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Taliesin
12-11-2007, 10:47 AM
This past summer, my wife and I took the trip of our dreams to Scotland for 3 weeks! For me, the chance to talk to Scottish people and see where my family came from was only part of the lure. The other part was to taste some Scottish Ales. In this, I was both disappointed and pleased. I'll explain.

(Keep in mind that there are vast differences between the American concept of a Scotch Ale and an authentic Scotch Ale. I'll talk about this Real Ale culture in another post, but I wanted to make it known that I'm an American, used to large, robust beers. I definitely had to get used to what I tasted.)

The first ales I tried were ales that were commonly found...and there are none more commonly found than something like Caledonian's 80/- (80 Shilling.)

*** Caledonian's 80/- Ale ***
(Tried this first in the Logie Baird Bar in Edinburgh, and later in various places in the highlands.)

Aroma - This ale doesn't promise a whole lot in the nose. I could smell faint hop notes, and slight maltiness, but the lack of larger aromas made me wonder what it would deliver.

Mouthfeel - Every place I had this ale, I was unimpressed by the thin mouthfeel...slightly more in the mouth than water, but only just. I came to understand that a lot of the major brews in Scotland are like this. Tennent's Lager, some of the Belhaven Brews. I'm not pointing fingers, but explaining a difference between the Scottish Palate and the cultured American one. (I do not compare Tennent's to some of the mass-produced American lagers, which I do not like.) Anyway, the short of it is that this brew was watery everywhere I had it. It was also on Cask, I believe. Definitely a different experience, that.

Flavor - This was my first experience with a Scottish Ale brewed in Scotland for Scotland, and I must say that my first impressions were not my final impressions. When I first tried the 80/-, I found it flavorless, dull, tasting of little more than the water in it. However, the more I accustomed my palate to the subtleties of Scottish Ales, the more I found to appreciate it. This could have been due to what I was eating later in the trip, but I got sweet maltiness out of this beer, leaving a buttery taste and feel on my tongue. Little to no hop character, which is what you expect from a Scotch Ale.

Overall: Out of all the easily-found ales in Scotland, this one deserves its awards. I had it both kegged and casked, and I enjoyed the cask variety infinitely more, as I drove over the mountains from Stirling to Ft. William. It's definitely one of the reasons I want to go back to Scotland! (Plus, with people like the Scots there, who wouldn't love Scotland??)

I'll post more notes about Scottish Ales as I get them completed. :)

Anyone else feel free to post their notes on ales in Scotland...especially if you have comparison notes on the Caledonian 80/-.

Mar sin leibh!

MeridianFC
12-11-2007, 08:34 PM
I've heard 80/- called many things but watery is not one of them. In your background you note something that might be at issue. If you're used to the current trend in American craft brewing (Imperial this, 100+ IBUs, 6-10%abv, etc.) than 4.0% cask ale is going to seem rather timid stuff.

Specifically with 80/- I wouldn't expect much but a hint of malt in the nose, as is normal for most traditional Scottish ales (as opposed to American ales that have Scottish in their names). Slightly smokey, malty, even buttery flavors would be right. Hops should be an afterthought, what with the noble flower not being indigenous to the land north of Hadrian masonry work.

Scotland has a few really top notch breweries going, maybe not near the number down south, but more than enough producting great cask ale. There's even some great specialty stuff (Traquiair House).

Amongst my favorite Scottish producers:

Cairngorm
Harviestoun (world beaters)
Caledonian
Broughton
Houston
Williams Brothers/Heather Ale Co.
Arran
Orkney
Islay Brewing
and I even still like Belhaven

Taliesin
12-11-2007, 08:49 PM
I mentioned what I was accustomed to specifically for that reason. I am definitely more used to microbrews...specifically those found on the West Coast. I could have phrased it better.

I am highly accustomed to "big beers". When I went to Scotland, I was startled by the subtle flavors. But Caledonian 80/- definitely seemed watery to me.

I also didn't convey my change of heart throughout my trip very well. My apologies. I grew accustomed to the more subtle flavors, and redefined my definition of Scottish Ale in my travels.

I went to the Black Isle Brewery and the Fyne Ales brewery, and really enjoyed talking with the brewmasters there. I had a great deal of fun, and will get into those experiences a little more later. :)

The Alchemist
12-12-2007, 04:06 PM
I really enjoyed reading about your travels to Scotland. I'll look forward to hearing more about your trip. My family name is of British Isles origin and I have personally always enjoyed Scotch Ales. While many are not enamored with McEwan's Scotch Ale, I have always enjoyed it and Traquair House ales are wonderful.

ratman03
12-14-2007, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Taliesin
I also didn't convey my change of heart throughout my trip very well. My apologies. I grew accustomed to the more subtle flavors, and redefined my definition of Scottish Ale in my travels.

Good man, way to keep an open mind. Too many people get hung up on what they like, and pan anything else that doesn't fit their definition of it.

There is something to palate adjustment, though, and sometimes you have to work a little bit to gain appreciation for a new taste. Fortunately, enjoying fine beer can hardly be considered work. :)

Taliesin
12-14-2007, 04:37 PM
The other thing about Scottish Ales was the VAST difference I discovered between cask and kegged ales. I tried some cask ales and, of course, they seemed a little flat to me. However, it was at that point that I realized the vast superiority to drinking the subtle ales from a cask!

The carbonation masks so many of the good flavors that true Scottish Ale has to offer! The buttery flavor that I was so amazed at, for one. I was consistently pleased (once I learned to appreciate it) just how rich (if not HUGE) these ales were. I'm going to strive to create some of the same flavors in my homebrew.