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chapesh
04-18-2009, 11:37 PM
i made an APA, didn't use enough cascade for the dry hopping. the local microbrewery has a ?hopback? in the dispensing line, so the beer goes over the fresh hops before entering your glass. i was wondering if i could simply poor over a strainer of hops into my glass and get the same result. any one do anything like this before? thnx.

corkybstewart
04-19-2009, 09:27 AM
I would worry that when your beer hits the hops it's going to turn into all foam in a heartbeat. But I could be completely wrong about that.

nelstrodomus
04-19-2009, 04:28 PM
Did you bottle or keg? If it's bottled, just drink it, if it's kegged you can add hops to the corny.

BrewDog
04-19-2009, 05:53 PM
Try dry hopping each bottle with 1 cone of whole flower hops. Works like a charm.

I wouldn't recommend pouring your beer through a strainer. All the carbonation will come out of solution and you'll end up with a flat glass once the foam settled down. (DFH's Randall works because it's closed and under pressure.)

beerking
04-20-2009, 07:58 AM
That type of pushing beer through fresh hops on the way to the tap was invented by Sammie C. at Dogfish Head. He has a large water filter canister that he stuffs with hops and then pushes the beer through. He calls it "Randall The Enamel Animal" because of what it feels like it is doing to your teeth! :D

chapesh
04-20-2009, 09:29 AM
sorry i kegged it. i should have made that clear in my first post.the other ? is how much hops to use and how often to change it. however after my second sampling it has a decent amount of aroma, i am fine with it the way it is. however as a future trial and for general knowledge i may try a small amount in different fashions to see how well it works. anyone else give this a shot on a small scale?

Beer Martin
04-20-2009, 11:41 AM
Try dry hopping each bottle with 1 cone of whole flower hops. Works like a charm.

I wouldn't recommend pouring your beer through a strainer. All the carbonation will come out of solution and you'll end up with a flat glass once the foam settled down. (DFH's Randall works because it's closed and under pressure.)


An entire cone per bottle? That seems like a rather expensive method of dry hopping. I generally use pellets, so how many hop cones are in an ounce of whole hops?

Though, I have been considering doing it for a few competition bottles. I've never seen a bottle of IPA in a comp with a whole hop leaf in it.

Would it be over the top? Or should you cut the hops into halves, or quarters even?

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nelstrodomus
04-20-2009, 08:35 PM
I just threw in an ounce of cascade on top of a a brown ale (cascade brown) that I didn't think had enough hop character to it. I just tried it tonight after hopping on Saturday and the flavor has already come through.

Go ahead and throw an ounce in there, I doubt you will forget it. You can just take a muslin and throw in the hops, I do it quite a bit and it hasn't clogged anything up yet. (I just about always use pellets)

BrewDog
04-21-2009, 12:35 AM
Actuall, I haven't seen one like that yet in a competition, either. I think either the judges will LOVE it or HATE it (I admit, I'd LOVE it if I ever got to judge a beer with a hop cone in it like that in a competition). But, I'm a hop head...

Beer Martin
04-21-2009, 08:16 AM
I talked to a well versed brewing buddy of mine. His thoughts on dry hopping in the bottle are as follows:

Positives:
You'd get great hop aroma
It could look really cool

Negatives:
You could get a vegetal character in the beer after prolonged aging
It could kill your appearance by adding different floaties and haze


He's never done this, but those are the thoughts he had about it. He said it could be really good, but he wouldn't do a whole batch and let it age because he'd be worried of the vegetal off flavors that could come. In the end I decided I'll try it out in like 10 bottles and taste.
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ambeer
04-25-2009, 10:30 PM
??
i dont know but unless you can screen, filter, sieve....(somehow) what comes out of the bottle....?
Or do you drink it with the beer...?
I'm just not buying it.....
or understanding it...?
:rolleyes:

Vienna Lager
05-05-2009, 10:42 AM
I wonder if the hop cone might expand in the bottle to the point that it gets lodged in the neck upon pouring?

beerking
05-05-2009, 11:01 AM
Interesting question. It probably depends on the hop variety, as I have seen large variances in cone size. I bet it could for the large ones.

Beer Martin
05-05-2009, 11:13 AM
Any thoughts on hops in the bottle producing vegital off flavors?

I decided to dry hop half the batch instead of putting hops in bottles.
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beerking
05-05-2009, 12:04 PM
I would think the polyphenol issue would be as valid here as in the other thread where we are talking aobut dry hopping. The main difference that I can see is that one hop cone is probably not much. Probably not a lot of polyphenols (or aromatics for that matter) to change the beer that much.
Then again, the ratio is quite different. If you try it, please post, I would be very interested in the outcome.

Beer Martin
05-05-2009, 01:59 PM
I would think the polyphenol issue would be as valid here as in the other thread where we are talking aobut dry hopping. The main difference that I can see is that one hop cone is probably not much. Probably not a lot of polyphenols (or aromatics for that matter) to change the beer that much.
Then again, the ratio is quite different. If you try it, please post, I would be very interested in the outcome.

I've bottled half. The other half is being dry hopped with cascade.

Of the bottled half, half of that has some hop extract added to the bottles, the other half is the control.

I could (and probably will) add some hop cones to half of the dry hopped bottles. I will post the results in the coming weeks.
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beerking
05-05-2009, 02:27 PM
I don't think you will get polyphenols from the extract, but you might from the cones.

ReidHollister
05-06-2009, 02:50 PM
I'm a beginning brewer, just bottled my first batch. I have this supercrappy mr beer kit (I'm going to brewshop today and outfitting my carboys dont worry) that I wound up dryhopping in the primary fermenter. While bottling I had no big problems until the last bottle as the hops clogged the drain and to not waste any beer I just poured the rest straight from the top of the primary. This gave me a lot of hop chunks in the last bottle, I don't know how it's going to turn out though.

ambeer
05-06-2009, 04:06 PM
I'm a beginning brewer, just bottled my first batch. I have this supercrappy mr beer kit (I'm going to brewshop today and outfitting my carboys dont worry) that I wound up dryhopping in the primary fermenter. While bottling I had no big problems until the last bottle as the hops clogged the drain and to not waste any beer I just poured the rest straight from the top of the primary. This gave me a lot of hop chunks in the last bottle, I don't know how it's going to turn out though.

We always put a gallon paint strainer on the output of the siphon hose when we transfer to avoid getting any chunks.
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