Victory Hopdevil

[steveh]

I.P.A. - Victory Brewing Co., Downington, PA 6.7 ABV 12 oz. bottle

This ale poured a deep gold to near amber color with a thick, lively, white to cream colored head. The head dropped slowly to a rolling, meringue-like cap, leaving much lace on the glass in its wake.

Fruity, grapefruit, Cascade hop nose. Piney Chinooks come through with warming, along with slight diacetyl.

Fruity, hop dominant initial flavors with caramel/toffee flavors following in a neat balance (that's "neat," as in orderly - not as in neato). Mellow Chinook hops in the finish.

Sweet and smooth mouth-feel, medium bodied.

A true hop-lover's beer - if you are a hop-head, seek this one out. It's well-balanced and smooth - nothing harsh. The flavor is reminiscent of SN Celebration, yet not as potent - I enjoyed a second in the same evening.

S.

[Payson]

I had the pleasure of trying this hoppy delight a few weeks ago. In fact, I'm currently toying with brewing a clone. Right now It's a toss-up between it and a Duvel clone. Might just have to do both and save myself the bother of such a difficult decision!

[davesarman]

Had one this weekend myself. I also liked the citrusy notes of the Cascade and earthiness of the Chinook hops. A great IPA. Not over the top, and not Imperial, but defininetly well made!

[steveh]

Originally posted by davesarman A great IPA. Not over the top, and not Imperial, but defininetly well made!

My thoughts exactly!

S.

[chazwicke]

Whenever this option comes up, It is an easy choice. Victory is another fine brewery. The founders learned their trade at Old Dominion so they were well trained.

[Tweek]

This is probabally going to be percieved the same way as my arrogant bastard as a session beer was but I didnt think the hopdevil was all that hoppy. I thought it was a fine beer, just didnt have enough hops to warrant the name.

[threecb]

It's all about great balance with this IPA, I think. It's one of my favorites -- I usually have a couple in the fridge at any given time.

Victory's Prima Pils is another great session beer by these guys.

[Beaver]

I'm really looking forward to trying this! I'm getting some from a trade as well as their Old Horizontal and Storm King.

[steveh]

Originally posted by Tweek
This is probabally going to be percieved the same way as my arrogant bastard as a session beer was but I didnt think the hopdevil was all that hoppy. I thought it was a fine beer, just didnt have enough hops to warrant the name.

You, my friend, have become desensitized! This is one hoppy beer!

Maybe the good balance between hops and malts throws you off some, but this is damned hoppy!

S.

[Tweek]

Originally posted by steveh
You, my friend, have become desensitized! This is one hoppy beer!

Maybe the good balance between hops and malts throws you off some, but this is damned hoppy!

S.

Yes, it is hoppy, but hardly a devil. When I think of something that I would coin a hopdevil, I think of hop driven, something like Anderson Valleys hop ottin ipa. That is worthy of the devil title.

Its really a symantics thing I suppose.

[steveh]

Originally posted by Tweek
Yes, it is hoppy, but hardly a devil.

I'd call the Hopdevil just as hoppy as 3-F Alpha King.

To me, the Hopdevil keeps the promise of its name without overkill, and their balance between both hop varietels (sp?) and the malt is outstanding.

S.

What was that Pils you sent me Chaz? The one with a hop-suggestive name? I was afraid that was going to be an overly-hoppy Pils, but it was pretty mellow.

[Tweek]

havent had the pleasure of anything that 3 floyds has made so I can tcomment on it. Have you had the hop ottin ipa?

[threecb]

steveh,
I think the one Chaz sent you was the Tupper's Hop Pocket Pils...

[steveh]

Originally posted by threecb
...the Tupper's Hop Pocket Pils...

Yeah! That's the one.

Tweek - I've had some of the Anderson Valley brews in the past...but I can't recall if I've had the Hop Ottin. Is it an old standby of theirs, or fairly new? I'll have to see if I can find some.

S.

[studentofbeer]

id definitely recommend seeking out the hop ottin, although its definitely NOT what id consider balanced. some may want to call it hop juice, but it's really good hop juice. thats a nice summer day beer or to go with really spicy foods. crisp and bittah!

[Beaver]

I've had the Hop Ottin on tap and it wasn't remarkably bitter. I think beers are normally mellower on tap though.

[hops99]

What makes HopDevil such a great beer to me, and as others have pointed out, is its balance. I find too many IPA's these days that are stupid-hopped with no malt balance. Hops are like breasts to me, the bigger the better, but if they're TOO big, it just won't work.

I think a better name for the HopDevil could be the HopMaltDevil....

[studentofbeer]

Originally posted by hops99
Hops are like breasts to me, the bigger the better, but if they're TOO big, it just won't work.

my new sig? :D

[Tweek]

Originally posted by studentofbeer
id definitely recommend seeking out the hop ottin, although its definitely NOT what id consider balanced. some may want to call it hop juice, but it's really good hop juice. thats a nice summer day beer or to go with really spicy foods. crisp and bittah!

would you say it could be called a devil of hops?

I think this is sorta like the imperial pilsner thread, so I will submit on this, and agree that, by the measure that was intended in this thread the hop devil is hoppy.

Steveh, I hope you can find some of that hop ottin, if you cant let me know and we will work something out. It is that kind of beer that I was expecting when I got my sixer of hopdevil.

[Tweek]

Originally posted by Beaver
I've had the Hop Ottin on tap and it wasn't remarkably bitter. I think beers are normally mellower on tap though.

really? wow. to me this beer was like sucking on a hop flower. I shall try to find it on tap. I am on vacation next week, maybe I can talk the wife into a trip up to boonville.

[Tweek]

Originally posted by hops99
Hops are like breasts to me, the bigger the better, but if they're TOO big, it just won't work.


I dont think I have ever met too big, in breast or hop. Your statement confuses my fragile sense of well being! :D

[chazwicke]

Originally posted by steveh
I'd call the Hopdevil just as hoppy as 3-F Alpha King.

To me, the Hopdevil keeps the promise of its name without overkill, and their balance between both hop varietels (sp?) and the malt is outstanding.

S.

What was that Pils you sent me Chaz? The one with a hop-suggestive name? I was afraid that was going to be an overly-hoppy Pils, but it was pretty mellow.

The Tupper's Hop Pocket? (I have not forgotten about sending you some of the ale). Tuppers Ale is fairly hoppy but also well balanced. Not "Imperial" either. A very good beer. I wish it had gon farther in the voting. I like the Ale better than the Pils.

This is really gonna be a tough call between 3FFF and DFH. I am leaning ever so slightly to the Dreadnaught.

[BluesHarp]

Originally posted by Tweek
really? wow. to me this beer was like sucking on a hop flower. I shall try to find it on tap. I am on vacation next week, maybe I can talk the wife into a trip up to boonville.

I didn't find it overly hopped either...in bottle form.
I did think it was much sweeter than say, Alpha King, without as many bittering hops.
I did enjoy it though, and plan to get more to refresh my memory.

Rocky Mountain's "Hazed and Infused" is probably one of the most hop flavored beers I've ever had; not real balanced, but if you like over-the-top fresh hop taste...this is the beer for you (not to mention one of the most beautiful, billowing, long lasting heads I've ever seen!)

[Tweek]

this thread is really interesting. I know that with tasting everyone has diferent thresholds for tastes. I wonder if that varies from hop to hop, meaning that perhpas I am more sensitive to the flavor of cascade and Steveh is more sensitve to the flavor of centennial (just an example has no bearing on anything) It would actually explain a lot.

[Beaver]

I'm not skilled enough to pick out different hops yet. I have noticed that some hoppy beers (Avery IPA, Hop Ottin, Arrogant Bastard) have a pretty strong grapefuit / citrus thing going on. I think the fruitiness really helps to balance out the bitterness in these. Is this due to a particular kind of hops?

[steveh]

Originally posted by chazwicke
The Tupper's Hop Pocket? Not "Imperial" either.

Yeah, that was the one. I just remember hearing the "Hop Pocket" moniker and figured it was another brewer's concoction of "hopping for hops" sake.

The Hopdevil isn't of the "imperial" style either. Just a good, ol' fashioned IPA.

This is really gonna be a tough call between 3FFF and DFH. I am leaning ever so slightly to the Dreadnaught.

I know, I KNOW!! I think I need to go get a bottle of each - for scientific research only, of course! ;)

S.

[steveh]

Originally posted by Beaver
I'm not skilled enough to pick out different hops yet. I have noticed that some hoppy beers (Avery IPA, Hop Ottin, Arrogant Bastard) have a pretty strong grapefuit / citrus thing going on. I think the fruitiness really helps to balance out the bitterness in these. Is this due to a particular kind of hops?

The grapefruit/citrus character usually comes from Cascade hops - just think Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. Centennial hops have some similar, mellower citrus character, but I always equate them to a "true" hop flavor/aroma. Chinooks have a piney and spicy character - good for balancing with big malt character. And those are just the tip of the ice-berg!

Tweek, you're correct in that perceptions of flavor and aroma can be at different levels with different people - as well as based on different levels of experience. And yes, very subjective.

S.

[studentofbeer]

Originally posted by steveh
Tweek, you're correct in that perceptions of flavor and aroma can be at different levels with different people - as well as based on different levels of experience. And yes, very subjective.

S.

also it probably varies on temp sampled, what if anything you were eating it with and your general mood while drinking it. With hoppy ales that emphasize the hop like hop ottin' or grant's ipa i definitely can recall some times when i felt blown away by the pucker-inducing hop aroma and flavor and other times wherei was just sorta like, meh, i need some more body.

[steveh]

Originally posted by studentofbeer
...also it probably varies on temp sampled, what if anything you were eating it with and your general mood while drinking it.

This is all very true, which is why when I sit down to taste for the reviews I write, I make sure that I have a clean palate - no previous food (at least since lunch) or drink other than water before-hand. If I'm tasting 2 different beers I'll eat some plain bread and drink water between the 2 in order to clear my palate.

AFA mood - if I'm drinking a new beer, or an old fave, it always puts me in a good mood! ;)

But you're right, it's mood and atmosphere that make a Guinness taste better at Davy Byrnes or O'Neill's near Trinity College, or a Spaten Okto at the Hirschau in the Englischer Garten, or even a Honker's Ale at Goose Island Wrigleyville - for that matter!

[threecb]

Originally posted by Beaver
I'm not skilled enough to pick out different hops yet. I have noticed that some hoppy beers (Avery IPA, Hop Ottin, Arrogant Bastard) have a pretty strong grapefuit / citrus thing going on. I think the fruitiness really helps to balance out the bitterness in these. Is this due to a particular kind of hops?

There are some good resources on the net for the basic profiles of hop varieties. I had a great one bookmarked, but must've lost it in my recent system upgrade. Google something like "hop flavor profiles".

And it is true that everyone's palate varies. For instance, I think I have a high tolerance for diacytel flavor, so I don't really get bothered by it unless it's over the top. Guess that's why I dig Ringwood brewers like Middle Ages in Syracuse and (I think) Magic Hat.

[chazwicke]

And Shipyard in Maine! I like the Ringwood too. Alan Pugsley is who we owe thanks to for promoting its use.

[threecb]

Originally posted by chazwicke
And Shipyard in Maine! I like the Ringwood too. Alan Pugsley is who we owe thanks to for promoting its use.

Ah, Yes! How could I forget Shipyard! I see them get bashed alot, but I think they make some solid session beers, and Old Thumper is great.

[Beaver]

I finally got to sample this from a trade and I wasn't let down. I even got to use "pillowy" in my notes! :D

The Hop Devil pours a copper-orange with a pillowy off-white head that has good retention and exhibits some lacing.

Its aroma is strong hops with a nice citrus balance, along with some malty cookie underneath.

The taste is fruit and bready malt initially followed by a big piney hop bang. The hops are nice and strong with a lingering bitter taste, but the beer remains very nicely balanced. More malts come out as the beer warms. It has a nice smooth and creamy mouthfeel.

Overall, this is an excellent IPA.

[HarkJohnny]

Originally posted by Tweek
hop ottin......... It is that kind of beer that I was expecting when I got my sixer of hopdevil.

yes I think the Hop Ottin had spoiled me as I had it before the Victory Hop Devil and was expecting more.

then again Stone IPA is killer to. oh and for an Imperial IPA, get a 22 of the Ruination and share with your best friend.

[Katefan00]

Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but I just picked up a 6er of this earlier today and WOW. Me likey. I'd never had it before. Not a hophead at all, I tend toward maltier porters and nut browns and rich Belgians, but this was really good. Well-balanced. Look forward to having it again when it's a bit warmer.

K.

[hopjack13]

i liked it as well! i thought it was similar (and i seem to be the exception) to the alpha king.

[sundontlie]

i'm no hop head, but has anyone ever tried weyerbacher (i think) hops infusion ale? they use 7 different hops in it or something?? my friend and i did not like it, when you open the bottle, it foams all over the place, as it also does once its in your mouth, i though it was quite ridiculous actually...

[chazwicke]

I have had it at Stoudts Beer Festivals. It was a decent beer. I have not had the bottles but I've had similar gushing problems with some of the Yards bottles. What Gives? I'm bound to be trying more of the Weyerbacher brews as my son will most likely be attending a college fairly near Bethelehem and Easton. I have not yet been to Bethelehem Brew Works either.

[xsef1x]

Great PA. brewery! I enjoy most of the Victory Brewing Co. beer.

[chazwicke]

welcome to the board!

[Osh]

The ultimate lurker is finally opening his yap. Was as the paint store the other day and the Hopdevil caught my eye. I remembered reading the thread on it so a sixer found it's way home. Although a pretty decent beer it's no Alpha King by a long shot. Geez, Goose Islands IPA is more hoppy than this. I just confirmed this with a non-scientific taste test just minutes ago LOL.

Also picked up some DFH Indian Brown, I'll stick with the 60 min.


Another one I really like when I have some extra change is the Avery"Beast" a Grand Cru style.

The Firkin is calling me so I think I'll try a O'hara's.
Later

[steveh]

Originally posted by Osh
The ultimate lurker is finally opening his yap.

Northern Suburbs...? How often have we crossed paths?

S.

And how did you like the O'Hara's?

[Osh]

Originally posted by steveh
[B]Northern Suburbs...? How often have we crossed paths?

S.


Who knows Steve. I was in a couple of homebrew contest years ago. Been to Durty Nellies for alot of their brewfest, beer tastings at Armenetties, Finn's and the Firken. I can walk home from the last two if necessary.

Just a FYI, I heard that the Firken is having a Widmer nite this thursday.

[steveh]

Originally posted by Osh
Finn's and the Firken. I can walk home from the last two if necessary.

Well, then I'm sure we must have passed in the night. My friends and I have been known to do the "Libertyville Pub Crawl." Firkin to Finn's to Morgan's to Tavern and back to the Firkin.

Just a FYI, I heard that the Firken is having a Widmer nite this thursday.

FirkIn - After taking half a day off to hang with Chaz, Kalleh, and Bruno today - I have the feeling Thursday evening will be catch-up time. You working today? If no, meet us at Goose Island around 3:00!

Did you make O'Hara's night at the Firkin?

I'll keep an eye open for you this Summer - the Finn's Biergarten is a definite fave. Look for a '91 British racing green Miata parked behind the Firkin and you're bound to find my obnoxious self bending Dave's or Rich's ear at the bar!

S.

[aspiditesramsay]

Originally posted by Tweek
This is probabally going to be percieved the same way as my arrogant bastard as a session beer was but I didnt think the hopdevil was all that hoppy. I thought it was a fine beer, just didnt have enough hops to warrant the name.



I agree this may be a pale ale but IPA it is not. Needs way more hops. It is all malt sweetness.

[fretlessman71]

Heeheehee... I think you westerners are all hopped up. ;)

[kevin]

just had this Hopdevil and to me I felt it was astringent as it went right to the back corners of my tongue, unless that is chinook which I'm not really familar with.

[threecb]

wow, "astringent"?

That's one word I wouldn'tve associated with HopDevil. I think it's one of the more balanced IPAs out there. It was a favorite of mine for a long time.

[Katefan00]

I definitely don't remember any astringency in the 6er that I downed pretty easily. I also thought it was very well-balanced!

K.

[chazwicke]

I drank a Thirsty Dog Hoppus Maximus last night. Anyone know what hops they us in it?

[BrewDog]

I had a Hopdevil on Tuesday. This was in the Philly airport at Anton's, a bar on concourse B that has > 40 beers on tap. I guess it was pretty stupid to order this there. I was quite disappointed. It came in a 32 oz (!) mug (a warning sign in itself). Very, VERY harsh alcohol nose and aftertaste. All bitterness was up front, with almost no hop flavor or aroma. Slight cardboard & sherry taste (oxidized), not overwhelming but definitely noticeable.

I sent it back after forcing down about a quarter of it, and ended up having an Anchor Steam instead, which I figured was popular enough that it probably would be fresher. I should have known better with the Hopdevil.

A couple hours earlier at the Providence Airport, I thoroughly enjoyed not 1 but 2 Newport Storms. I'll be back to Westerly in early August -- Newport, we should hook up.

[MeridianFC]

That is an utter tragedy. Hopdevil on draft is one of the best beers this country makes.

[steveh]

What did the server say when you sent it back? The mug wasn't chilled, was it? :rolleyes:

S.

[fretlessman71]

Originally posted by BrewDog
I had a Hopdevil on Tuesday. This was in the Philly airport at Anton's, a bar on concourse B that has > 40 beers on tap. I guess it was pretty stupid to order this there. I was quite disappointed. It came in a 32 oz (!) mug (a warning sign in itself). Very, VERY harsh alcohol nose and aftertaste. All bitterness was up front, with almost no hop flavor or aroma. Slight cardboard & sherry taste (oxidized), not overwhelming but definitely noticeable.

I sent it back after forcing down about a quarter of it, and ended up having an Anchor Steam instead, which I figured was popular enough that it probably would be fresher. I should have known better with the Hopdevil.
I have a similar problem with 90 Shilling at Elway's - seems I'm the only person who orders it, and it gets pretty stale. I wish I could get them to change the keg a little more often...

[denver brewhoo]

another airport bar to avoid is the Foggy Bottom outlet at Reagan National in DC down by gate A-10.....I'm no fan of Foggy Bottom anyhoo but what happens to it when served thru dirty lines is appalling, ditto Sam's Summer.

Fret, been meaning to ask you, how often are you at Elways? I was there one Saturdaymaybe a month or six weeks ago when the talent was a stand-up acoustic bass player and a piano player-vocalist, thin, attractive, looked to be late 30s early 40's (The chick singer, not the dude playing bass!!!)

Anyhoo the night I was there some older lady collapsed and they had to call an ambulance, the singer came over to help as she was, if I heard correctly, a nurse in her day job.....anyhow, were you the bass player?

PS you could always drink the Odells 5 Barrel there.....

[fretlessman71]

Man, you SAW me, and didn't even come over to say hi? I remember that night for sure - yep, Jennifer is rather statuesque, isn't she? And her Girl Scout training helped her get that lady back on her feet.

Bass player had long hair, glasses, looked like he was in his 2nd trimester? Yep, that was me. ;) Jennifer Lane is there T/F/S every week, and I'm almost always the bassist. I'm off this Friday, but I'm there tonight and Saturday (I'm playing a metal gig with GasHead @ the Oriental Theatre on 44th @ 7:30 Friday night). Do stop in and introduce yourself - I promise I won't bite!

Actually, the 5 barrel has sufferred from the same yeast-bomb staleness as the 90. I'm almost afraid to drink them for fear that I'll start not liking my favorite beer!

Now they have Carlsberg beer on tap... is it even worth my time?

[steveh]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
Now they have Carlsberg beer on tap... is it even worth my time?

Not unless it's the Carlsbberg 47. But what do you pay? Take one for the team!

S.

Man - you play stand up too? ;)

[fretlessman71]

Standup, upright, string bass, bass viol, bull fiddle, doghouse, it's all the same instrument. And yes, I do. As a matter of fact, I triple on upright, fretted electric and fretless electric (which is sort of my specialty after years of playing with Wind Machine). I've even played keyboard bass on a few local techno/urban groove projects. One does what one can, doesn't one? :)

[Katefan00]

I've been trying to learn 4-string banjo (jazz banjo, not bluegrass), but have been having trouble because it's fretted. I played violin for many, many years, obviously no frets, and the frets are throwing me WAY off.

K

[BrewDog]

Yeah, Fret's a real Stand-up kinda guy!

[HogieWan]

Originally posted by Katefan00
and the frets are throwing me WAY off.

just catch the fingerboard right behind the fret

[Katefan00]

Yeah, I understand functionally how to do it, I'm just not used to it. It feels like an interference. I'm used to being able to put my fingers wherever I darn well please on the fingerboard. Also, I'm used to hitting notes in very precise spots. Somehow having all that real estate make the same note is throwing me off too.

K.

[HogieWan]

I had trouble playing a fretless bass the first time - exactly the opposite problem. I wasn't used to having to put my finger in one spot to make the right note. I was used to hitting anywhere between the frets and be in tune.

[Katefan00]

The other thing that's getting me, which is related to feeling like the fret is an interference, is playing half steps... I'm used to being able to just slide my finger up or down a bit to make a sharp or flat, not playing in an entire other fret. It's more of a stretch than I'm used to. Maybe I should get a fretless banjo ;)

Sorry for the musical diversion... back to Victory Hopdevil, which I wish I had in hand as we type. In addition to the Hopdevil, my local liquor store just started carrying the Witbier (which I thought was decent, but not stellar), and the Lager, which I have yet to try, AND the Golden Monkey, which I think is excellent.

K.

[Katefan00]

Speaking of which, Hogie, has Abita released another seasonal at this point? I could send you a care package of Victory brews, and maybe some Old Dominion.

K.

[HogieWan]

Originally posted by Katefan00
Speaking of which, Hogie, has Abita released another seasonal at this point? I could send you a care package of Victory brews, and maybe some Old Dominion.

K.

Their wheat is out. It's clear, with no sediment. Pretty tasty - designed for a hot Louisiana afternoon, and looking at your weather lately . . .

[Katefan00]

I wish you could get Ziegenbock in LA. That was the first beer I really enjoyed, but it's only sold in Texas. I'll be home in August, on my family's annual beach getaway in Galveston, I'll have to drink my fill then. The wheat sounds great; I like wheat beers. Still have fond memories of the Abita Red you sent.

K.

[denver brewhoo]

ok am I the only one on this forum who doesn't play fretless bass?

[fretlessman71]

Originally posted by Katefan00
I've been trying to learn 4-string banjo (jazz banjo, not bluegrass), but have been having trouble because it's fretted. I played violin for many, many years, obviously no frets, and the frets are throwing me WAY off.

K Try thinking of the difference between frets and fretless as the difference between hopscotch and balance beam. On a fretted instrument, as long as you get your finger inbetween the frets, you hit the right note (within reason). On a fretless, it's either in tune or it's not. One thing you might practice is placing your finger right on top of the frets instead of behind them, simply for the sake of getting used to it. If you go this route, be advised that it's not going to sound quite like you want it to right off, but it will get you used to the idea of frets a little faster, and you can tweak your technique from there. Just my $0.02. :)

[fretlessman71]

Originally posted by Katefan00
The other thing that's getting me, which is related to feeling like the fret is an interference, is playing half steps... I'm used to being able to just slide my finger up or down a bit to make a sharp or flat, not playing in an entire other fret. It's more of a stretch than I'm used to. Maybe I should get a fretless banjo ;)

Actually, there is such a beast - might be just the ticket for you! OTOH, it's not going to sound the same as a fretted instrument - there will be a drop off of high frequencies. Your finger just isn't going to be as hard as a fret. But if it's what makes you happy and you can make it work, then more power to you!

I've heard a lot of people who started on violin and moved to a bass, guitar, or other fretted instrument complain about the frets. I always thought that they made things easier for me because they allowed me to organize my mind a little better. Something you might do is pick up a MANDOLIN - it's exactly the same stringing and pitch as a violin, so anything you can play on a violin you can figure out on a mandolin and get used to the frets that way. Frets can be sort of like having a graph transparency laid over your violin fingerboard, helping you to "see" what you've been doing, or giving you a visual you never had before.

And no whining about not being able to slide up your half-steps - you gotta give a little to get a little. And you can achieve a similar effect simply by bending the strings up parallel to the fret. Tenor banjo is very cool!

[steveh]

Originally posted by denver brewhoo
ok am I the only one on this forum who doesn't play fretless bass?

No...
let's get back to the Tasting Notes please. :cool:

S.

[fretlessman71]

Fine - I heard some tasty licks on a Steve Bailey album just a few days ago... :D

(Besides... I've been feeling like I know a lot less than I did about beer these days... gotta spout off about something, I guess!)

[steveh]

You go ahead and give me a good review of the (real) hop character of your bass, and I'll let you continue - otherwise, I'm sure there's an instrument forum somewhere. :cool:

S.

Sorry, not really trying to be hard-nosed about it, but this is the tasting forum.

[HogieWan]

Originally posted by Katefan00
Still have fond memories of the Abita Red you sent.

That one was good - it sold out of the stores around here quick. Ablita lists all their seasonals and the months they are released on their website, but the page is broken right now.