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tj beerman
02-27-2004, 07:56 PM
Does anyone know of a recipe that would be all wheat
I work in the at a grain elevator and wheat harvest is comming in July and i can get all the wheat I could stand.
what problems could I encounter?

brewmonkey
02-27-2004, 08:07 PM
For starters you would have unmalted wheat. While it is usable it will not convert on its own. You also need a strong mill as raw wheat is very tough to crack.

Now if you wanted to do something along the lines of a Wit, unmalted wheat would work and you could get away with using as little as 20% of the grist as wheat.

tj beerman
02-27-2004, 09:02 PM
I have a mill that will work we use it to grind wheat to test for vomitoxin a disease that happens in wheat when you have certain set of parameters in the spring.

what would it talke to malt the wheat
dumb questions but this popped into my head tonight

brewmonkey
02-28-2004, 07:58 AM
Originally posted by tj beerman
I have a mill that will work we use it to grind wheat to test for vomitoxin a disease that happens in wheat when you have certain set of parameters in the spring.

what would it talke to malt the wheat
dumb questions but this popped into my head tonight


Did you know vomitoxin can survive the brewing process and is lethal to some animals?

Malting wheat would be done just as barley malt. You would need to have a controlled temp area to do it. Check out some of the sires like Cargill and Rahr malting, they should have some good intel on the malting process. It is doable at home but the process can be lengthy.

tj beerman
02-28-2004, 08:10 AM
thanks
I guess I should have known that Cargill would know since thats the company that I work for.

brewmonkey
02-28-2004, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by tj beerman
thanks
I guess I should have known that Cargill would know since thats the company that I work for.

D'oh!

If you do this, take some pictures of the various stages if you could. It would make for an interesting project.

Caffinehog
02-28-2004, 09:41 AM
Keep in mind that this won't taste very much like beer. I don't know if it will be better or worse, though. And you'll have to go light on the hops.
For what it's worth, even unmalted wheat makes a good adjunct in brewing.

Oh, yeah... wheat is low in enzymes, so you could end up with a stuck mash or very low gravity beer. A pound or two of six-row malt should remedy that, though. 75% wheat should be doable.

brewmonkey
02-28-2004, 10:03 AM
I would have to disagree, have you ever head a wheat wine? I have had all wheat beers before and they have been outstanding. IIRC Flossmor station had a wheat wine that was awesome.

100% wheat can be used if it is malted properly and with the addition of rice or oat hulls lauter should not be a problem provided a step mash is used.

Tweek
02-28-2004, 11:23 AM
never even heard of a wheat wine. What is it like?

brewmonkey
02-28-2004, 11:41 AM
The ones that I have had all have been quite fruity and floral in aroma and flavor with a very suprising body to them. Check out www.ratebeer.com and search for wheatwine or "wheat Wine". Several of them over there.

Tweek
02-28-2004, 11:52 AM
thanks. Ill have to hunt some of those down and give em a try.

Fast_Eddy
02-28-2004, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by Caffinehog
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Oh, yeah... wheat is low in enzymes, so you could end up with a stuck mash or very low gravity beer. A pound or two of six-row malt should remedy that, though. 75% wheat should be doable...

Malted wheat has as much Diastatic power as most all malted barley - it can convert itself. See link below

http://www.specialtymalts.com/cargill_malt/malt_analysis.html