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S.F.B.
01-28-2004, 12:13 PM
Fixing to do my first all grain. I figure I will do an ESB. They seem pretty middle of the road and it isn't a huge grain bill. I am pretty familiar with the process since I have been mini mashing for about a year. Still, I would like to get feedback on the ingredients.

Submitted for your input, ridicule or approval:

Grain:
10 lb. British 2-row
8 oz. Dextrine malt (Cara-Pils)
8 oz. British crystal 50-60L
4 oz. British crystal 95-115L

Hops:
1 oz. Challenger (10% AA, 60 min.)
.75 oz. Fuggles (4.75% AA, 45 min.)
.5 oz. Fuggles (4.75% AA, 15 min.)

I plan on usingWyeast 1028 London ale yeast.

O.K., let 'er rip. :D

Stodbrew
01-29-2004, 02:39 AM
Actually, that looks pretty damn good! I expect a couple bottles when it's done!:D

Tweek
01-29-2004, 10:44 AM
agreed!

Fast_Eddy
01-29-2004, 10:53 AM
Looks good to me, too - is 1028 the Whitbread yeast?

S.F.B.
01-29-2004, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by Fast_Eddy
Looks good to me, too - is 1028 the Whitbread yeast?

1028 is the London Ale. The description goes like this:
Rich, mineral profile, bold and crisp- with some diacetyl production.

Stod and Tweek, I probably will not be bottling any of this. You never know, though. ;)

Fast_Eddy
01-29-2004, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by S.F.B.
1028 is the London Ale. The description goes like this:
Rich, mineral profile, bold and crisp- with some diacetyl production.

Stod and Tweek, I probably will not be bottling any of this. You never know, though. ;)

It's the yeast of supposed Bass origin...go check out

http://smurman.best.vwh.net/zymurgy/wyeast.html

Moondoggy
01-31-2004, 06:59 PM
I have only brewed 2 batches of extract to date but I am extremely interested in doing AG.

I have done some reading on batch sparging and I was wondering how much more grain would be needed for a batch sparge on this recipe?

I am assuming this is for a 5 gallon batch.

Beerconnoisseur
01-31-2004, 08:55 PM
That recipe looks terrible-- absolutely terrible. Send all bottles to me for immediate disposal. ;)

S.F.B.
02-02-2004, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by Beerconnoisseur
That recipe looks terrible-- absolutely terrible. Send all bottles to me for immediate disposal. ;)

Yeah. Right. lol

Thanks for the feedback evryone. I am going to be brewwing Wednesday. I'll keep you informed.

Stumptown
02-02-2004, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by Moondoggy
I have only brewed 2 batches of extract to date but I am extremely interested in doing AG.

I have done some reading on batch sparging and I was wondering how much more grain would be needed for a batch sparge on this recipe?

I am assuming this is for a 5 gallon batch.

It depends. You'd need to know what the OG of the recipe is intended to be. Basically, a recipe is one brewer saying that on his particular equipment, with these particular ingredients, he will produce a beer with a certain OG and IBUs. What you need to know to adjust a recipe for your specific equipment is the target OG and your brewing system's efficiency. Plug those numbers and the grain bill into a brewing calculator and you can figure out what you need from there.

Fly sparging is generally more efficient that batch sparging. If the above receipe was created by someone on a batch sparging system to give a certain OG, you may not have to change it much to hit that target OG. On the other hand, if a brewer with a very efficient system created the recipe, you may need to add a pound or two of grain, depending on your system.

This is why you should always run a recipe through promash or beertools or similar before brewing it. I find that with my relatively inefficient batch sparging system, I often need to add a pound or 1.5 of grain. But not always.

For instance, if the intended OG of the above recipe is 1.064, I'm gonna miss that on my system, which will give me about 1.057. I'd need about 1.25 pounds more of grain.

Fast_Eddy
02-02-2004, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by Stumptown
...

Fly sparging is generally more efficient that batch sparging

...

Hate to say it but this, in general, is wrong. See

http://www.byo.com/mrwizard/1127.html

The way I sparge is very close to batch and I'm usually in the 75%+ range for extraction. On more than one occassion I've popped over 80%.

Stumptown
02-02-2004, 03:45 PM
Actually, Fast Eddy, don't be sorry. I'm a batch sparger, too. For some reason I always assumed that fly sparging was more efficient. Don't know why. Thanks for the info.

OK, so now there is officially NO good reason to fly sparge . . . ;)

Fast_Eddy
02-02-2004, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by Stumptown
Actually, Fast Eddy, don't be sorry. I'm a batch sparger, too. For some reason I always assumed that fly sparging was more efficient. Don't know why. Thanks for the info.

OK, so now there is officially NO good reason to fly sparge . . .

Cool. Everybody is here to learn - I know I am.

There are some cons to batch - they're laid out in the article above.