hop substitution

[cul8rv8]

OK, I just got in my ingredients for my pumpkin ale, and I have run into a problem due to my own stupidity. I trusted my inventory in BeerSmith, and apparently I didn't update it quite as accurately as I should have. I assumed I had 1.65 oz of Hallertauer left, and to keep the IBUs around 25, I was going to use 1 oz at 60 min, then .65 oz at 30 minutes. Well, now that I got the other ingredients in, I now decide to check my hops inventory. Don't ask me why I didn't check BEFORE I ordered everything else. Anyways, I only have about an ounce of Hallertauer.

So anyways, I believe that I can use the appropriate amount of Saaz hops at 60 minutes to get the same IBUs without imparting any kind of issue (I have about 3 or 4 oz of Saaz). It should still give the bitterness I'm looking for without any real flavor additions because they will be boiling for so long. I'm a little tired, and I'm in the middle of my personal Godfather marathon tonight, so I'm just looking for a little assurance is all. :)

[corkybstewart]

OK, I just got in my ingredients for my pumpkin ale, and I have run into a problem due to my own stupidity. I trusted my inventory in BeerSmith, and apparently I didn't update it quite as accurately as I should have. I assumed I had 1.65 oz of Hallertauer left, and to keep the IBUs around 25, I was going to use 1 oz at 60 min, then .65 oz at 30 minutes. Well, now that I got the other ingredients in, I now decide to check my hops inventory. Don't ask me why I didn't check BEFORE I ordered everything else. Anyways, I only have about an ounce of Hallertauer.

So anyways, I believe that I can use the appropriate amount of Saaz hops at 60 minutes to get the same IBUs without imparting any kind of issue (I have about 3 or 4 oz of Saaz). It should still give the bitterness I'm looking for without any real flavor additions because they will be boiling for so long. I'm a little tired, and I'm in the middle of my personal Godfather marathon tonight, so I'm just looking for a little assurance is all. :)
It'll work but it does seem like a waste of Saaz. Saaz usually has such low AA's you have to use a bunch for bittering. I think my current Saaz is under 3 AA's so I would have to use at least twice as much as I would if I used Cascade or Goldings at around 6 AA's. And in a pumpkin ale is even worse.:D

[cul8rv8]

Ok, let me put it this way, then. :) I have small amounts of several different varieties. So if I just put whatever I use at the same IBU level for the 60 minute addition, I won't really impart much of a different flavor, right? I've got Chinook 13 AA, Galena 12, Cascade 5.5, Fuggles 4.5, Northern Brewer 9, and Sterling 7.5, then the Saaz and Hallertauer. At least, according to BeerSmith, since I'm at work I can't verify. All at around an ounce except the Fuggles. I only mentioned using the Saaz because I have the most of those.

[Mill Rat]

I'd avoid the Chinook, it can be "distinctive," even at 60 minutes. I've never used Galena so I can't comment, the rest are good options.

[vw addict]

I think the Fuggles or Northern Brewer would be a good choice. I agree Chinook would be a bad choice, even at a 60 minute boil it gives some strange flavors.

[beerking]

Many think that Galena gives a very harsh bitterness to the beer.

[corkybstewart]

I've been using Northern Brewer and Challenger for bittering lately, at least for recipes that I haven't set in stone.

[cul8rv8]

sounds like a good plan to me, I'll use the Northern Brewers. Thanks all.

[markaberrant]

I agree Chinook would be a bad choice, even at a 60 minute boil it gives some strange flavors.

Strange, as in deliciously strange?

[Vienna Lager]

Galena is one of the most widely used bittering hops by today's large brewers. It has replaced Cluster as the most common bittering hop. I have used Galena and it does not seem to impart a harsh bitterness but that is jmo.