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Cosmic Charlie
08-07-2008, 03:30 PM
Just searching around the web, I stopped on Beertown's Zymurgy site. It looks like the July/Aug issues has clone recipes for Russian River's Pliny the Elder Imperial IPA and Stone's Ruiniation IPA. I subscribe to BYO, and I believe I have both of these in old issues.

Does anyone know if there are differences in the clone recipes? I imagine its difficult to scale down commercial recipes, so it wouldn't be surprising to me. I would be interested in different takes on the malt bill and hop schedule.

Mad Scientist
08-08-2008, 10:25 AM
Post the Pliny recipe, I have one somewhere that I got form Vinny after I sent him an email.

Cosmic Charlie
08-08-2008, 01:27 PM
Will do. At work now - will post later.

markaberrant
08-08-2008, 03:47 PM
This is the standard Pliny homebrew recipe that regularly gets published:

http://www.ratebeer.com/Recipe.asp?RecipeID=84

I'm not at home right now, so I can't verify my issue of Zymurgy, but from what I recall when I read it a few weeks ago, it was the same recipe.

Cosmic Charlie
08-08-2008, 09:12 PM
That's pretty much whats in BYO. Same exact hop schedule, and only minor differences in the gain bill, possibly due to BYO's assumption of 65% efficiency. Their grain bill is:

12.2 lbs. Pale North American 2-row

1 lbs. Dextrose (aka corn sugar)

0.86 lb. Carapils (aka dextrin)

0.28 lb. Crystal 45L

Mad Scientist
08-09-2008, 09:20 AM
I just checked my emails, and what I have from Vinny are directions for the creation of Pliny the younger....

markaberrant
08-09-2008, 05:46 PM
I just checked my emails, and what I have from Vinny are directions for the creation of Pliny the younger....

Please share.