First All Grain Brew HELP HELP

[vance71975]

Ok this is what i am going to have on hand for my first all grain batch need recipe ideas using the following, I have no money to order anything else so it has to be with the following Ingredients, I do have some extract on hand but i would rather do a complete all grain batch, i have 2-6lbs wheat extract and 1-6lb gold extract Both are Briess:

Brown Malt(Crisp) 2.5lbs

De-Husked Carafa® III (Weyermann®) 2.5 lbs

Caramel 20L (Briess) 2.5 lbs

Caramel 80L (Briess) 2.5 lbs

Chocolate Malt (Briess)2.5 lbs

Coffee Malt (Simpson's) 2.5lbs

Roasted Barley (Simpson's) 2.5 lbs

Oat Malt (Thomas Fawcett & Sons)12.5lbs

Crystal Rye (Simpson's) 1lb

Rye (Weyermann®)1lb.

American 6-Row (Rahr) 2 lb.

Safbrew S-33 1 package

Nottingham 6 Packages

Amarillo 2oz 7%AA hops(but woman will kill me if i use them she has claimed them for her next batch)

UK Fuggle 8oz 4.5AA

That is what i have on hand to brew my first all grain batch Any ideas? I am thinking something like the following but if someone has something they think would be better i am open to changing it Or doing something totally different.



ORSB-Oat Rye Special Bitter



Type: All Grain
Boil Time: 90 min


Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
6 lbs Oats, Malted (1.0 SRM) Grain 63.16 %
1 lbs Brown Malt (65.0 SRM) Grain 10.53 %
1 lbs Pale Malt (6 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 10.53 %
1 lbs Rye Malt (4.7 SRM) Grain 10.53 %
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) Grain 5.26 %
3.00 oz Fuggles [4.50 %] (90 min) Hops 43.7 IBU
1 Pkgs Nottingham (Danstar #-) Yeast-Ale



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.050 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.012 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.95 %
Bitterness: 43.7 IBU
Est Color: 13.0 SRM


Mash Profile

Mash Name: Single Infusion, Full Body Total Grain Weight: 9.50 lb

Single Infusion, Full Body Step Time Name Description Step Temp
45 min Mash In Add 11.88 qt of water at 170.5 F 158.0 F
10 min Mash Out Add 4.75 qt of water at 196.6 F 168.0 F

[MootsLnbKing]

not sure but i would add more 2-row and less oats but if not add some rice hulls for the mash. Or just use the gold LME.

[vance71975]

not sure but i would add more 2-row and less oats but if not add some rice hulls for the mash. Or just use the gold LME.

Well i called the store i ordered the Oat Malt from and they said it was suitable to substitute for pale malt up to 100% for a "silky" change of pace.They also told me that it will self convert, So who knows maybe ill do a S.M.A.S.H Ale With oat Malt.Might make for a unique session ale. Maybe Toast/roast 1/2 lb Oat Malt in the oven and use 7lbs Oat malt Un-toasted. It would Appear i have some time to decide as brewchic has already "called Dibs" on using my Primary for her honey wheat stout.

[Mill Rat]

Yeah, your biggest problem is the lack of any significant quantity of a typical base malt. I'd go the whiskey tango foxtrot route and do the oat beer. Set your mill tight, as the oat grains are thinner than barley.

[vance71975]

not sure but i would add more 2-row and less oats but if not add some rice hulls for the mash. Or just use the gold LME.


You don't need rice hulls when using oat Malt it has a TON of husk material, this isn't flaked oats this is the "real" whole oat kernel as it comes from the plant, just malted.

[B_rad1969]

Just curious... How did you get an odd mix of malt like that?

[corkybstewart]

Just curious... How did you get an odd mix of malt like that?
Excellent question. I tend to buy more specialty malts than I end up using in a given time frame, but that's such a strange mix, especially to have no malted barley.

[vance71975]

Excellent question. I tend to buy more specialty malts than I end up using in a given time frame, but that's such a strange mix, especially to have no malted barley.

I planed it that way. Oat malt can be used as a base malt and i wanted to experiment with it. Sure you can buy a dozen commercial Stouts that have Oats in them but can you think of ONE made with Oats as the Base Malt? When i brew, other than Stouts and porters and even those, i try to brew something i cant buy a commercial example of anywhere. That is how i ended up with the mix of grains have.And thanks to a Great mom that bought me the rest of the parts my mash tun and hot water tun are finished WAY before i thought they would be.So i am itching to brew an all grain batch!

[vance71975]

I gotta say tomorrow is brew day, and where as all the brews listed in this thread WILL get made, i think i am gonna go simple for my first all grain batch and hopefully thus encounter less problems! So here is my first All Grain Brew, Swag will be my Second All Grain Brew. And Jamiez Recipe Will be my third.




Oat Brown Ale

Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Time: 90 min

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
7 lbs Oats, Malted (1.0 SRM) Grain 58.33 %
2 lbs Brown Malt (65.0 SRM) Grain 16.67 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 8.33 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) Grain 8.33 %
1 lbs Pale Malt (6 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 8.33 %
3.00 oz Fuggles [4.50 %] (90 min) Hops 37.2 IBU
1.00 oz Fuggles [4.50 %] (5 min) Hops 2.3 IBU
1 Pkgs Nottingham (Danstar #-) Yeast-Ale



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.064 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.015 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.35 %
Bitterness: 39.6 IBU
Est Color: 21.2 SRM


Mash Profile


Single Infusion, Full Body Step Time Name Description Step Temp
45 min Mash In Add 15.00 qt of water at 170.5 F 158.0 F
10 min Mash Out Add 6.00 qt of water at 196.6 F 168.0 F

[vance71975]

I gotta say tomorrow is brew day, and where as all the brews listed in this thread WILL get made, i think i am gonna go simple for my first all grain batch and hopefully thus encounter less problems! So here is my first All Grain Brew, Swag will be my Second All Grain Brew. And Jamiez Recipe Will be my third.




Oat Brown Ale

Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Time: 90 min

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
7 lbs Oats, Malted (1.0 SRM) Grain 58.33 %
2 lbs Brown Malt (65.0 SRM) Grain 16.67 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 8.33 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) Grain 8.33 %
1 lbs Pale Malt (6 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 8.33 %
3.00 oz Fuggles [4.50 %] (90 min) Hops 37.2 IBU
1.00 oz Fuggles [4.50 %] (5 min) Hops 2.3 IBU
1 Pkgs Nottingham (Danstar #-) Yeast-Ale



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.064 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.015 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.35 %
Bitterness: 39.6 IBU
Est Color: 21.2 SRM


Mash Profile


Single Infusion, Full Body Step Time Name Description Step Temp
45 min Mash In Add 15.00 qt of water at 170.5 F 158.0 F
10 min Mash Out Add 6.00 qt of water at 196.6 F 168.0 F

Just did my mash in at 158, got 2 gallons in my hot water tun at 200 now i just need to give it an hour and test it I AM SO STOKED TO BE DOING MY FIRST ALL GRAIN BATCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D :D :D

[Jaimez]

Just did my mash in at 158, got 2 gallons in my hot water tun at 200 now i just need to give it an hour and test it I AM SO STOKED TO BE DOING MY FIRST ALL GRAIN BATCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D :D :D
SEE! All grain is awesome. What recipe did you finally decide on?

Oh duh, you quoted it nvm, lol.

[Jaimez]

Oh wow your about to pull an all nighter like i did with my first AG. I've been putting it off but you know what i'm heatin up water now, ima pull an all nighter with ya, Lol.

[vance71975]

Oh wow your about to pull an all nighter like i did with my first AG. I've been putting it off but you know what i'm heatin up water now, ima pull an all nighter with ya, Lol.

All nighter hell im done sparging took 25 mins and on my boil!

[Jaimez]

All nighter hell im done sparging took 25 mins and on my boil!
How long did it take to get your water to target temp? How long did you mash for?

Plus what cooling method do you use?

I'm mashing now, and heating up my sparge water.

just doughed in my cereal mash.

[vance71975]

How long did it take to get your water to target temp? How long did you mash for?

Plus what cooling method do you use?

I'm mashing now, and heating up my sparge water.

just doughed in my cereal mash.

Well I have two round igloo coolers so when i heated my mash water, after i did my Dough in i heated my Sparge water to 200 and dumped it in the second cooler, and put the lid on. I mashed for 1 hour and 15 mins cause i was on a game so i ran a bit over.I have a immersion Chiller, BEST THING I EVER BOUGHT!

And i hit 64.63% efficiency the first run out so i need to redo my Mash tun, that is a lot lower than i wanted it to be. Sg 1.055. :mad:

[Jaimez]

Well I have two round igloo coolers so when i heated my mash water, after i did my Dough in i heated my Sparge water to 200 and dumped it in the second cooler, and put the lid on. I mashed for 1 hour and 15 mins cause i was on a game so i ran a bit over.I have a immersion Chiller, BEST THING I EVER BOUGHT!

And i hit 64.63% efficiency the first run out so i need to redo my Mash tun, that is a lot lower than i wanted it to be. Sg 1.055. :mad:
64% isn't optimal but its not bad first AG. I was at 58% my first time. Man i wish i had an immersion chiller.

[vance71975]

64% isn't optimal but its not bad first AG. I was at 58% my first time. Man i wish i had an immersion chiller.

Well i guess ill just have to be happy with it for now,BUT it will get fixed! AND i have proven to myself that i can do all grain, EVEN if i did it using non-standard malts. Its time to go pull a mug of my Heather Ale that i am IFFY on and see if it is good(no hops) and its much lighter than my standard brew but the wheat stout isn't carbed up yet!

[sully626]

Hey congrats Vance! How is the heather ale?

[corkybstewart]

65% is not bad, but efficiency is not the real goal here. The goal is to produce a fermentable wort. I can mash too hot and get a very high OG(better apparent efficiency), but I'm going to end up with a lot of unfermentable sugars and a very high FG.

[vance71975]

Hey congrats Vance! How is the heather ale?

It was nasty sadly, MASSIVE cider off flavor.