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sbv32
09-21-2007, 11:02 AM
keg beer for the general public. Most of my peps drink AB products and I refuse to put that crap in my new freezer.
Currently I have a keg of boulevard Wheat on tap and was looking for a good general keg beer that even AB drinkers would like. I was thinking about Samuel Adams Light. For you people that have mult kegs, what do you keep on tap for the general public, besides your own home brew?
De Hooter
09-22-2007, 12:50 AM
Uhhhmmm, nothing.
I keep beer in my kegerator for me. While I am willing to share with guests, if they don't like it they are free to bring their own.
Admittedly, that means that they also need to bring a cooler if they are bringing BMC products.
Richard English
09-22-2007, 04:31 AM
If I am having a party then I would get in a cask (not a keg) which will keep for maybe a week.
If I am just keeping beer on hand for visitors then I buy bottles. Bottle-conditioned beers will last at least a year and are very nearly as good as cask-conditioned beers.
There are plenty of good ones now brewed in the USA - and plenty of British imports as well.
And I agree with De Hooter; don't keep any rubbish; if people ask for "a beer" (and most BMC drinkers will do that as they don't realise there are differences between one beer and another) then ask whether they would like a dark beer or a light beer; a strong beer of a weaker beer.
Once you have that information, retire to your dispense point, select an appropriate beer, pour it into a glass, and deliver it! No drinking out of bottles - that's a heathen pursuit.
Then wait for the astonishment and admiration as, for the first time in their lives, the chemical-fizz drinkers taste beer and realise what a wonderful drink it is.
MeridianFC
09-22-2007, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by sbv32
keg beer for the general public. Most of my peps drink AB products and I refuse to put that crap in my new freezer.
Currently I have a keg of boulevard Wheat on tap and was looking for a good general keg beer that even AB drinkers would like. I was thinking about Samuel Adams Light. For you people that have mult kegs, what do you keep on tap for the general public, besides your own home brew?
Some suggestions that have worked for me:
Victory Prima Pils
Victory Lager
Brooklyn Pilsner
Brooklyn Lager
Allagash White
Smuttynose Lager
Sam Adams Summer
Sierra Nevada Summerfest
MrNate
09-24-2007, 12:38 PM
Sam Adams, Blue Moon and Yuengling tend to be well received 'round these parts.
Try anything you see on tap in bars around you outside of the usual B-M-C. If you drink it and say to yourself, "Huh. That's entirely inoffensive," you have a good candidate.
barleyburps
09-24-2007, 05:18 PM
had a Yuengling traditional lager 2 days ago ( friend brought a 6 pack from out of town). I've never been able to find it in this area, so this is my first exposure to it. It was the canned version. Being the oldest brewery in America, I wanted to try it. . .
personally, I think it is overated. . .little better than a macro. . .
there are some left in my refrigerator, so I will evaluate it further. . . but I was definitely not impressed.
MrNate
09-24-2007, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by barleyburps
personally, I think it is overated. . .little better than a macro. . .
there are some left in my refrigerator, so I will evaluate it further. . . but I was definitely not impressed.
Nor should you be. My feeling is that the biggest hurdle is getting someone past the "I'm a Bud drinker" mindset. Once they try (and like, due to the fact that they are not that different from Bud or whatever flavor-wise) Yuengling or Blue moon, then the door has been cracked and you can start to wiggle a foot in there.
They're gateway beers, is my point.
Sentence structure is today my strong point, not.
The Alchemist
09-24-2007, 05:43 PM
There are alot of good suggestions listed above. I would add a German Helles. In my neck of the woods Penn Gold fits this bill.
Richard English
09-25-2007, 01:24 AM
Originally posted by barleyburps
had a Yuengling traditional lager 2 days ago ( friend brought a 6 pack from out of town). I've never been able to find it in this area, so this is my first exposure to it. It was the canned version. Being the oldest brewery in America, I wanted to try it. . .
personally, I think it is overated. . .little better than a macro. . .
there are some left in my refrigerator, so I will evaluate it further. . . but I was definitely not impressed.
At the risk of being boringly repetitious, let me say once again, "If it's in a can, it can only be indifferent".
Good beer comes in casks or bottles.
MeridianFC
09-25-2007, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by Richard English
At the risk of being boringly repetitious, let me say once again, "If it's in a can, it can only be indifferent".
Good beer comes in casks or bottles.
Sly Fox Pikeland Pils begs to differ.
dparsons
09-26-2007, 01:43 AM
I had a Yuengling once. That was enough. There is better beer out there.
My choice of a great commercial beer that is well received by the general public who get introduced to it is Boulder Beer's Hazed and Infuzed. It may be harder to find back East, but its certainly available here in the Rockies.
Richard English
09-26-2007, 03:49 AM
Originally posted by MeridianFC
Sly Fox Pikeland Pils begs to differ. I am willing to be convinced but so far have not been. Fuller's London Pride, a wonderful beer on draught, is no more than drinkable in a can.
Canned beers, like any canned foodstuff, must be sterile. Most canned foodstuffs are sterilised by cooking and that changes the food's favour. In the case of beer, the cooking process (normally a form of pasteurisation) removes much of the beer's complexity and the extraneous carbon dioxide that has to be added to replace that driven of by the sterilisation process makes the drink fizzy.
I understand that canned Dudweiser does not taste all that different from bottled Dudweiser, since that concoction goes through a similar kind of process. I do know that proper beers change their flavour considerably.
I understand that experiments have been undertaken to allow conditioning in the can (as bottle-conditioned beers mature in the bottle) but I have not yet managed to find or sample any such.
Since there are hundreds of bottle-conditioned beers around, why not stick to them and eschew the canned concoctions?
barleyburps
09-26-2007, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by Richard English
At the risk of being boringly repetitious, let me say once again, "If it's in a can, it can only be indifferent".
Good beer comes in casks or bottles.
The friend who brought it over, and another, who also have had yeungling both said it was better in the bottle and best on draft, but their opinion was it still left something to be desired in any fashion. . .
bigben
09-26-2007, 06:07 PM
I have to say that having options of having yuengling all three ways it is the best on tap. but it still would be better if they would not make 2/3 of the grist corn
Mill Rat
09-26-2007, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by Richard English
Since there are hundreds of bottle-conditioned beers around, why not stick to them and eschew the canned concoctions? Two reasons: First, there are still unenlightened (pardon the pun) brewers that still put well-hopped beers into green or clear bottles. Wychwood and St. Peters have been English offenders in this category, and PU is simply notorious. I'd get those beers in cans just because it's still dark inside the cans.
Second, there are public places and events that ban glass containers for safety reasons. I'd rather have a good beer in a can than no beer at all. (Most canned megabrews fall into the no-beer-at-all category.)
corkybstewart
09-26-2007, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by Richard English
At the risk of being boringly repetitious, let me say once again, "If it's in a can, it can only be indifferent".
Good beer comes in casks or bottles.
Not anymore. Lots of good brews are being canned these days. Less issues with skunking, environmentally superior, canned beers are far superior to what they were just a few years ago. I've had some Oskar Blues brews-Old Chub and Dale's Pale Ale-that compare very well with bottled beers.
DecoJuicer
09-26-2007, 07:47 PM
I certainly wish some of the craft brewers around here would start canning beer. It would be great to be able to take a six pack of cans down the river.
Sometimes when I go deer hunting, I leave my rifle in the house and just take my camera. It would be nice to be able to have some cans in my backpack up in my stand. If a can falls, I can just pick it up when I climb down. If a bottle falls, it could shatter and leave glass everywhere.
They are nice just for floating with in the pool too.
Richard English
09-27-2007, 01:04 AM
I accept that there are a few places where only canned beer is available or allowed - aeroplanes are another good example. Then I might drink a can if it's a reasonable brewer's can (Fuller's London Pride is an example of one such). But it all they have is foul Stella Artois or disgusting John Smith's, then I go without. After all, a cup of tea can be quite refreshing!
corkybstewart
09-27-2007, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by Richard English
I accept that there are a few places where only canned beer is available or allowed - aeroplanes are another good example. Then I might drink a can if it's a reasonable brewer's can (Fuller's London Pride is an example of one such). But it all they have is foul Stella Artois or disgusting John Smith's, then I go without. After all, a cup of tea can be quite refreshing!
Agreed. It's not the can's fault that the canned beer is bad. And now they've come up with even less reactive cans so the beer really doesn't even contact the metal anymore.
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