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chazwicke
11-12-2003, 12:39 PM
There is an awful lot of wisdom and experience on this board. I learn new things daily from you all. I was just wondering what the average age of our community here is. I'm 46.

paul84043
11-12-2003, 12:41 PM
I just turned 36, but this morning I felt 56...

Jeff
11-12-2003, 01:13 PM
Fret, if you are a pup at 36, I don't know what that makes me, I'm 24.

Payson
11-12-2003, 01:24 PM
I'm 36 yrs young!

barley ben
11-12-2003, 01:38 PM
26 years old. Is it time to retire yet?

hops99
11-12-2003, 01:43 PM
33 - and no Rolling Rock jokes, please....

bigmf
11-12-2003, 01:56 PM
34.

M

steveh
11-12-2003, 02:28 PM
Geez Chaz, you an' me! 43.

Just remember you punks, age and treachery win out over youth and skill every time! ;)

S.

Wilson
11-12-2003, 02:32 PM
27, and remember age is a state of mind. ;)

b3s
11-12-2003, 02:37 PM
blue! no! yellow! AAAaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!

heh, sorry ;)

i'll claim 36.

brewmonkey
11-12-2003, 03:24 PM
What is the average air speed velocity of an un-laden swallow?

I am 33, but I refuse to act my age.

Fast_Eddy
11-12-2003, 03:24 PM
According to the date on my drivers' license I'm 33.

atxf4i
11-12-2003, 03:28 PM
Happy B day Paul!

You can't trust me, but I'm 30.

threecb
11-12-2003, 03:41 PM
been too busy to count for the past couple of days,
but i'll weigh in at 37. a young 37. whatever that means...

skahtboi
11-12-2003, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by steveh
Geez Chaz, you an' me! 43.

Just remember you punks, age and treachery win out over youth and skill every time! ;)

S.

Add me to that list!! 44 here!

Originally posted by brewmonkey
What is the average air speed velocity of an un-laden swallow?


Ummm..brewmonkey...African or European?

BREWERDLUX
11-12-2003, 05:44 PM
Knocking with a big hammer on 40... Few months away.......

wortchillergoal
11-12-2003, 06:00 PM
I guess I am in the upper class at 44. Those of you under thirty i would say still stink of milk, but you seem to know a fair amount about beer to your credit.

Brownbeard
11-12-2003, 06:30 PM
30 years here. I look like I'm 40 though. Most people think my dad is my older brother, and he has grey hair.

Stodbrew
11-12-2003, 06:44 PM
I'm 32.

b3s
11-12-2003, 07:12 PM
heh....well at least i have the heart of a child...in a jar...on my desk

:D

thank you, stephen king!

Beaver
11-13-2003, 12:41 AM
30 soon to be 31.

fidcastro
11-13-2003, 01:30 AM
26 here. According to Michael Jackson I still have another 10 years or so before I can "truly" enjoy the complex nuances of my favorite beverages.

Fid

ray m
11-13-2003, 02:07 AM
37....but I feel a lot older sometimes..like 38:D

Theakston
11-13-2003, 09:39 AM
Jeez- - oldest so far. 48. Come on someone....Richard maybe...

I still manage to whip some of you 20-30 somethings when I run the marathon though, but then there's always some 60 year old geezer faster than me before I can get too cocky.

newportstorm
11-13-2003, 10:04 AM
29. Though I'm considering a deal with the devil (much like the loggers of Maudite) to never age. <cue evil laugh> :D

Cheers!

shaken
11-13-2003, 10:45 AM
WOOOHOOO!!

51

fretlessman71
11-13-2003, 11:10 AM
"Shaken"? You get tremors at that age? ;)

Just Kidding... btw, welcome! You can be one of the elder statesman along with Richard English, who I seem to recall is in his 50's or 60's. Always good to have the ultra experienced among us. Your expertise will soon become legendary, I'm sure!

mmmBeer...
11-13-2003, 11:38 AM
33 here...but I usually feel and act like I am in my mid 20's...and pay for it!

Theakston
11-13-2003, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by shaken
WOOOHOOO!!

51


Thanks. Don't feel so bad now!:D

chazwicke
11-13-2003, 12:01 PM
So far the average age is:

35.62962962962962962962962962963

threecb
11-13-2003, 12:13 PM
phew! i'm above average!

and, chazwicke, 400, WTG!

fretlessman71
11-13-2003, 12:42 PM
And congrats to you, threecb, on your 200th!

chazwicke
11-13-2003, 12:57 PM
Congrats, Threecb, and thanks!

studentofbeer
11-13-2003, 01:13 PM
22. despite being 6'5" i still get carded a lot :-/

MmmBeer
11-13-2003, 01:21 PM
23 years old. I feel older though. School is adding years every day!

hopjack13
11-13-2003, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by brewmonkey
What is the average air speed velocity of an un-laden swallow?


opposed to what ? a laden swallow? he he he..
had to look that one up but it's 40-50 mph. he he he

uh 28 or 29 here i think....maybe 29 i lost track. owe, don't wana think about it. my wife is 25 and gives me a hard time about pushing 30...ouch i cant be pushing 30 I JUST TURNED 21! :eek:

threecb
11-13-2003, 02:48 PM
fret and chaz, thanks for the wishes!
now I feel like an oldtimer;) !

and student, you spend your 20s wishing they'd stop carding,
and you're 30s wishing they would!

Brewdepest
11-13-2003, 05:44 PM
I'm 23 and I appreciate every time I get carded...I get offended if I'm not! I'm too young for that yet!

Jeff
11-13-2003, 06:08 PM
Brewdepest, finally somebody younger than me, I was starting to think I was the baby around here. I too like getting carded, I have always looked old for my age and the first time I went to legally buy beer I wasn't even carded. Really pissed me off that I could have been buying beer all along.

ron
11-14-2003, 10:48 AM
33

studentofbeer
11-14-2003, 10:57 AM
im still younger at 22! the only time I get annoyed is when i get carded is when i go into goose island and order a beer, the bartender asks for my ID and I pull out my MBA (master of beer appreciation, which equals > 35 drafts consumed), and they go oh! and then i give them my drivers license and they just sorta glance and then give me my beer. More funny than anything else i guess.

The one time it REALLY annoyed me when i got carded was this local liquor store near my school (a store i bought a 1.5L of johnny walker red at when i was 18 without getting carded, blech what was i thinking?)-- I give them my ID (CA license in IL), and they ponder over it and ask me what my street is. I tell them. They go east or west. I go, there is no east or west! WTF! the especially weird thing is i was with my two friends, both who look younger, and they didnt even card them. it was strange.

Jeff, that's always the way the first time you can legally buy beer, hehe. happened to myself and one of my roommates. Its like a tradition. I wanted to get carded so they could say happy birthday and maybe give me a round on the house!

Richard English
11-14-2003, 01:07 PM
I am just catching up after two hectic conventions - that of the Association of British Travel Agents in Palma and of the Professional Speakers Association in Warwick.

Of the two I think that ABTA's was the more hectic since many people didn't go to bed (although I was always in bed by 0400 at the latest). The few of the PSA's delegates satyed up much past 0200.

So I'm in a catch up situation right now.

Oh. what was the question again?

How old am I? I really can't remember (that's old age for you) but I was born during the Second Wold War, in 1942.

Bryant
11-15-2003, 02:38 AM
Well I am the "average age here. I am 35, though I look about 28 >:P~ (long hair covering those fine eye lines helps)


Bryant

L.H.H.H.Brown
11-15-2003, 10:22 AM
42
I believe the swallow question was supposed to be responded by "African or European swallow"? And now for something completely different ......

paul84043
11-15-2003, 11:26 AM
I gave up trying to reclaim the glory of my high school days when I was about 30 and I could never bring myself to do a doo-lop (comb over).

My theory is that you are allotted a finite amount of hair follicles and as they begin to grow on your back, out of your nose and ears, and pretty much everywhere elso on your body that you never wanted hair to grow, they are taken from the top of your head first....:(
At least I'm 6'4" and there are only a few people that can even see my bald spot on a regular basis.

Richard English
11-15-2003, 11:39 AM
Aren't they the same thing?

brewmonkey
11-15-2003, 01:45 PM
You silly English pig dogs!

kevin
11-15-2003, 02:58 PM
21 years younger than Sir Richard

fretlessman71
11-15-2003, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by paul84043
I gave up trying to reclaim the glory of my high school days when I was about 30 and I could never bring myself to do a doo-lop (comb over).

My theory is that you are allotted a finite amount of hair follicles and as they begin to grow on your back, out of your nose and ears, and pretty much everywhere elso on your body that you never wanted hair to grow, they are taken from the top of your head first....

I don't think your theory flies... if true, then I'm going to have to grow some new skin somewhere - I'm already covered head to toe in hair!

No comb overs for me... my long hair comes from the front, covers my bald(ing) spot, and reaches to the small of my back. ;)

jsmurphy
11-15-2003, 03:09 PM
I'm 41.

SoxyinMO
11-15-2003, 09:38 PM
f-f-forty-six in 8 days.

The only time I was carded I was 32, and with grey hair, most people didn't bother. But one guy and I were laughing about Cenci Cream Ale and their motto : Who wants the handsome waiter? and he actually LOOKED at me, saw I was younger than the hair suggested, and asked for the ID. Now my hair's nearly white and I think everyone figures I'm Mrs. Claus out buying beer for Santa. And of course you can trust Mrs. Claus.

davesarman
11-16-2003, 08:05 AM
Just turned 35 last week. I'm trying to remember at what age it was where I changed from being angry that I got carded to taking it as a complement.....

stronk
11-17-2003, 09:43 AM
17. But, then again, I am English; we get going slightly younger than you.

I never usually have trouble with ID (I suppose America's going to be a shock during my gap year, next year).

Richard English
11-17-2003, 09:57 AM
Quote "...I never usually have trouble with ID (I suppose America's going to be a shock during my gap year, next year)...."

I'd be inclined to change my destination if I were you. A whole year without beer - it's not even worth going to the USA for that purgatory. And after all, there are many other fine and interesting countries, most of which have a more liberal regime - Canada, to name just one, where the minimum age for drinking in a bar is 18 or 19 (depending on the province)

stronk
11-17-2003, 10:08 AM
That's fantastic news! I had assumed Canada would have similar laws to the USA, and was still planning to go there. I'm quite keen (now that I won't have to be dry for a couple of months) to try some of these American and Canadian micro-brewed beers. Surely nothing can be better than Morland's Old Speckled Hen ;)...

fretlessman71
11-17-2003, 10:20 AM
...now, if you made your OWN, you wouldn't have to worry about getting carded, would you? Just a thought... :)

Richard English
11-17-2003, 10:22 AM
Surprising how many people assume that, which is strange considering that Canada is actually part of the British Commonwealth and our Queen is also the Queen of Canada! Canada is no more part of the USA than is Mexico. They just happen to occupy the same continental land mass.

In Mexico, of course, there are very few restrictions on drinking, and, if there's an age limit I've never been able to find out what it is. Sadly Mexican beer is rubbish!

Morlands OSH is not a bad beer but to my own mind there are plenty better, even in the USA. Try some of Chicago's Goose Island (you can get it, bottled, of course in Safeway). A superb beer if you like hoppiness.

Richard English
11-17-2003, 10:46 AM
Quote "......now, if you made your OWN, you wouldn't have to worry about getting carded, would you? Just a thought... ..."

There is a reasonably strong home-brew movement in the UK but it is in parallel with, not a substitute for, pub drinking. Going to the pub is a very important part of British life and is a completely different experience from that of going to a bar in the USA. Those who have been to the UK will know what I mean; those who have not will not understand and no amount of explanation will help - but just believe me. So, when we go to other countries, we expect to "go for a drink".

We don't normally buy beer (or make beer) and take it home just to drink - although we would (and do) buy wine (or sometimes beer) and take it home to go with a meal.

b3s
11-17-2003, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by fretlessman71
...now, if you made your OWN, you wouldn't have to worry about getting carded, would you? Just a thought... :)

they card you at homebrew stores, too, fret...it's just as illegal to sell (i can't say minor...cuz that's untrue) an adult who is under the legal drinking age supplies to make beer as it is to sell them the actual beer.

Richard English
11-17-2003, 11:36 AM
Quote "...they card you at homebrew stores, too, fret...it's just as illegal to sell (i can't say minor...cuz that's untrue) an adult who is under the legal drinking age supplies to make beer as it is to sell them the actual beer..."

So that's what they mean by "The Land of the Free"...!

Seriously, this whole issue is based on a misconception. Statistics will quickly reveal (even if the memory of Prohibition apparently does not) that alcohol abuse is not controlled by restriction - indeed, the reverse is probably the case.

You will know better than I, but it is my impression that drunkenness amongst students in the USA is very common - yet most of them must be too young legally to buy alcohol.

Payson
11-17-2003, 11:43 AM
Richard-
You are correct in your assumption regarding college students/age/and inebriation!. Welcome to the wonderful world of "blue laws".

studentofbeer
11-17-2003, 11:49 AM
morland old speckled hen.... i remember that being perhaps the only beer i tried on my trip to the UK that I didn't like. i dont remember quite what it was (maybe the pub just had a bad line that gave it an off taste?) or does this brew have a unique flavor that could be offputting? This was 3 years ago so my tastes have changed/improved, but Ive been too timid to purchase a can of it and revist what exactly i disliked.

now ive ordered homebrew supplies off the internet and was never "carded." Maybe they check your birthday from the credit card company? Made me mad, b/c would have been a great way to get beer freshman year in college (tho im not sure the dorm kitchens would have had sufficient room to really make a go of it.) Still, Im sure it would have been the talk of the dorm. If they are more lax about selling supplies online, seems like a good way to learn about beer and drink some too! I do think its funny tho that things like malted barley, yeast and hops could be considered "contraband" items. Its a couple of regular old plant products and a single-celled organism for goodness sakes.

Richard English
11-17-2003, 11:56 AM
Quote "...morland old speckled hen.... i remember that being perhaps the only beer i tried on my trip to the UK that I didn't like..."

It's normally a perfectly acceptable beer and, if you had a pint that was off, then you would have been quite within your rights to return it. Remember, cask-conditioned beers have a very short lifespan and it's not uncommon to get a bad pint in a pub that doesn't turn over much beer and where the cellarman is not up to the job.

Morlands have promoted OSH as their flagship brand and it is available throughout much of the UK. Generally speaking, beers that you can buy anywhere will be safe but not exciting since they tend to be brewed to suit the palate of as many people as possible.

stronk
11-17-2003, 12:15 PM
Don't get a can of it, get a bottle. I have high hopes of Hen's Tooth, given all the above (and that I like OSH).

Richard English
11-17-2003, 12:24 PM
Bottled Hen's Tooth is bottled conditioned, as opposed to bottled Old Speckled Hen. which is not. The BCA is always better.

As I have said previously, a good bottled beer beats a good canned beer any time. I have never drunk an exceptional canned beer and the finest beers are not supplied that way; there's no such thing as a canned Fuller's 1845, for instance.

chazwicke
11-17-2003, 01:05 PM
The OSH is available in the USA in the widget cans. I was under the assumption that Moreland's was now owned by Greene King. I have had cask OSH and enjoyed it. But I really like Abbot Ale from Greene King. I believe that the brewery in Bury St. Edmunds in Suffolk was the first British Brewery that I ever visited. I went because I was able to get Abbot Ale in the states back in the mid-eighties. We still can get it now in bottles or widget cans. The First Scottish brewery was either Traquair or a brewpub called The Rose I believe in Edinborough. Can't remember. It was a long time and many breweries ago. (Glenfiddich was the first distillery.)

Richard English
11-17-2003, 01:18 PM
Morlands is, indeed, owned by Greene King although I first tried and enjoyed it at the Argyll in Henley-on -Thames (one of the only two pubs in Henley that weren't Brakespear houses).

Widget cans do not provide a substitutre for cask-conditioned ale although many are under impression they do. Thye are a reasonable replica of the "smoothflow" beers like John Smiths and, if your taste runs to those, rather bland, drinks, then by all means buy a widget can.

If you prefer the full and complex taste that only a developed secondary fermentation can provide, then eschew cans of any sort and stick to cask-conditioned or bottled-conditioned beers.

chazwicke
11-17-2003, 01:28 PM
You know I feel that way Richard! But , I have to live with the fact that we have limited real ale here. We are starting to get many more bottled conditioned beers here from the UK now. For instance I had A Dorothy Goodbody Our Glass Ale yesterday. A pleasant, although strong, 6%, beer. I will hazard to guess that we probably have 50 or so bottled beers from the UK available. Not all are bottle conditioned though. I may try to compile a list. Thank god there is Coniston Bluebird. My current favorite as you can see by my avitar.

Richard English
11-17-2003, 03:28 PM
Coniston Bluebird is an excellent pint and it's also a better session beer than some since it's only around 4.3%. Many BCAs are 6% upwards.

Herb Ninja
11-17-2003, 07:17 PM
So that's what they mean by "The Land of the Free"...!

Seriously, this whole issue is based on a misconception. Statistics will quickly reveal (even if the memory of Prohibition apparently does not) that alcohol abuse is not controlled by restriction - indeed, the reverse is probably the case.



Yep. Ohh and America is not the land of the free. Thats such a big lie. War on drugs, war on terror, illegal income taxes, highest prison population, laws on almost everything. I felt more free in Europe then I ever did in America. The freedom to own guns though, thats about the one thing we have, not much and even that freedom is fading away. 21 to drink alcohol, bah, its 16 in belgium, I saw beer in soda machines and I never saw one kid drinking. In the states, most kids would sell their soul for a couple shots of cheap spirits/hard alcohol. Prohibition doesn't work, with alcohol, or marijuana, or any drug. The war on drugs is a failure, and it will never be won without the total destruction of mankind. Its not the governments role to tell us what we can and can't do to our own bodies anyway. ugh... Peace, HN-

Tweek
11-17-2003, 07:31 PM
All countries have there problems. Comparatively America is one of the most free it not the most. I suggest you go back to Europe where you feel more comfortable.

Herb Ninja
11-17-2003, 09:17 PM
I suggest you go back to Europe where you feel more comfortable.

uhh... I didn't say I feel more comfortable, I felt more free, trust me the weather here in Hawaii is allot more comfortable.

fretlessman71
11-17-2003, 10:04 PM
...yeah, but THINK OF THE BEER you could drink every single frickin' day....:D

Relax, folks. Please?

fretlessman71
11-18-2003, 02:47 AM
Originally posted by b3s
they card you at homebrew stores, too, fret...it's just as illegal to sell (i can't say minor...cuz that's untrue) an adult who is under the legal drinking age supplies to make beer as it is to sell them the actual beer.

Not that it really matters, but just for the record, I thought I'd share this with you: Went to a liquor store tonight to buy my beer kit (True Brew Porter). Left my ID at HOME like a frickin' moron. Went to the register, looked up, saw a sign that said "We I.D. anyone wishing to make a purchase from this establishment. We regret any inconvienence this may cause." Said to myself, "I'm done for." Put my kit down on the counter, got rang up, handed the man my money, got a reciept, LEFT.

Leave it to Tennessee, man... what a bassackwards place!

"If I had a wagon I would -- GOOO to Colorado -- GOOO to Colorado....":D

Summer
01-12-2004, 07:53 AM
I'm 27 (pretty soon 28)

J.

Richard English
01-12-2004, 07:56 AM
Summer. Are the drinking laws in Finland as draconian as those in Sweden?

Summer
01-12-2004, 08:32 AM
Richard, I don't understand what you mean? Sorry!! Draconian?

J.

Richard English
01-12-2004, 08:53 AM
Draconian = Very harsh and severe (from Drakon, an early Greek legislator whose laws were said to be thus).

brewmonkey
01-12-2004, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by b3s
they card you at homebrew stores, too, fret...it's just as illegal to sell (i can't say minor...cuz that's untrue) an adult who is under the legal drinking age supplies to make beer as it is to sell them the actual beer.

I guess this would depend on the state your in? The prosecuter would be hard pressed to make a case. It might be that some owners of LHBS are trying to cover their 6's by carding.

That is like the sign we had at one time asking you to check your firearms at the door. It is not illegal to open carry in this state, but if something were to happen on your property it could lead to liability issues (but only because this is the land of the free to sue anyone for any reason).

unkle bik
01-12-2004, 11:02 AM
46.
Age is just a state of mind. You can be 24, but if you sit around on you ass complaining about everything, you might as well be 84.
I like Pete Townsend's idea:
"I hope I die before I get old." (which means the state of mind concept)

fretlessman71
01-12-2004, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by brewmonkey
I guess this would depend on the state your in? The prosecuter would be hard pressed to make a case. It might be that some owners of LHBS are trying to cover their 6's by carding.

That is like the sign we had at one time asking you to check your firearms at the door. It is not illegal to open carry in this state, but if something were to happen on your property it could lead to liability issues (but only because this is the land of the free to sue anyone for any reason).

Ah, the benefits of a free society... :p

Who was it who said, "Democracy is the worst form of government there is... except for all of the rest." (OK, probably nobody REALLY said it, but it's kinda true - even though this is a republic!)

S.F.B.
01-12-2004, 11:15 AM
I guess I missed this thread when it went around before. I was 39 when it started. I am 40 now.

MeridianFC
01-12-2004, 11:32 AM
36

Richard English
01-12-2004, 11:38 AM
"Democracy is the worst form of government except for all those others that have been tried"

Winston Churchill (who else?)

fretlessman71
01-12-2004, 11:45 AM
Well, Thomas Jefferson was famous for a lot of quotes like that... didn't want to be presumptous! ;) Thanks for the verification!

Summer
01-16-2004, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by Richard English
Summer. Are the drinking laws in Finland as draconian as those in Sweden?

I'm not sure about laws in Sweden. But in Finland you have to be 18 to buy alcohol. In liquor store you have to be 20 to buy hard liquor (over 22%) and mild ones you get at 18 (under 22%). In restaurant or pub you can buy anything at the age of 18. There is a monopoly of selling alcohol by Alko Oy, a liquor store owned by Finnish state. Alcohol drinks at 4,7% or lower can be sold almost anywhere (until 9pm), but over that only at Alko. And wines over 4,7% can be sold straight from the winerys. Pubs and restautants have 2 different kinds of licenses to sell alcohol. With A you can sell everything and with B you can sell mild alcohol under 22%. Most restaurants and pubs have A lincenses.

J.

chazwicke
01-16-2004, 07:22 PM
The Scandinavian countries are known for thier tough drinking and alcohol laws as well as thier lack of decent beers I am sorry to say. But I am glad there are those like Summer who seek out the better beers.

Richard English
01-17-2004, 04:29 AM
Quote "...The Scandinavian countries are known for thier tough drinking and alcohol laws as well as thier lack of decent beers ..."

And for their high rates of alcoholism! Sweden has the most draconian laws and the most alocolism as I understand it.

Strange, really, since history has many examples that can prove the truth of the fact that severe restrictions on the sale of alcohol do not reduce its abuse. In the USA during Prohibition, alcohol-related crime reached an all-time high!

Asahikun
01-17-2004, 05:50 AM
Richard,

I'm originally from Norway and they're pretty Draconian, too. I was only 5 when I left but I have been back many times and from what I can remember:
One age for beer and wine (18) and another for spirits (21). There's a common joke that you can come back from having fought in a war and celebrate the birth of your 2nd or 3rd child but you can't toast it with a scotch!
No alcohol sales on Sundays. When you go to an off-licence, it's like you're in a chemist - all the alcohol is behind the counter in glass cabinets and you have to ask for what you want.
Even though the clubs stay open till 1 or 2am, after about 12 they'll only serve you soft drinks.
There's a real "drinking is wrong" mentality in Norwegian society which, as has been proven time and again, only leads to more excessive consumption. Just look at the binge-drinking in England which I blame on the stupid 11 o' clock rule and look at the fact that cannabis consumption in Holland has actually decreased since decriminalisation. Will these stupid legislators never learn???

Richard English
01-17-2004, 06:16 AM
Quote "...Just look at the binge-drinking in England which I blame on the stupid 11 o' clock rule ..."

This is quite true and it goes back to the Defence of the Realm Act of 1917. The then Prime Minister, Lloyd George, had been convinced by his advisers that the munitions workers were getting so drunk in the afternoons that production was being affected. He introduced laws that restricted opening hours and, from 1917 until 1985, all pubs in England had to close in the afternoon.

The do-gooders tried very hard to block the repeal of that legislation with tales of perpetual drunkenness; fortunately they failed and now pubs can serve alcohol whenever they like between 1100 (1200 ON Sundays) and 2300. The only real change has been that there is now less drunkenness on the streets in the afternoon.

We still have the stupid 2300 closing but the change to that law was given Royal Assent last year and already pubs can apply to stay open longer. The permission to open is now in the hands of the local authorities who will take into account the needs of the neighbourhood when deciding if, and when, a pub should close. The Old Brewster Sessions, where the licence was decided by a Magistrate, have gone.

From the summer of 2004 it is likely that many pubs will choose to open later and that should get rid of the last-minute rush to chuck down as many as possible.

There is a pub I know that has always stayed open later than 2300 by the simple device of having a lock-in. At closing time the Landlord shuts the door and allows no more customers in. Those already in are "friends of the house" and can stay and continue to drink. This is one of the few pubs in the area (not an especially nice one) that has no bouncers (even on a Saturday night), no police patrolling the road outside, no drunkenness - and no trouble.

Incidentally, Lloyd George was a lifelong teetoller and a life-long serial adulterer. Had it been the other way round, then maybe it would have been the brothels that were forced to close in the afternoons while the pubs stayed open!

Asahikun
01-17-2004, 11:37 AM
Yes, I'd heard rumours about landlords being to able to apply for extended opening hours. I didn't, unfortunately, see much evidence of it being applied when I was in England in the summer. I remember when I was last out on a session in England, it was only the bar/clubs that were taking advantage of the new rules which meant that you paid through the nose for watered down what-was-already-watered-down beer. That was the case in my neck of the woods, anyway.
I remember a few good lock-ins in rural Yorkshire aout 10 years ago. They were great! And we got free sandwiches too. It almost feels like you're a child; hiding behind the curtains, just so you can drink a beer which you could, afterall, just go home and drink quite legally. Everyone stop the party and go home!!!

Richard English
01-17-2004, 12:03 PM
Although the law was given Royal Assent last year it was not expected to come into general use until summer 2004.

The actual legislation came about as a result of a vigorous campaign by, who else, CAMRA and there was much hard lobbying by their panel (including, guess who).

My own MP actually agreed with me so his vote was easy enough to get. However, it was a close-run thing and, of course, one of the most vociferous lobbies was - the publicans (who will now have to open the ir boozers when the customers want, not when the Law says they must).

Now pubs will have to behave like other businesses and open to conform to the dictats of market forces - and that will be interesting!

Asahikun
01-17-2004, 11:33 PM
Nice one Richard and, of course, CAMRA. That's good news for me since I will be moving back to England in April.
Just for contrast - actually this should really be in another thread, but I've started now....I'm currently in Japan and the laws are great. Bars can open and serve alcohol when they want. You can buy beer, sake and Japanese whiskey from vending machines until 11. The liquor stores close when they want to. If you run out of beer you can go to a convenience store which sell all kinds of alcohol 24 hours.
Interestingly I have been buying most of my beer from, of all places, 7-11. The reason is that the big 4 breweries have been brewing special beers that they only sell at convenience stores. Each convenience store has beer that you can't buy anywhere else. 7-ll has a great pilsner made by Sapporo and a nice stout made by Kirin. Not cheap but very good!
Looking forward to getting back to England for a much better selection and far more home brew supplies.

chazwicke
01-18-2004, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by unkle bik
46.
Age is just a state of mind. You can be 24, but if you sit around on you ass complaining about everything, you might as well be 84.
I like Pete Townsend's idea:
"I hope I die before I get old." (which means the state of mind concept)

Hey, I'm 46 and I still feel young. Well most of the time that is.

chazwicke
01-18-2004, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by Asahikun
Nice one Richard and, of course, CAMRA. That's good news for me since I will be moving back to England in April.
Just for contrast - actually this should really be in another thread, but I've started now....I'm currently in Japan and the laws are great. Bars can open and serve alcohol when they want. You can buy beer, sake and Japanese whiskey from vending machines until 11. The liquor stores close when they want to. If you run out of beer you can go to a convenience store which sell all kinds of alcohol 24 hours.
Interestingly I have been buying most of my beer from, of all places, 7-11. The reason is that the big 4 breweries have been brewing special beers that they only sell at convenience stores. Each convenience store has beer that you can't buy anywhere else. 7-ll has a great pilsner made by Sapporo and a nice stout made by Kirin. Not cheap but very good!
Looking forward to getting back to England for a much better selection and far more home brew supplies.

And the luscious cask ales!

crashbobo
01-18-2004, 10:36 PM
22 on Tuesday :)

fretlessman71
01-19-2004, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by chazwicke
Hey, I'm 46 and I still feel young. Well most of the time that is.

I'm 32; my back feels 52, my mind feels 42, my spirit feels 22. What does that say about me? ;)

Stodbrew
01-19-2004, 01:27 AM
I think it pretty much says you're normal. At least by my definition, as I am the same age as you, Fret.:D

Oldskoolvwlover
01-20-2004, 01:18 AM
Another one of the young one's here ....22.

fretlessman71
01-20-2004, 01:25 AM
Welcome Bug Man! I don't think there's a bad one among us here. Drop in whenever you want to!

chazwicke
01-20-2004, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by Oldskoolvwlover
Another one of the young one's here ....22.

Welcome aboard! Ther are several 22 ers on this board.

studentofbeer
01-20-2004, 02:58 PM
yay 22ers!

crashbobo
01-20-2004, 04:17 PM
22 today...just finished a pint of stout.

My friends asked me where I wanted to go tonight to party. I told them anywhere with Real Beer

Gonna have to spread the gospel to all my college buddies who still drink sewage :)

chazwicke
01-20-2004, 04:19 PM
Hey Happy Birthday! Enjoy the day and enjoy the real beer.

BrewDog
10-27-2005, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by threecb
phew! i'm above average!

and, chazwicke, 400, WTG!

This post on the top of page 3 of this thread made me laugh out loud. I think he's up to 400 a WEEK now!

And, BTW, to stay on topic, as I write this I'm 41 pushing 42.

HogieWan
10-27-2005, 10:32 PM
As the last post before this was resurrected was almost a year before I became a member, I have yet to read this. On my skimming through I noticed the congrats for 400 to chaz and also laughed out loud.

Oh - I'm 24

GooseIslandFan
10-27-2005, 11:18 PM
Another 24 year old here.

steveh
10-28-2005, 12:26 AM
Man, who dug up this two year old thread?

I've been posting here THAT long? Yikes!!

S.

BrewDog
10-28-2005, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by steveh
Man, who dug up this two year old thread?

I've been posting here THAT long? Yikes!!

S.

I'm guilty. I saw in this thread on the 3rd page a 'congrats - chaz hit 400' msg. I thought that was funny.

steveh
10-28-2005, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by BrewDog
I'm guilty.

Not a punishable offense at all, just scary to know that I've been hanging out here for almost 3 years! I can't imagine all the beer!

S.

fretlessman71
10-28-2005, 02:37 AM
Bet your triglycerides can... ;)

steveh
10-28-2005, 08:53 AM
My 36 waist Lee's aren't reminding me - I need to get some 32s! ;)

S.

I'mRocketMan
10-28-2005, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by fretlessman71
I don't think your theory flies... if true, then I'm going to have to grow some new skin somewhere - I'm already covered head to toe in hair!

No comb overs for me... my long hair comes from the front, covers my bald(ing) spot, and reaches to the small of my back. ;)

MY long hair is pulled back and is to the middle of my back (for the second time!)

BTW, I'm 47!

I'mRocketMan
10-28-2005, 09:56 AM
There is a pub I know that has always stayed open later than 2300 by the simple device of having a lock-in. At closing time the Landlord shuts the door and allows no more customers in. Those already in are "friends of the house" and can stay and continue to drink. This is one of the few pubs in the area (not an especially nice one) that has no bouncers (even on a Saturday night), no police patrolling the road outside, no drunkenness - and no trouble.

My wife and I stayed with the publicans at the King's Head in Holmbury St. Mary, Surrey for a week a couple of summers ago. It was a grand experience and I truly loved the 'family' feel there! Almost all of the customers were fun and/or interesting! Then, when 2300 rolled around, I became "Uncle John"! :)

I really wish I could get back there!

neelyjr1
10-28-2005, 11:33 AM
25 years old legally, but I have been told I have the maturity of a 16 year old.

chazwicke
10-28-2005, 11:44 AM
In three days I'll be 48! :eek:

hopjack13
10-28-2005, 11:49 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHAZ!!!!

in three days :D

gallowd7
10-28-2005, 12:23 PM
In three days I'll still be 35 and still wearing my 32's!

xtalman
10-28-2005, 12:56 PM
Seems to be a good age spread here.
I am 44 and feel younger, working at a university helps and have been told I can act younger then my daughter who is four. :D

bruin_ale
10-28-2005, 01:21 PM
I didn't notice how old the thread was until I saw the congrats to Chaz for 400 posts..had a good chuckle at that. Then I was thinking that when I post my age I should subtract 2 years so as to keep things in scale with the beginning of the thread.. but I won't.. I'm 26.

apostles03
10-28-2005, 08:09 PM
I'm 42, but I still hear that same 16 year old kid inside my head.

Bilbo Beergins
10-29-2005, 07:29 AM
I'm 29...I've celebrated that anniversary 32 times (remember, 29 is zero year, don't make me out to be any older than I am).

"Old is anyone 15 years older than me."

chazwicke
10-29-2005, 10:38 AM
Never trust anyone over 30.

Seymour
10-29-2005, 01:15 PM
Old age and treachery will win out over youth and experience every time.

I think that's how the saying goes. And if 29 is zero year, my 12th anniversary of being 29 is coming up.

steveh
10-29-2005, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by Seymour
Old age and treachery will win out over youth and experience every time.

Experience and treachery will win out over youth and skill every time. ;)

S.

Seymour
10-29-2005, 01:55 PM
Thanks. I'll just shuffle back to my rocking chair in the corner now and click my dentures:rolleyes: . When does Alzheimer's hit again, exactly?

Bilbo Beergins
10-29-2005, 06:53 PM
Wait, wait, I know...I-I-forgot...

Otis_The_Drunk
10-29-2005, 08:38 PM
Just turned 43 October 20.

SoxyinMO
10-29-2005, 08:52 PM
In three days I'll be 48!

Right behind you, Chaz! 25 days and counting :D

Beer Monkey
10-29-2005, 09:59 PM
I'm 30, but enjoying beer and how much there is to know about it more and more, great thing about finding a board like this is all the knowledge thats right at your finger tips, the great people helps alot too.

Cheers

and a happy early Birthday Chaz

chazwicke
10-30-2005, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by Otis_The_Drunk
Just turned 43 October 20.

Happy Birthday!

chazwicke
10-30-2005, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by Beer Monkey


and a happy early Birthday Chaz


THANKS! I tell my wife that that Morrissey song was written about me. "November Spawned A Monster":D

chazwicke
10-30-2005, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by SoxyinMO
Right behind you, Chaz! 25 days and counting



I remember you said that before. Nov. 1957 was a very good month and year. ;)

Otis_The_Drunk
10-30-2005, 11:35 AM
Thanks Chaz.

onthesly
10-31-2005, 01:41 PM
24 here. Learned about Moose Drool behind the bleachers at Daylis Stadium. :)

bruin_ale
10-31-2005, 01:54 PM
Just had my first 6er of moose drool not too long ago. Good stuff!

fretlessman71
10-31-2005, 02:07 PM
We just started getting Big Sky stuff in CO. I have a glass AND an aluminium bottle of MD in the fridge waiting for me to give it a proper taste test comparison. :)

bruin_ale
10-31-2005, 02:14 PM
I could only find the glass bottles out here. I've been wanting to find some good beer in cans lately - what with all the talk about it on this board. Not to mention, no glass allowed at the beach, but cans are ok.

fretlessman71
10-31-2005, 02:30 PM
Dale's Pale Ale and Old Chub from Oskar Blues, Paulaner Original Munich, and the aforementioned Big Sky products all come in aluminium and all are worth drinking. Happy hunting. :)

corkybstewart
10-31-2005, 04:20 PM
I guess I'm one of the old farts at damn near 49.

Teej
10-31-2005, 07:14 PM
36 here.

Mostly signed up to bounce some ideas around in the homebrew section, but anywhere I can go to expand my beer knowledge is a good place.

Beer Monkey
11-02-2005, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by bruin_ale
Just had my first 6er of moose drool not too long ago. Good stuff!

haven't had any of that stuff in a couple years, last time I did was in montana on a fishing trip with my dad, heres some pics from that trip too


it's sitting right in front of old Faithful, couple minutes later it went off


hmmm won't let me insert link to picture.... o welll

Jinja
11-09-2005, 08:16 PM
Happy Birthday Chaz! I'll be 33 in 13 days!

Love, love, love the Moose Drool.

Okay that is weird to write.

Jinja Out

chazwicke
11-09-2005, 08:47 PM
Thanks! I turned 48 on the First.

I'mRocketMan
11-10-2005, 09:37 AM
We're not OLD, we're EXPERIENCED!! :D

Rocket

HarkJohnny
11-10-2005, 12:06 PM
will be 29 on Dec 29 of 05

Bilbo Beergins
11-12-2005, 05:56 PM
Slower on the draw, surer on the aim...

BluesHarp
11-12-2005, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by Bilbo Beergins
Slower on the draw, surer on the aim...
well said!!

I'm not as good as I once was, but I'm better once than I ever was...;)

Lusitano
11-22-2005, 06:25 PM
29

fretlessman71
11-22-2005, 11:03 PM
Welcome to the board, Lusitano! Find the Realbeer map thread and sign if you haven't already. :)

Dextolen
11-23-2005, 07:32 AM
36

And I've learned that age doesn't make you feel old, kids do.

SoxyinMO
11-23-2005, 05:56 PM
And I've learned that age doesn't make you feel old, kids do.

Ugh! The triple whammy :
1. Your kids.
2. The 15 year old major leaguers.
3. The 12 year old cops.

Grog
11-23-2005, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by SoxyinMO
Ugh! The triple whammy :
1. Your kids.
2. The 15 year old major leaguers.
3. The 12 year old cops.

Don't forget those 16 year old doctors :eek:

Jake
11-23-2005, 08:25 PM
41 at this moment. Will be 42 12/6

chazwicke
11-23-2005, 10:09 PM
12 / 6 is Samischlaus day!

ontap78
11-24-2005, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by chazwicke
12 / 6 is Samischlaus day! That almost sounds like Santa Claus. Oh by the way, I'm 45 for now.

oshea3333
11-24-2005, 01:41 AM
im a ripe old 25

fretlessman71
11-24-2005, 03:28 AM
Originally posted by ontap78
That almost sounds like Santa Claus. Oh by the way, I'm 45 for now. As I understand it, "Samichlaus" directly translates to "Santa Claus".

Didja start looking at the Speed Limit 45 signs a little differently upon your last birthday? ;)

ontap78
11-24-2005, 12:18 PM
I just get on the freeway and look forward to 70 and forget about 45.

SoxyinMO
11-25-2005, 11:31 PM
Don't forget those 16 year old doctors


:D

fretlessman71
11-26-2005, 04:15 PM
Don't tell me it's enough to make you a hypochondriac, soxy... "Ooh, Doc, I've got this... pain....." ;)

SoxyinMO
11-27-2005, 09:39 AM
Yeah, that's me...Of course I always seem to end up with women doctors :(

Ill hophead
11-27-2005, 07:03 PM
I'm 27, 28 in a few months. Although I still feel like I'm 23...

Happy golden birthday this year HarkJohnny!

gone_fishing
11-27-2005, 08:14 PM
Well, err....I'm older than all of ya. 56

Beermaker
12-01-2005, 03:23 AM
Will be 37 Dec 27th. Brewing for 10 years.

topgun3208
12-02-2005, 09:49 PM
this is my first post here, and I have to say I have been checking out some other sites and everyone here seems to know their beers. I have been checking out the posts for a few months now and decided to join. 48 yo here :eek:

Ill hophead
12-02-2005, 10:14 PM
Welcome to the boards topgun. You're right, everyone here does know their beers and can answer most any question you might have about beer and homebrewing, among other things.

topgun3208
12-02-2005, 10:22 PM
thanks so much Hop, I appreciate that :)

fretlessman71
12-03-2005, 02:13 AM
Welcome topgun! Yeah, most of us are pretty knowledgeable... but what I like about this board is that everyone is NICE. No flame wars here. :)

topgun3208
12-03-2005, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by fretlessman71
Welcome topgun! Yeah, most of us are pretty knowledgeable... but what I like about this board is that everyone is NICE. No flame wars here. :)

Thanks Fret. I used to be heavy into the chatrooms years ago and there were always a bad apple in every bunch there. Got tired of that and moved on. I like the boards nowadays to pick up valuable tips and such. I belong to a site for ford truck owners, very knowledgeable folks there as well and a few other smaller ones.

gone_fishing
12-03-2005, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by Ill hophead
Welcome to the boards topgun. You're right, everyone here does know their beers and can answer most any question you might have about beer and homebrewing, among other things.

Well, not every one knows their beers.... me for example... I don't know diddly! BUT, I like this board because all the guys that DO know beer are very friendly and helpful to those of us who are trying to learn the craft. And to all those who have answered my many questions...thanks!

chazwicke
12-03-2005, 09:19 PM
Hey Top Gun, Welcome. Where is Sparrows Point? Always glad to see another Mid Atlanticer here. And one that is my age too.

topgun3208
12-04-2005, 10:11 AM
Hello Chaz, thanks for the welcome. Sparrows Point is mostly known for being a neighbor of the Bethlehem steel corp. just outside Dundalk. If you have ever been on the Key bridge in the past 10 yrs, you were almost in my backyard lol. we live on the water in a cove that overlooks the 695 beltway.

fretlessman71
12-04-2005, 02:06 PM
Sounds scenic. ;)