle), the nitrogen is what helps the stout float on the other beer.

they're making bottles with the widget in them now, i just had a some b&t's with my wife a few weeks ago . she's nursing our new born and i told her the only beer she could drink was guiness (because of the high iron content) she's not a beer beer drinker but she likes one every once in a while so i made her a black n tan ,they floated quite nicely. interesting though i had no idea the nitrogen in the widget was what did the trick.

b3s
04-22-2003, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by hopjack13

they're making bottles with the widget in them now, i just had a some b&t's with my wife a few weeks ago . she's nursing our new born and i told her the only beer she could drink was guiness (because of the high iron content) she's not a beer beer drinker but she likes one every once in a while so i made her a black n tan ,they floated quite nicely. interesting though i had no idea the nitrogen in the widget was what did the trick.

the rocket bottle is guinness draught in the bottle same as the draft and the can, except you don't need to pour it, but i've never had much success with the draught bottles (taste terrible to me).

steveh was referring to guinness extra stout (http://www.guinness.com/guinness/en_US/knowing/products/extraStout/0,7514,12687267_125716,00.html) in the bottle, which was originally brewed for export to overseas markets such as Africa, it featured higher alcohol and carbonation levels as well as a more "hoppy" flavor to help the product survive long sea journeys.

and yeah, i keep forgetting it's the nitrogen. guess maybe i will get those NO tubes for my tap-a-draft and see if that does the trick...for some reason i doubt it, tho :(

mmmBeer...
04-22-2003, 02:55 PM
Hi, my name is Sean, and I just joined the group! I love beer, and making it. I live in Ottawa Canada.

I homebrewed for about 5 years with a group of friends, but then ran out of time and forgot about the hobby. Just recently started up again with 5 gallons of brown ale and 5 gallons of an IPA that has been in the bottle about 2 weeks. I also have a California steam lager and a copy of Creemore springs lager in secondary.

I too haven’t met a beer I didn’t like!

hopjack13
04-22-2003, 02:56 PM
i guess i could introduce myself here too (no one's above common courtesy) hi hows everyone doing? my name is scott im from southern california born and raised, im 28 . i first started drinking beer at the age of.........well never mind that i started drinking real beer in 1996 but didn't become a 100% convert untill a few years ago. i love beer and i love people and i love people that love beer. this place has been a great source of info for me and im even trying new and wonderful beers out there that i didn't know were out there before(thanx 2 all of you) however last night i dropped a fullers 1845 (recommended by richard english and a very good b.c.a.) well i just bowed my head and said a little beer drinkers preyer (you may or may not of heard) that i'd like to share.

Our lager,
Which art in barrels,
Hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk,
It will be drunk
At home as it is in the pub. Give us this day our foamy head,
And forgive us our spillages,
As we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration,
But deliver us from hangovers. For thine is The ale,
The pilsner and The lager....., whatever.
Barmen.

Bacchus
04-22-2003, 04:09 PM
About the Snakebite! As far as I know a Snakebite normally is a lager or something similar mixed with cider. If you mix Guinness with cider or any other kind of stout for that matter you get a Black Velvet! At least that´s the way I learnt it, but I could be wrong...

And I wouldn´t mind a little hint, what´s the easiest beer to brew if I want to do it myself...been reading this forum for quite some time now and I´m itching to give it a try...preferably start with some kind of kit...?

paul84043
04-22-2003, 04:24 PM
Yes a kit is the ideal starting point.
Depends on what you like, Ales are very easy, lagers require special temp regulation.
Wheat beers are pretty simple as well.

My first was an Amber ale, but I really didn't know what I liked. I'm still experimenting and have not found one that I don't like yet. The opitions are endless.

Do you have equipment?

For cost versus what will serve you well down the road, Glass carboys are the way to go. Primary in a 6.5 gallon, secondary in a 5 gallon. (With handles!!)
Plastic buckets work and work well, but you will move past them pretty quick.

Total cash outlay should not exceed 200 to 250$, and depending on where you shop, you may do much better than that. I had to buy a 30 Qt stainless cooking pot and a burner, so that tacked on an extra 100$ but it was well worth it.

Any questions, just fire away, we'll be more than happy to inundate you with more info than you ever wanted!!

Bacchus
04-22-2003, 04:30 PM
Awesome!!!! Thanks for the info, I especially like the fact that a wheat might not be too hard...
I think I´ll hit one of the local brewery stores, get an idea of what they have and say and whenever I get stuck, I know where to turn...
So far I don´t have anything else then the brilliant idea that I want to do my own beer! Good start isn´t it?
Wish me luck!

beer editor
04-22-2003, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by Bacchus
And I wouldn´t mind a little hint, what´s the easiest beer to brew if I want to do it myself...been reading this forum for quite some time now and I´m itching to give it a try...preferably start with some kind of kit...?

Locating a local homebrew club is a great way to start. Since you are in Boulder, you might contact the Association of Brewers/American Homebrewers Association. They will be doing a little brewing at their offices (in Boulder) as part of Big Brew on May 3.

Prosit,
Stan

Bacchus
04-22-2003, 04:40 PM
Found their homepage...great reading, thanks!

b3s
04-22-2003, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by Bacchus
And I wouldn´t mind a little hint, what´s the easiest beer to brew if I want to do it myself...been reading this forum for quite some time now and I´m itching to give it a try...preferably start with some kind of kit...?

ales are probably the easiest and fastest. john palmer's online book how to brew (http://www.howtobrew.com) walks you through it (no kit involved)...6 pounds of dry malt extract, some hops, and a packet of yeast. the first chapter doesn't give you whys or wherefores, just what you gotta do. my first brew (which i am almost done drinking) was his first timers recipe and is one of the best ales i've ever had. turned out quite well.

as your in boulder (my neck of the woods) you might want to stop by the brew hut in aurora, they'll set you up with a decent brewer kit and the ingredients. decent folks there.

it appears the in our area the most active homebrew club i could find (have not attended yet, too busy) is colorado brewmasters (http://www.coloradobrewmasters.com)

hth.

b3s
04-22-2003, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by Bacchus
About the Snakebite! As far as I know a Snakebite normally is a lager or something similar mixed with cider. If you mix Guinness with cider or any other kind of stout for that matter you get a Black Velvet! At least that´s the way I learnt it, but I could be wrong...

from the guinness faq (http://www.ivo.se/guinness):

Guinness (or some other stout) mixed with another lighter coloured beer such as a pale ale or lager. There is now a separate section of this FAQ on Black & Tans. Guinness and Champagne in equal proportions (MJBC p 176) is called a Black Velvet. A poor-man's Black Velvet is Guinness and cider. There are several variations involving black current cordial or cassis. Cordial will sweeten a Guinness, and if poured in through the head, leaves a purple "splotch" in the head. A Purple Meany is half Guinness, half bitter (the dregs of the cask if possible) and cordial.


don't forget -- 3 pints of vitamin g keeps the doctor away ;)

Bacchus
04-22-2003, 05:43 PM
Even more thanks, feels like I´m halfway there now! Can´t wait until I taste my first own beer, and probably neither can my roommate!!

Hm...somebody actually once gave me some Guinness with some green curacao or grenadine or something else green (yuck!)....I do prefer my Guinness straight or with cider....although champagne being one of my other loves in life...hm....have to try that!

b3s
04-22-2003, 06:20 PM
sure, and don't be forgetting to write your name in the head of your next guinness...should be there all the way down :)

Bacchus
04-22-2003, 06:24 PM
Never heard of that before....only got mine served with a shamrock on top...!!! Off to the pub!

S.F.B.
04-22-2003, 07:18 PM
All this talk about black velvet and snake bites is kind of putting me off. I really don't take to the thought of mixing anything with my beer. Might be a bit closed minded but I think beer should stand on its own. I do, occasionally, precede it with a sip of bourbon. That is as close to mixing as I care to get.

hopjack13
04-22-2003, 08:39 PM
amen to that!a black n' tan is as close as i ever got...... well there was this once someone slipped me a bud by mistake and i had to chase it with some scotch:eek:

steveh
04-23-2003, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by b3s
steveh was referring to guinness extra stout (http://www.guinness.com/guinness/en_US/knowing/products/extraStout/0,7514,12687267_125716,00.html) in the bottle, which was originally brewed for export to overseas markets such as Africa, it featured higher alcohol and carbonation levels as well as a more "hoppy" flavor to help the product survive long sea journeys.

and yeah, i keep forgetting it's the nitrogen. guess maybe i will get those NO tubes for my tap-a-draft and see if that does the trick...for some reason i doubt it, tho

Thanks B-3, it is the Extra I was talking about. AFA the Draught Guinness in the bottle, I've never had the courage to drink straight from neck - I always pour it into a pint.

A home-brewing friend of mine got ahold of a nitro/CO2 mix system of the sort used in pubs and hooked his oatmeal stout up to it - dee-lish!

To Hopjack - the famed iron in Guinness Stout was a bi-product of the water used from Dublin's River Liffey. Since Guinness has its water pumped in from the Wicklow Mountains now (IIRC), the iron content of the stout is less significant than it used to be - but don't tell that to your wife! ;)

S.

steveh
04-23-2003, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by b3s
from the guinness faq (http://www.ivo.se/guinness):

don't forget -- 3 pints of vitamin g keeps the doctor away ;)

Hmm - Interesting FAQs on the Guinness and others mixes. I've never heard of a mild and bitter being considered a half and half. I wonder what the benefit would be, a slightly stronger mild? A slightly milder bitter? Seems sort of odd.

AFA a B&T being either or Guinness and Harp, Guinness and Bass (or suitable substitute) I wonder why the publican I saw immediately utilized the English ale when a B&T was requested?

Maybe the Irish, as are we Yanks, are just growing apathetic to their history. For those not familiar with the original definition of the Black & Tans, rent the movie Michael Collins for some light history - or pick up a book on the Irish Revolution if you're into that sort of read.

S.

hnrblbrbrn
04-23-2003, 08:26 AM
Originally posted by b3s
sure, and don't be forgetting to write your name in the head of your next guinness...should be there all the way down :)

Not to be confused with writing your name in the snow post consumption.

If I can to the local race shop can I run NOS instead of NO to my beer engine?

Couldn't help bein' a smarta**

steveh
04-23-2003, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by hnrblbrbrn
If I can to the local race shop can I run NOS instead of NO to my beer engine?

Couldn't help bein' a smarta**

You can, but it voids any warranty you have left on the engine! ;)

S.

BluesHarp
05-02-2003, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by Bacchus

And I wouldn´t mind a little hint, what´s the easiest beer to brew if I want to do it myself...been reading this forum for quite some time now and I´m itching to give it a try...preferably start with some kind of kit...?

The most forgiving beer to brew is a darker ale, especially a porter, and when in doubt...brew some stout! The lighter a beer is, the more delicate the balance of hops and malt becomes, and as others have mentioned, lagers are tricky because of the lower fermentation temperatures.

I've brewed beers with whatever I happened to have lying around, and they turned out great!

Make sure you sanitize everything properly...and most important: Relax and have fun!!

Please post again when you begin your journey!!