using gas burners in the basement?

[jstrausss]

i know alot of brewers uses those turkey cooker type gas burners for brewing . Especially All-Grain Brewing . would it be safe to use that in an unfurnished basement of a Home ? or dos anyone use those in there homes, in an unfurnished basement?

[chazwicke]

I am no longer brewing at home but I would say NO WAY. I have heard that you should not even use them in a garage with the door open. Use only outside.

[Tweek]

I wouldnt. Maybe if it was really well ventilated but it would be a bit sketchy.

[YamahaXS]

there are several issues that i can think of.

Carbon monoxide poisoning WILL kill you.

Oxygen depletion will seriously mess you up and MIGHT kill you.

Humidity wafting up to your joyces and subflooring can't be good.... at the least you will get a gooey build up that will attrack insects and rodents...


Otherwise it sounds like a good idea, assuming you don't die. :) I wonder what a ventilation system would cost? How do you design on that

[paul84043]

No, an open burner in the basement is a really bad idea for all the reasons already posted....
I use mine in the garage, but keep it right next to the open door. (the air moving through the doorway helps keep the boilovers to a minimum.)

[mmmBeer...]

In some places it is illegal to do this…your insurance company would also probably refuse to cover any damage done if something went wrong. This may also be the case if you are using it inside your garage.

[OldHooky]

This was my plan. Turkey fryer or this, http://www.vmisales.com/superb/pc-100.html, in my basement brew room with a ventilation hood that moves 160 cfm vented out the side of the house with a carbon monoxcide detector in the room. I'll probably go with the natural gas burner from the link because natural gas seems to burn cleaner. But even that is supposed to be used outdoors. This guy, http://www.leebrewery.com/new3ves.htm, uses three of them in his indoor brew system

[Tweek]

I did not take the time to read through his set up but my guess is that he prob has a pretty high end vent system. I would imagnie that if you are hell bent on doing this perhaps you could go get a good hood to suck out all the vapor and moisture and then it would be relatively safer.

[Jeff]

Yamaha for your info and anybody else's to meet the combustion air requirements of a 35,000 btu burner you would need two 6" x 6" ducts from the outside brought into the room one 12" AFF (above finished floor) and the other mounted as high as possible.

Now that I have proved I am a nerd, I still woudln't do it, surely no matter how cold it is outside it would be a better option.

[YamahaXS]

do you need fans on the ducts? or is passive air movement sufficient?

[Tweek]

Sounds like Jeff will prob answer definitively, but I am guessing you will need fans.

[chazwicke]

I still say DON'T DO IT!!!

[jstrausss]

My First reactions to the Possibility was no way , but I just thought to ask. It was also hard to believe that most of use here do our brewing outside. Its just so nice and confirtable inside, and what are the neighbors thinking. LOL

[Jeff]

The ductwork I mentioned you don't need fans. This is basically the requirement for gas fired heating equipment such as furnaces and water heaters in a commercial building. In most homes people get away with louvers in their doors of the furnace room. I still say I would not do it, the gas fired equipment I am talking about is made for indoor use, where as a turkery fryer burner is not. If anything I would suggest getting a gas stove with a residential non-recirculating hood placed over top of it. At least in this situation the insurance company would cover damages. :)

[unkle bik]

Suicide is painless.

[OldHooky]

Excuse my ignorance. Is there a difference between using all four 9,000 btu burners on your residential stove or one 35,000 btu natural gas burner? I planned on using a hood with a 160 cfm fan through a existing 4" vent(previously used for a dryer) with about 10' of flexible duct.

[chazwicke]

Originally posted by unkle bik
Suicide is painless.

That is the name of the theme song from M*A*S*H.

What do I win? :D

[Stumptown]

If someone is going to go through all that trouble to install the necessary ductwork to use LP inside, why not just convert to natural gas instead?

Regardless, I wouldn't risk blowing up my house.