How do you pronounce…..

[sbv32]

Thought this would be fun. I'm new to the real beer world and can't pronounce half of the names out there. Feel free to post the ones you know and ask the ones you don't. Hopefully with all this knowledge all will be answered.

I'll go first
Guinness is pronounced gin-es

How do you pronounce Schlafly?

[steveh]

Gueuze = Jhe - zay -- anyone have that link to Belgian Beer pronunciations?

S.

Oh yeh, Shlaf - lee

[fretlessman71]

Coors Light is pronounced "You're in".

Thank you and goodnight! :D

[BrewDog]

trub is pronounced "troob"

[sbv32]

trub is pronounced "troob"

This is good to know. I have been messing this one up :rolleyes:

[steveh]

And wort is pronounced wert.

S.

[fretlessman71]

Wort the trub are you talking about?

[sbv32]

O how green I am :D

[steveh]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
Wort the trub are you talking about?

Bier.

S.

[steveh]

Originally posted by sbv32
O how green I am

That can't be easy -- har. ;)

S.

[newportstorm]

Here's a useful guide to Belgian pronunciations, with audio.

http://www.belgianstyle.com/mmguide/pronounce/speak.html

[MrNate]

What about Helles?

[steveh]

What the Helles?

Hell - es, Dunk - ul, Book, Vy - tzen, Hay - Fah Vy - tzen.

S.

[sbv32]

Hell - es, Dunk - ul, Book, Vy - tzen, Hay - Fah Vy - tzen.

I'm confused!

[wortchillergoal]

Don't nobody be callin' me wert.

Ohwha-tagoo- ooze-eye-amm

[mdblu1]

budweiser= clides-dale-yer-in

[steveh]

Originally posted by sbv32
I'm confused!

Why?

Helles = Hell - es, Dunkel = Dunk - ul, Bock = Book, Weizen = Vy - tzen, Hefe Weizen = Hay - Fah Vy - tzen.

Simple.

:p

S.

[sbv32]

Helles = Hell - es, Dunkel = Dunk - ul, Bock = Book, Weizen = Vy - tzen, Hefe Weizen = Hay - Fah Vy - tzen.

Now I get it!

[Theakston]

Originally posted by steveh
anyone have that link to Belgian Beer pronunciations?

Here you go (http://belgianstyle.com/mmguide/pronounce/speak.html)

[steveh]

Originally posted by sbv32
Now I get it!

Just say it out loud...when no one else is around...unless they like beer!

S.

[wild]

Reinheitsgebot = Rhine-HEIGHTS-geh-bot

[steveh]

- boat.

S.

[fretlessman71]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
Coors Light is pronounced "You're in".

Thank you and goodnight! :D

So if I bump this post, does it say that I'm begging for positive attention?

[steveh]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
So if I bump this post,

Either that or you're emphasising that none of us get your silly humor...

Enough of this silliness!! Move along now!!

S.

(MDBLU had better phonetics...)

[Vienna Lager]

Leinenkugel = LINE - en - COOUG - ell.

[Test_Engineer]

what about carafa?

[threecb]

Lagunitas = La-goo-knee-tas
(sorry Jinja, i stole yours...if you're still around here)

[steveh]

Originally posted by Test_Engineer
what about carafa?

Never heard of it. Is it related to carapils (care-ah-pills)?

S.

[sbv32]

Leinenkugel = LINE - en - COOUG - ell.
Now this is one that I have struggled with in the past.

[Test_Engineer]

Originally posted by steveh
Never heard of it. Is it related to carapils (care-ah-pills)?

S.

similar. Dark grain! Carafa I, II, and III

[steveh]

Originally posted by Test_Engineer
Carafa I, II, and III

So, what the "fa?" So to speak.

S.

[sbv32]

I say we all have a few brews this weekend and continue this thread :D

[Test_Engineer]

Originally posted by steveh
So, what the "fa?" So to speak.

S.

I assume it is the same as carapils (Kara-pills).

[Sladek]

Originally posted by steveh
And wort is pronounced wert.

S. I've always wondered about this. Does "wort", like so many other of our brewing terms, originate in German, or from older English, meaning "plant" or "root"?

[steveh]

Originally posted by Test_Engineer
I assume it is the same as carapils (Kara-pills).

Okay, but I know what "pils" is -- as in Pilsner malt -- what the heck is "fa?"

S.

[mdblu1]

A long, long way to go

[steveh]

Originally posted by mdblu1
A long, long way to go

Geez -- I tee up something like that and no one else can swing at it?

"A long, long way to run..." ;)

S.

[BrewDog]

carafa = cuh - RAF - fuh
carapils = ca-ruh-PILZ
krausen = KROY-zen
lauter = LOW-ter (OW as in OUCH)
vorlauft = FOR - lowft (ow as in ouch)

[edited - thanks for the corrections, Sladek]

[corysdad]

Originally posted by steveh
Why?

Helles = Hell - es, Dunkel = Dunk - ul, Bock = Book, Weizen = Vy - tzen, Hefe Weizen = Hay - Fah Vy - tzen.

Simple.

:p

S.

Bock=Book? Hadn't heard that before.

[mdblu1]

Originally posted by steveh
Geez -- I tee up something like that and no one else can swing at it?

"A long, long way to run..." ;)

S.

Did the best I could

[steveh]

Originally posted by corysdad
Bock=Book? Hadn't heard that before.

Auf Deutsch (I mean as long as I was using the correct phonetics on the others...).

mdblu -- it's all in fun, especially when it comes to Julie Andrews! :D

S.

[fretlessman71]

And, after fa, comes:

So = what the Cubs fans say when they fall out of another pennant race ;)

[mdblu1]

Ain't no Cubs fans around here

[Sladek]

Originally posted by corysdad
Bock=Book? Hadn't heard that before. Well, technically, the German vowel in Bock is more /ɔ/ (akin to the short "o" in British English, like "not") than the English /ʊ/ in "book".

krausen = 'kroy zen, not tsen

vorlauft = "for lowft", where "lowft" rhymes with "out"

[corysdad]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
And, after fa, comes:

So = what the Cubs fans say when they fall out of another pennant race ;)

You just wait til next year!! Wait, we've been sayin that for prit near a hunderd years. I don't think it works.

[fretlessman71]

When Colorado first got cable back in '82 or so, one of the stations we got was WGN. Living 50 miles north of the nearest pro team (the AAA Denver Bears), I had really never seen pro ball played before, so when April 1st came around and the Cubs were on, playing at home, I decided to check it out.

I don't remember the team they were playing (Phillies?), but the first batter in the top of the 1st hit a home run. As he was rounding the bases, a camera panned up into the crowd and found a guy who was holding up a sign that read:

"Just wait 'til next year" :D

CLASSIC Cub fan!

[wild]

Originally posted by Sladek
vorlauft = "for lowft", where "lowft" rhymes with "out"
Not "loff"?

Wild

[steveh]

Originally posted by Sladek
Well, technically, the German vowel in Bock is more /ɔ/ (akin to the short "o" in British English, like "not") than the English /ʊ/ in "book".

It's pronounced (in Munich, anyway) as sort of an in between of the English "book" and "bought." Try ordering a "bock" (Bach - as we most often pronounce it in the U.S.) at Fruhlingsfest (as I did) and you get a very quzzical look -- and a Maß of Helles!

When the Fräulein finally translated our pigeon German, she rushed off with the Helles and back with the sweet Maibock!

S.

[petitbilbo]

Originally posted by steveh
Auf Deutsch (I mean as long as I was using the correct phonetics on the others...).

Nope,

auf Deutsch wird es "bock" ausgesprochen.

Seriously, it's "bock" as in "bock" and not "book".

;)

petitbilbo (the german-speaking Belgian)

[steveh]

Originally posted by petitbilbo
Seriously, it's "bock" as in "bock" and not "book".

Must be a regional thing then, because nowhere in Bavaria did anyone say "Bock" (Bach), and no one knew what the heck I was talking about when I said "Bach." Seriously.

And before it goes too far toward the "book" comparison, see my previous post -- trying to be more phonetical in print than is probably possible...

Maybe we should all just say "Starkbier," and get it over with. ;)
(Shtahrk - beer)

S.

Oh -- and don't even get me started on asking directions for the Sal - VAT - or Keller!! ;-)

[Theakston]

Feeling Foul? (http://www.felinfoel-brewery.com/) :p

[MrNate]

My wife peeked over my shoulder the other day as I was reading New Brewing Lager Beer and made some comment about "Kraeusen", pronouncing the word perfectly.

I looked at her funny and she shrugs and says, "I've been hanging out with the Germans."

I always had trouble with that word.

[steveh]

Originally posted by MrNate
I always had trouble with that word.

So have I. Oh, you meant kräusen...

S.

[MrNate]

Edited with apologies.

[steveh]

Danke.

S.

[MrNate]

Bitte schon.

[Mill Rat]

Originally posted by steveh
Must be a regional thing then. Indeed, there's far more variation in dialects per mile (or kilometer) in Deutschland (and probably most other European countries) than there is in the U.S.

[petitbilbo]

Originally posted by MrNate
Bitte schon.

Actually, it should be "Bitte schön"...

;)

[petitbilbo]

Originally posted by Mill Rat
Indeed, there's far more variation in dialects per mile (or kilometer) in Deutschland (and probably most other European countries) than there is in the U.S.

I really do NOT want to be picky here, but, comming from Cologne and having spent a certain time in Bavaria, I have never heard anybody pronounce the word as "book" (like the thing one reads).

Bock should simply be pronounced "BO-ck" (the "ck" shortens and emphasizes the "o" a bit)
and doppel-bock "DO-ple BO-ck"

:cool:

[MrNate]

Originally posted by petitbilbo
Actually, it should be "Bitte schön"...

;)

Oh, I know. I'm just far to lazy to look for the Uumlaut on my keyboard.

[steveh]

Originally posted by petitbilbo
Bock should simply be pronounced "BO-ck" (the "ck" shortens and emphasizes the "o" a bit) and doppel-bock "DO-ple BO-ck"

And this just about proves we can't really get phonetic in the written word...

To my original variation -- I used "book" because it was closer to what I'd heard and used (and learned) than "bock," as pronounced in American English. You're correct in that the word is sort of truncated (chopped) in pronunciation, so not quite strung out as "book" is in English -- but it's definitely not "b - ah - k" as bock is pronounced over here -- as I said, maybe we should just stick to Starkbier...and keep our ümläüts to oürsëlvëß! ;)

S.

[HarkJohnny]

hows about:

vorlauf - whor-lau-f

wyeast - why-yeast

dubbel - doo-bul

[steveh]

Originally posted by HarkJohnny
wyeast - why-yeast

Why not? ;)

Though I think Sladek may nick you on vorlauf...see page 3 of the thread.

S.

[Test_Engineer]

Originally posted by steveh
And this just about proves we can't really get phonetic in the written word...

To my original variation -- I used "book" because it was closer to what I'd heard and used (and learned) than "bock," as pronounced in American English. You're correct in that the word is sort of truncated (chopped) in pronunciation, so not quite strung out as "book" is in English -- but it's definitely not "b - ah - k" as bock is pronounced over here -- as I said, maybe we should just stick to Starkbier...and keep our ümläüts to oürsëlvëß! ;)

S.

The accent changes as you go south. Heck, even entire words change as you go south in Germany. The Bavaria region is know for strange pronunciations and substitute word. Not so different from the southern regions here in the US.

I understand what you are trying to say. Some tend to pronounce is more like "balk" as in the baseball term. or like Clock, while some almost say Buck (male deer). The farther you get north, the more it sounds like Bach.

This is really hard to do by typing.

[corysdad]

Originally posted by Test_Engineer

I understand what you are trying to say. Some tend to pronounce is more like "balk" as in the baseball term. or like Clock, while some almost say Buck (male deer). The farther you get north, the more it sounds like Bach.

This is really hard to do by typing.

I checked with our exchange student from Cologne, Germany, he sounded more like "buck". But trying as hard as I could, I didn't match his accent.
It was kinda funny him and I going back and forth, with me trying to imitate his accent. Sounded like a slow chicken.

[steveh]

Originally posted by corysdad
Sounded like a slow chicken.

That's what I'm talkin' about!! ;)

T.E. -- Bavaria has nothing on Schwabia for pronunciation and even their own words! Even P.Bilbo would probably agree with me there.

S.

[petitbilbo]

I do! I do!

But now that I think of it, maybe MY english pronounciation is so incorrect that I get it wrong when trying to write it phonetically...

Never occured to me.

:)

Whatever, I'll rest my case.

[steveh]

Originally posted by petitbilbo
...when trying to write it phonetically...

Yah -- until we can meet face-to-face and spew pronunciation (good or bad) at each other, this is all academic!

Meanwhile, prosit!

S.

[Sladek]

Originally posted by wild
Not "loff"?

Wild yep--"au" in German is a diphthong and is pronounced, in whatever word, "ow", like, "ow! you stepped on my toe!" So, in German, "Auto" is pronounced "ow-toe"

And Bock is not pronounced like "book"! Like petitbilbo said. And not like "Bach", that's the American /o/ which becomes a long ah, phoneme /a:/ in certain environments. Seriously, pronounce "Bock" like a Brit would. We need sound files here.

[steveh]

Originally posted by Sladek
Seriously, pronounce "Bock" like a Brit would.

You know -- that might be the perfect answer! ;)

Though Corysdad nails it pretty good.

S.