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surfadelic23

07-25-2007, 08:13 AM

I think Chelsea can make a run this year if they stay healthy...

Though my Blue hens seem to be in a hell of a tail spin. Here's hoping they can pull it together...

My American football team left town in the middle of the night during a snow storm... I heard some posers using the same name recently won a superbowl or something... Can't say as I was paying much attention...

.re Joe Gibbs, I hope he turns that mess around. If not, it's back to racing for him!!

newportstorm

07-25-2007, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by D0nc0smic
second of all the cowboys will be awful and will once again be beaten horibly by the redskins within their division lets see, rookie coack vs. Joe gibbs, i just don't see the rookie having a chance

Wade Phillips a rookie coach? :confused:

Been around a loooong time - head jobs in Denver and Buffalo and short interim stints in NO & Atlanta, not to mention being a (quite successful) defensive coordinator for many teams.

I'm hardly a Cowboys fan, though, so their success means little to me.

rlkbaylor

07-25-2007, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by hertha fever
you´re either steeler nation or jealousy nation.

Everyone's jealous of Steeler nation, no fans follow their team like Steeler fans. I grew up in the burgh, but I've lived in Detroit, Dallas (cowboys suck!!), and now Houston. I've always found a large contingent of loyal Steelers fans everywhere I've lived. Believe it or not when the Steelers won their 5th SB a couple years ago, I was shocked at how may Steeler flags, stickers, shirts, etc.. that I saw around town, and that was before the game. Every city has a Steelers bar or pub of some type. I've never seen a Bengals bar, or a Patriots bar.

Although I bleed black & gold, I dont see how anyone can beat the Patriots. Tom Brady is awesome, and has pretty good taste in women.

The Cowboys wouldnt even make the playoffs in the AFC, they are a joke. How can anyone root for a team that sells itself just to win (T.O.). No Integrity.

HogieWan

07-25-2007, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by rlkbaylor

Although I bleed black & gold . . .

so, you're rooting for the Saints, too?

chazwicke

07-25-2007, 11:05 AM

I, too am routing for the lowly Redskins. I cancelled my season tickets as my contract expired and the prices to renew nearly doubled. It was going to cost me about $900.00 a game for 2 Club Level seats and an Orange parking pass!!!!!!!!

rlkbaylor

07-25-2007, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by HogieWan
so, you're rooting for the Saints, too?

How can anyone root against Drew Brees, Reggie, old Joe Horn or the Aints. Class Acts, they do need a new owner though. They were a better team than Chicago last year, just a victim of weather.

D0nc0smic

07-25-2007, 11:24 AM

i dunno about the devotion of the steeler nation i mean they are crazy i believe it, but i mean do they dress in drag and wear pig noses, now THATs devotion

surfadelic23

07-25-2007, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by chazwicke
I, too am routing for the lowly Redskins. I cancelled my season tickets as my contract expired and the prices to renew nearly doubled. It was going to cost me about $900.00 a game for 2 Club Level seats and an Orange parking pass!!!!!!!!

That's pretty expensive considering the product on the field!

Are the Skins still paying for Deion??

Something bad needs to be done to the Oriole and Skin franchise owners... Something very very bad...

fretlessman71

07-25-2007, 11:50 AM

A football team to root for? Hmmmmm.... WHO should I pick.......?

<<<<<<------------------------- ;)

Wilson

07-25-2007, 11:53 AM

Pro Football, blah. Although, I do like the Saints.

Cant wait for the college season to start up!!

chazwicke

07-25-2007, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by surfadelic23
Something bad needs to be done to the Oriole and Skin franchise owners... Something very very bad...

Agreed!!

HarkJohnny

07-25-2007, 12:08 PM

WHO-DEY! Black and Orange baby!

for all the Steelers fans here's a vid for you that my brother took while tailgaiting...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ns2TpU58_0

rlkbaylor

07-25-2007, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by HarkJohnny
WHO-DEY! Black and Orange baby!

for all the Steelers fans here's a vid for you that my brother took while tailgaiting...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ns2TpU58_0

Not surprised, Cincy has a history of police brutality.

The Steelers have a history of brutally beating the Bungals.

I thought the Bungals were moving to the penal league this year.

chazwicke

07-25-2007, 01:33 PM

It's not the cops in Philly, it's the fans that you have to look out for.:eek:

steveh

07-25-2007, 02:17 PM

Okay folks -- back to reality, I have to do this EVERY year!! Let's not push the season here, it's JULY - still SUMMER -- I don't want to let go just yet, especially here where the hawk wind blows. Ye know?

S.

77 and partly sunny here in northern Illinois, by the banks of the Michigammi -- no changing leaves or blowing ice please!

HogieWan

07-25-2007, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by steveh

77 and partly sunny here in northern Illinois, by the banks of the Michigammi -- no changing leaves or blowing ice please!

people in other parts of the country suffer during summer and await winter's relief

darylM

07-25-2007, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by larin1477
Thats a good one...are you a comic?

No but I play one on TV

wortchillergoal

07-25-2007, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by steveh
Okay folks -- back to reality, I have to do this EVERY year!! Let's not push the season here, it's JULY - still SUMMER -- I don't want to let go just yet, especially here where the hawk wind blows. Ye know?

S.

77 and partly sunny here in northern Illinois, by the banks of the Michigammi -- no changing leaves or blowing ice please!

I understand that. the last of our snow melted away yesterday.

D0nc0smic

07-25-2007, 03:21 PM

i know i know, but training camp starts this week ,and as was mentioned in the baseball and beer thread some of us are reds and nationals fans who have nothing better to do than look forward to the skins and bengals starting their seasons

surfadelic23

07-25-2007, 03:46 PM

I think 77 degrees was the low last night!

:D

hertha fever

07-25-2007, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by rlkbaylor
Everyone's jealous of Steeler nation, no fans follow their team like Steeler fans. I grew up in the burgh, but I've lived in Detroit, Dallas (cowboys suck!!), and now Houston. I've always found a large contingent of loyal Steelers fans everywhere I've lived. Believe it or not when the Steelers won their 5th SB a couple years ago, I was shocked at how may Steeler flags, stickers, shirts, etc.. that I saw around town, and that was before the game. Every city has a Steelers bar or pub of some type. I've never seen a Bengals bar, or a Patriots bar.

Although I bleed black & gold, I dont see how anyone can beat the Patriots. Tom Brady is awesome, and has pretty good taste in women.

The Cowboys wouldnt even make the playoffs in the AFC, they are a joke. How can anyone root for a team that sells itself just to win (T.O.). No Integrity.

lots and lots of steelers flags here, yes here, too!
the pats have talent, but no chemistry, the players are not at all on the same page and have different styles.
plus, one hard hit on brady (please let it happen :) ), and the pats don´t win another game after.

newportstorm

07-25-2007, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by hertha fever
the pats have talent, but no chemistry,

I'll take that over chemistry, but no talent.

Originally posted by hertha fever

the players are not at all on the same page and have different styles.

Big assumption and very premature. Training camp has yet to open. Show me a team that's sailing smooth, without off-season personnel changes, contract disputes, coaching changes, etc.

Nothing wrong with different styles, either. Would you prefer to have a team with nothing but deep threats? Nothing but possession receivers? Nothing but between the tackles backs?

If after week 4, the Pats haven't figured out their roles and found some sort of groove, I'll start to be concerned.

Originally posted by hertha fever

plus, one hard hit on brady (please let it happen ), and the pats don't win another game after.

While I've never wished harm on another player (OK....maybe Peyton Manning ;) ), you may be right on this one.

Though, I'll take my chances with Matt Cassell vs. Cleveland at home.

hertha fever

07-25-2007, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by newportstorm
I'll take that over chemistry, but no talent.

Big assumption and very premature. Training camp has yet to open. Show me a team that's sailing smooth, without off-season personnel changes, contract disputes, coaching changes, etc.

Nothing wrong with different styles, either. Would you prefer to have a team with nothing but deep threats? Nothing but possession receivers? Nothing but between the tackles backs?

If after week 4, the Pats haven't figured out their roles and found some sort of groove, I'll start to be concerned.

While I've never wished harm on another player (OK....maybe Peyton Manning ;) ), you may be right on this one.

Though, I'll take my chances with Matt Cassell vs. Cleveland at home.

i´ll admit, it is a big presumption and very premature. but, if player history dictates anything, it is correct.
players can change? yeah possibly. but take a look at guys like pacman and vick. the world in there hands and too stubborn to change.
i should say, i´d never wish harm on another player either, that was a joke (or was it?). i mean, my teams qb almost died last year, so i know what that could mean.

Beerisgood3

07-25-2007, 05:04 PM

Holy Moly.

So many Pittsburgh fans in here? One or two of you mentioned living here before. What area?

I live 10 minutes away in the North Hills Area (not the POS school district).

It'll be interesting to see the new coaching. Have to be hopeful after last years 8-8. You can never doubt the franchise tied for the most superbowl wins.

For those of you hating on the Steelers, they are without question the most popular team out of their home town.

I'll spare a few tears here by not telling some of you that you're delusional if you think your teams are going to win. I'm not saying steelers necessarily, but some of the teams mentioned....wow.

Err...someone made a hockey comment. Let's see....Pens made the playoffs with an 18, 19, and 20 year olds in their starting 10, and quite a few of those 10 were rookies. Those kids are just BOYS and they made the league look like fools. They're phenoms. No doubt Pens will show up their record last year and make it even farther now that they have a year under their belt.

As for the big Ovy vs. Cid debate that Pens haters started last year....You honestly have to be an idiot to think Ovy is nearly as talented, let alone better. 92 vs 120 regular season points. Ovy can score, nobody doubts it, but he can't make plays like Cid to save his life. Not only that but those 120 points were with much less experienced players. I forget the number now, but the average age on the penguins was amongst the lowest in the league....if we didn't have Recci's old bones (though i'm a fan), we'd be the lowest prob.

To make a long post short:

GO STEELERS
GO PENS
GO.............pirates?:(

hertha fever

07-25-2007, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by Beerisgood3
Holy Moly.

So many Pittsburgh fans in here? One or two of you mentioned living here before. What area?

I live 10 minutes away in the North Hills Area (not the POS school district).

It'll be interesting to see the new coaching. Have to be hopeful after last years 8-8. You can never doubt the franchise tied for the most superbowl wins.

For those of you hating on the Steelers, they are without question the most popular team out of their home town.

I'll spare a few tears here by not telling some of you that you're delusional if you think your teams are going to win. I'm not saying steelers necessarily, but some of the teams mentioned....wow.

Err...someone made a hockey comment. Let's see....Pens made the playoffs with an 18, 19, and 20 year olds in their starting 10, and quite a few of those 10 were rookies. Those kids are just BOYS and they made the league look like fools. They're phenoms. No doubt Pens will show up their record last year and make it even farther now that they have a year under their belt.

As for the big Ovy vs. Cid debate that Pens haters started last year....You honestly have to be an idiot to think Ovy is nearly as talented, let alone better. 92 vs 120 regular season points. Ovy can score, nobody doubts it, but he can't make plays like Cid to save his life. Not only that but those 120 points were with much less experienced players. I forget the number now, but the average age on the penguins was amongst the lowest in the league....if we didn't have Recci's old bones (though i'm a fan), we'd be the lowest prob.

To make a long post short:

GO STEELERS
GO PENS
GO.............pirates?:(

well, i lived a little further away......... correction, my house was a bit furhter away from pittsburgh than you are. however, i was there all the time.

rlkbaylor

07-25-2007, 05:20 PM

Grew up in Plum, moved back after college & lived in Wilkins Twp.

FYI, for all the Steelers fans, I saw on Yahoo Sports that Lamar Woolley is doing a training camp diary. I assume he'll update it daily.

Bringing the thread towards beer, they actually ship Iron City to Houston. I've bought a few sixers (purely out of obligation), it still tastes like river water downstream of a bloated horse.

No doubt that the Pens will be a deacade long dynasty, its a question of when not if.

rlkbaylor

07-25-2007, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by hertha fever
plus, one hard hit on brady (please let it happen :) ), and the pats don´t win another game after.

Isnt that true of most teams?

hertha fever

07-25-2007, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by rlkbaylor
Isnt that true of most teams?

most, but not all.
as an example, if big ben goes down, we still have charlie batch.
yeah, not the ideal solution, but he can get the job done and help win as we´ve seen.

wortchillergoal

07-25-2007, 06:37 PM

A teacher wanting to get off on the right foot with her students decided to talk football. She said," I am a Seahawks fan. Is any one here a Seahawks fan?"

Every student raised their hand except for one little girl. The teacher asked what team she was a fan of. the little girl replied that she was a Steelers fan.

"Why are you a Steelers fan?", asked the teacher.
The little girl told her because her mommy and daddy are Steeler fans. The little girl went to explain that she likes being like her mommy and daddy.

The teacher told her that she did not have to do everything that her mommy and daddy did. The teacher then said," What would you be if you mommy were stupid and your daddy was an idiot?"

"A Seahawks fan.", said the little girl.

rlkbaylor

07-25-2007, 08:26 PM

I'm trying not to think about Big Ben going down. The team has enough problems as it is. The more I read about Lamarr Woodley, the more I like him, cant wait to see him play.

WortChillerGoal, Very Funny, Although I would propose inseting "Cowboys" instead of Seahawks.

Two teams I root for every single Sunday. The Steelers and whoever is playing the Cowgirls.

wortchillergoal

07-25-2007, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by rlkbaylor
WortChillerGoal, Very Funny, Although I would propose inseting "Cowboys" instead of Seahawks.

I heard it as a baseball joke, Yankees/Redsox, but thought he change would work well in this thread.

zoom6zoom

07-25-2007, 10:00 PM

For the most part, I don't follow most pro sports at all any more. I'm not going to go into a long rant on the thug mentality of many of these "millionaires". Let's just say here's a half time show I'd like to see:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b155/jgwatches/michaelvick.jpg

zoom6zoom

07-25-2007, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by wortchillergoal
I heard it as a baseball joke, Yankees/Redsox, but thought he change would work well in this thread.

I guess it's been around a long time. First time I heard it the little girl's reply was "a Democrat".

steveh

07-25-2007, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by surfadelic23
I think 77 degrees was the low last night!

Oh believe me, 77 at the height of the afternoon is far from the norm here in late July, that's why I want to enjoy it, but we still have August to make up our share of heat and humidity.

Hogie, we'll revive this thread around mid January, okay? :(

S.

surfadelic23

07-26-2007, 07:30 AM

I'm not going to go into a long rant on the thug mentality of many of these "millionaires"."

Thank you!

steveh

07-26-2007, 07:50 AM

Zoom/Surf, look at the glass half full side; there are many of these "millionaires" who lend their names and full efforts to many a good cause. They aren't all thugs, let's not let the bad oversahdow the good as most news outlets seem wont to do.

S.

chazwicke

07-26-2007, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by zoom6zoom
For the most part, I don't follow most pro sports at all any more. I'm not going to go into a long rant on the thug mentality of many of these "millionaires". Let's just say here's a half time show I'd like to see:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b155/jgwatches/michaelvick.jpg

For a second I thought that was Michael Vick

steveh

07-26-2007, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by chazwicke
For a second I thought that was Michael Vick

What happened after the second was over, you realized that it really was?

:eek:

S.

chazwicke

07-26-2007, 10:05 AM

OOPs! you're right. I skimmed the picture. He should be banned.

I was going to second the notion that many Pro atheletes are thugs.

rlkbaylor

07-26-2007, 10:34 AM

I agree with the Thug comment, but there are alot of stand up guys in the league too.

One of many examples. Houston had a player the last couple of years named Ephraim Salaam (I think 06 was his last year). Although he is Muslim & obviously doesnt celebrate Christmas. Every year he does some big Santa toy drive event. He gives christmas toys to kids who otherwise would get nothing.

Look at Big Ben, I think I read that he did a bunch of stuff for local Fireman & their families.

Type Warrick Dunn & charity into google & you'll get hundreds of articles.

I'm not saying most of these guys cant do more, alot more, but it's easy (especially since that's all the media focuses on) to think all the players are like Vick or Pacman.

newportstorm

07-26-2007, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by rlkbaylor
I'm not saying most of these guys cant do more, alot more, but it's easy (especially since that's all the media focuses on) to think all the players are like Vick or Pacman.

True. There are nearly 2000 players in the NFL, yet the same dozen or so guys seem to dominate the headlines, tabloids, ESPN "breaking news", etc. That's less than 1% of the player base.

So, the other 99% are average guys who have families, generally abide by the law, donate to (or start/manage) charities and use their wealth and fame to help others.

zoom6zoom

07-26-2007, 12:20 PM

Sorry, I don't really want to take this thread too far off the beacon - I realize there are probably more goo guys than bad - but the good guys in the leagues need to stand up and drive out the ones who are giving them all the bad press. Until that time, it matters not to me what beer is being served at the stadium because I'm not going to be there.

I'm not sure exactly when or why all this stuff changed. Maybe it used to happen but we just didn't hear about it. When I was a kid we had sports idols like Yaz and Orr to name a few. My sister was Ken Harrelson's babysitter; if you didn't know who he was you'd have thought he was just another average guy.

We really need some old fashioned role models. If I never have to hear another story about someone like Vick (or "celebrities" like Paris and Lindsay) it will be a good start.

newportstorm

07-26-2007, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by zoom6zoom
Sorry, I don't really want to take this thread too far off the beacon - I realize there are probably more goo guys than bad - but the good guys in the leagues need to stand up and drive out the ones who are giving them all the bad press.

How do you propose they do that? There are team leaders that help create a positive atmosphere in the locker room, on the field and off. But if a team owner wants to spend $$$ on a risky player, he/she will.

Originally posted by zoom6zoom
I'm not sure exactly when or why all this stuff changed. Maybe it used to happen but we just didn't hear about it. When I was a kid we had sports idols like Yaz and Orr to name a few. My sister was Ken Harrelson's babysitter; if you didn't know who he was you'd have thought he was just another average guy.

Oh, it happened. You don't think professional athletes 50 years ago abused booze and drugs? Got into fights? Beat their wives? Were adulterers? Gambled illegally? Cheated the game they played? Etc., etc?

It's simply harder to hide from/cover up/explain away now.

Originally posted by zoom6zoom
We really need some old fashioned role models. If I never have to hear another story about someone like Vick (or "celebrities" like Paris and Lindsay) it will be a good start.

Role models are probably present on every team in every league. They may not get the pub that some of their bad-boy teammates do, but they exist. Seek them out.

Remember though, these people are human. Not idols. Not perfection. They may.....drink alcohol. Enjoy a little weed now and then. Gamble in Vegas. Have children out of wedlock. :eek: Yet, they have good hearts, help people, champion causes and use their fame to others' advantage, as well as their own.

See through the crap the media wants you to believe and make up your own mind about who's worth cheering for.

chazwicke

07-26-2007, 01:30 PM

I think a lot more of them than those you hear about are dumb thugs too. They get a pass in school because they have a talant that is marketable. So many just are not that smart. Many have an entourage of business people, friends, family, drug dealers and clingers on to help them spend their money and often after their short career playing is over they have lost most of what they had left in a few years. Many invest in failed businesses like car dealerships or restaurants. Many were just street punks to begin with and revert back. How many times have you heard stories of these guys hawking thier superbowl rings. I've done title searches on several for foreclosure on thier elaborate homes. I'm sure the percentage of thugs is small but don't think they are not there.

Then there are the stand up guys with a little class like Art Monk, Monte Coleman, Darrell Green, Cal Ripkin and others.

rlkbaylor

07-26-2007, 02:08 PM

Bringing this back to the Steelers being the greatest Football franchise.

In the late 60's & early 70's, my dad was a steel worker. After work he & his buddies would stop by the local bars & down a few on the way home. He has several stories about running into the Steelers from those days. They would be having a few beers right along with the average workers.

He always said that they were regular guys. They were blue collar guys who happened to play in the NFL. Very approachable.

steveh

07-26-2007, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by newportstorm
Oh, it happened. You don't think professional athletes 50 years ago abused booze and drugs? Got into fights?

3 words; Paul Hor Nung. ;)

Then we could get into the real personality of Ty Cobb, but yeah - its seems like all they ever report is the bad stuff anymore.

S.

newportstorm

07-26-2007, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by chazwicke
I think a lot more of them than those you hear about are dumb thugs too. They get a pass in school because they have a talant that is marketable. So many just are not that smart. Many have an entourage of business people, friends, family, drug dealers and clingers on to help them spend their money and often after their short career playing is over they have lost most of what they had left in a few years. Many invest in failed businesses like car dealerships or restaurants. Many were just street punks to begin with and revert back. How many times have you heard stories of these guys hawking thier superbowl rings. I've done title searches on several for foreclosure on thier elaborate homes. I'm sure the percentage of thugs is small but don't think they are not there.

Being dumb and/or irresponsible with your money and thug life don't necessarily go hand in hand.

Lots of guys have sold their rings over the years. LOTS. Most have run into hard luck. Some their own doing through illegal activities. Some not so sinister - divorce, back taxes, gambling habit, poor financial planning. Some really don't cherish a material reminder of what they accomplished.

Originally posted by chazwicke

Then there are the stand up guys with a little class like Art Monk, Monte Coleman, Darrell Green, Cal Ripkin and others.

Boggles me that Art Monk is not in the Hall of Fame. One of my favortie players as a young kid. Yet a clown like Michael Irvin gets enshrined. :confused:

And while there's no denying Ripken's talent, I've heard more than one sports writer criticize his streak. Being an "Iron Man" is admirable but taking a day off now and then (what....10-15 per year?) might have benefitted both him and his team. Whatever, though. His is a record unlikely to ever be broken.

Mill Rat

07-26-2007, 08:22 PM

Chaz, there comes a time when you have to look at how much some fools are willing to pay for something and decide you're not that big of a fool. If enough people do that, they won't sell out and the owners will have to lower prices enough to maximize their profits. More money for beer and a flat screen.

chazwicke

07-27-2007, 09:38 AM

Agreed. And the fact is I NEVER used my tickets myself. I always gave them to employees, friends or clients and occasionally during last year, sold them. I never even saw my own seats. Never went to the Club Level. In fact I've never been to Fed Ex Field. RFK I went to many, many times. But after my contract expired there was no way I was gonna renew for 900.00 a game. They offered to get me lesser seats for the same price I was paying for the old tix (535.00):rolleyes:
I am told that my old seats were pretty decent though.

surfadelic23

07-27-2007, 01:04 PM

"They aren't all thugs, let's not let the bad oversahdow the good as most news outlets seem wont to do."
Dunn and Brooks are acouple of good eggs...

I agree, Steve... My thank you was for the poster NOT going off on a long rant...
:-)

larin1477

07-27-2007, 03:32 PM

Yes well back to the subject of Football!...I feel like a broken record here...It's ok by the way...I waited 30 years for someone to tell me how much they HATE the Patriots cuz they win too much!...I still have nightmares of growing up in NE and having everyone laugh at me because I said the Pats are my team....Laugh it now...Im thinking three more would be just about right...6 Superbowls is a nice round number!!

hertha fever

07-27-2007, 03:41 PM

i gotta feeling (get it?, probably not), that we´ll begin laughing at the pats soon again. :p

rlkbaylor

07-27-2007, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by hertha fever
i gotta feeling (get it?, probably not), that we´ll begin laughing at the pats soon again. :p

I second that, although it will be at least a year or two. I really dont see how anyone can beat the Pats this year, but that's why they play the games. NE didnt just reload this year, they upgraded to a much larger weapon.

Forget about Moss, and that's still a really good offense. Wes Welker is really underated. Imagine Moss & Stallworth deep and Welker & Watson underneath. Though, I'm not sure L Maroney can carry the load for the whole season.

The defense is aging especially at LB, but they did sign Adalius Thomas and were able to keep A Samuel.

I just dont see SD really being able to compete with NE.

TheMonster

07-30-2007, 06:40 PM

As a long time Redskins fan, I'm pretty optimistic this year. Look how far you can go as a Mediocre team if you play in a bad division (See 06' Chicago Bears). McNabb isn't going to ever get back to his old form, the Giants are a mess, and the Cowboys.....2 words, Wade Phillips.

cul8rv8

07-30-2007, 06:55 PM

NFL sucks....

Go Bucks!

I'm ready for football season, because that means the 100+ degree days are gone. :)

Little Johnny was in his 4th grade class when the teacher asked the children what their fathers did for a living. All the typical answers came up - fireman, policeman, salesman, etc... Johnny was being uncharacteristically quiet and so the teacher asked him about his father.

"My father's an exotic dancer in a gay cabaret and takes off all his clothes in front of other men. Sometimes, if the offer's really good, he'll go out to the alley with some guy and make love with him for money."

The teacher, obviously shaken by this statement, hurriedly set the other children to work on some coloring, and took Little Johnny aside to ask him, "Is that really true about your father?"

"No," said Johnny, "He is an assistant coach for the Michigan Wolverines, but I was too embarrassed to say so."

larin1477

07-30-2007, 11:37 PM

Not a huge Michigan fan ...BUT...they did give us TOM BRADY!!!

chazwicke

07-31-2007, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by TheMonster
As a long time Redskins fan, I'm pretty optimistic this year.

You are a good man. Welcome to the board.

MadDog88

08-13-2007, 10:46 AM

NFL football. Another season I have to listen to a bunch of rabid fans of a team I grew up hating. Right now I'm waiting for the Red Sox to implode. The Yankees can then pass them by again, just like in 78. Will the yahoos at work shut up, NOOOO. Next comes the Brady show. May be this is the year of the Bills once again. I know we have a poor history with all the wide right kicks and that 'alleged' murder guy that was a great running back. Yes, I think he did it and should have been found guilty, but LA Co screwed it up.

It really sucks living in a city of your rivals. Lucky, or not for me, I somehow have always liked the Bruins. NFL means Hockey is about to start.

newportstorm

08-13-2007, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by MadDog88
It really sucks living in a city of your rivals. Lucky, or not for me, I somehow have always liked the Bruins. NFL means Hockey is about to start.

Pity. The Bruins are about the only local team without any press this year.

Been a looooooong time since they were relevant year in and year out.

fretlessman71

08-13-2007, 11:55 AM

You could always join me and root for the team that got Deion Branch from NE... now there's a reason to celebrate, isn't it?

I know... the 'Hawks are the butt of just about every joke and have been the redheaded stepchild of the NFL since their inception 31 years ago... but nobody knows, or is willing to admit, just how good they really are... they're worth your consideration! :)

(Go ahead, RB community... insult away... our feathers create a natural barrier so everything bounces off...)

newportstorm

08-13-2007, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by fretlessman71
You could always join me and root for the team that got Deion Branch from NE... now there's a reason to celebrate, isn't it?

First round draft pick for the Pats in exchange for a disgruntled WR that didn't want to play out his contract or take an "insulting" $6 million/year with an $8 million signing bonus? I'll take that.

Though, I question the 'Hawks for paying dearly for Branch (1st rounder + $39 million/6yr. deal) but letting Steve Hutchinson, an all-pro OG go to Minnesota. We'll see how that works out for them over the next couple of years.

fretlessman71

08-13-2007, 02:21 PM

Yeah, they're all gambles. IIRC Steve was a bit of an injury liability, and they might just have that hole filled with younger talent. And we still got Walter. The O line is shaping up pretty nicely, I think. SA's going to need the help - I don't care how healed he is, or even thinks he is; I don't think he'll ever sniff the TD record again.

Then again, we DO play in the NFC Worst... ;)

Insidious Rex

08-13-2007, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by D0nc0smic
i know i know, but training camp starts this week ,and as was mentioned in the baseball and beer thread some of us are reds and nationals fans who have nothing better to do than look forward to the skins and bengals starting their seasons

Well Washington fans can probably go straight through to basketball season as I dont see the Skins standing out too much. And the Caps? Come on... Best team to cheer for in DC is the Hoyas. They are a legit top five team.

fretlessman71

08-13-2007, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by Insidious Rex
Best team to cheer for in DC is the Hoyas. They are a legit top five team.

Didn't even realize Georgetown HAD a football team! Wow!

Oh, you mean.... ahh, forget it. Guess you'll just have to hope the Nats amount to something NEXT year...

newportstorm

08-13-2007, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by fretlessman71
Yeah, they're all gambles. IIRC Steve was a bit of an injury liability, and they might just have that hole filled with younger talent. And we still got Walter. The O line is shaping up pretty nicely, I think.

Steve never had the injury bug. He did break his leg in 2002 and missed 12 games. Other than that, he's started all 68 he's played in his career.

The contract was the sticking point. Hutch claims he wanted to re-up with Seattle during the season and get things out of the way. He claims the 'Hawks told him to wait.....and wait.....until he finally got an offer he couldn't refuse from the Vikings. It did contain a controversial "poison pill" clause that was good for Hutch and bad for the 'Hawks, meaning they had to let him go.

Jones is a very good OT and Seattle may very well have some young OL talent but it's hard to replace a perennial all-pro Guard.

Originally posted by fretlessman71
Then again, we DO play in the NFC Worst...

Hardly. The Niners could see a revival this year and Arizona has to get better some day........don't they? :confused:

fretlessman71

08-13-2007, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by newportstorm

Hardly. The Niners could see a revival this year and Arizona has to get better some day........don't they? You been drinking somebody else's Kool-Aid? I mean, REALLY... ;)

larin1477

08-16-2007, 09:55 PM

Anybody interested in a free ...semi competitive...Fantasy football league through ESPN...PM me your email and Ill sen you an invite...need 6 teams..lol

GO PATS!!

D0nc0smic

09-17-2007, 10:49 PM

So where is that guy who lives around here and has the guts to root for the iggles? i know he was here.

D0nc0smic

09-17-2007, 11:52 PM

s o now that my memory has come back to me, KINJAR? WHERE ARE YOU??!! J/K just needed to talk it up while my lowly skins are on top for a bit.

chazwicke

09-18-2007, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by D0nc0smic
s o now that my memory has come back to me, KINJAR? WHERE ARE YOU??!! J/K just needed to talk it up while my lowly skins are on top for a bit.

I hear ya! Hail 'em while we can.

Jake

10-28-2007, 07:46 PM

My first post in this forum because I'm a Lion fan and usually would not have much to say or brag about. Its been a long time since the Lions started 5-2. If Keven Jones stays healthy from here on they might make the playoffs. Kitna is not great but he been steady and plays hard which is what I like about him.

larin1477

11-17-2007, 10:50 AM

Hmm no chemistry huh?...lol....let's see...not only are the Pats winning...they are KILLING teams...(except for the colts which was exactly the game i though it would be between the two best teams in football)

Brady to Moss...god I love hearing that!

Oh and I used to have a little respect for Don Shula (even though he was a Dolphin)...but for him to mention that maybe there should be an (*) in from of our record when we go 19-0. !st of all the pats got caught in the 1st quarter of the 1st game of the season...and since then we have been BLOWING teams out....lol

Insidious Rex

11-19-2007, 02:18 PM

Good for Shula I say. I mean he was the coach of the last team to go undefeated. So hes basically obligated to say something to protect his turf. No biggee in my book. He thinks cheating is disgusting and coached that way himself. Would it have made a difference? Most likely not. The Pats would probably still be 10-0 at this point although if you ask me I think it only gave them incentive to throttle people even more to prove themselves. So ironically, this whole cheating thing may actually help New England in the long run because of its motivational ability. But it will always haunt them unfortunately.

And whats with the going on 4th down when yer blowing a team out by 30 or 40 points? Kick a field goal. Dont make enemies.

All that being said, Ill admit I watch Brady throw touchdowns with glee since hes my starting quarterback on my fantasy team ;) Thank god I decided not to take Reggie Bush with that pick!

newportstorm

11-19-2007, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by Insidious Rex
Good for Shula I say. I mean he was the coach of the last team to go undefeated. So hes basically obligated to say something to protect his turf. No biggee in my book. He thinks cheating is disgusting and coached that way himself.

Somehow, I doubt the "good 'ol days" of football were always so saintly. I've no personal knowledge of Shula's coaching tactics but I've read and seen plenty of tactics used by players of his era that could be considered "cheating" and "disgusting".

Shula need say nothing. His accomplishments speak for themselves and badmouthing another team does nothing but potentially tarnish his legacy. Be classy. Even if the other person may not be.

Originally posted by Insidious Rex
And whats with the going on 4th down when yer blowing a team out by 30 or 40 points? Kick a field goal. Dont make enemies.

I've debated this with some others, and scoring points - be it 3 or 7 - shouldn't earn anyone enemies. The only risk is to the winning team's health. Freak accidents happen. Should they happen on what some consider a meaningless play, that would harm the team. I'd be more worried about that than hurting a professional football player's pride.

Insidious Rex

11-19-2007, 05:46 PM

Oh I know why Belichick does it. Its not necessarily to embarrass the other team and their coach. Its because, according to his logic, hed rather risk giving the ball up inside the other teams ten and have his defense deal with them deep in their own territory (where they are unlikely to get far enough down field to score) rather then kick a sure field goal and then kick off and risk a big run back on special teams. Its just logical to him. His offense is great. His defense is great. So let them both control the ball as much as possible. However… I still think when you are up that big you kick the field goal and risk the kickoff. They aren’t going to lose either way. The injury factor AND the respect factor do play a role in that. Although having said that, for the sake of my fantasy team Im hoping they don’t pull Brady for the last couple of games at the end of the season…

Mill Rat

11-19-2007, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by newportstorm
I've debated this with some others, and scoring points - be it 3 or 7 - shouldn't earn anyone enemies. That all depends on what the point spread was.

BluesHarp

11-24-2007, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by newportstorm
Somehow, I doubt the "good 'ol days" of football were always so saintly. I've no personal knowledge of Shula's coaching tactics but I've read and seen plenty of tactics used by players of his era that could be considered "cheating" and "disgusting".

Shula need say nothing. His accomplishments speak for themselves and badmouthing another team does nothing but potentially tarnish his legacy. Be classy. Even if the other person may not be.

I've debated this with some others, and scoring points - be it 3 or 7 - shouldn't earn anyone enemies. The only risk is to the winning team's health. Freak accidents happen. Should they happen on what some consider a meaningless play, that would harm the team. I'd be more worried about that than hurting a professional football player's pride.

...or the danger of one "unstable" linebacker or dL who decides Brady needs to be bodyslammed ten seconds after the play is over...
Anybody remember Jim McMahon and a nutjob named Charles
Martin??

BTW - Green Bay is having an OK season, too.... :D

newportstorm

11-26-2007, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by BluesHarp
...or the danger of one "unstable" linebacker or dL who decides Brady needs to be bodyslammed ten seconds after the play is over...
Anybody remember Jim McMahon and a nutjob named Charles
Martin??

BTW - Green Bay is having an OK season, too.... :D

Possible. But my guess is new commish Goodell would personally kick that man's rump outta the league.

Green Bay looks solid. Rematch from SB XXXI?

darylM

11-26-2007, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by newportstorm
Possible. But my guess is new commish Goodell would personally kick that man's rump outta the league.

Green Bay looks solid. Rematch from SB XXXI?

I would have to agree. I think the commish has a sledge hammer in his back pocket.

I love watching Green Bay play. I love watching Dallas play. This thursday I hope to see the game and see a good game.
(Grumble: Stupid NFL Network BS)

chazwicke

11-26-2007, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by darylM
I love watching Green Bay play. I love watching Dallas play.

Agree with Green Bay. Strongly disagree with Dallas.

GO GB!!!

steveh

11-26-2007, 02:55 PM

It's football season?

S.

...and I honestly can't believe a true Packers fan actually brought up Charles Marrtin -- what next Harp, vicodin jokes that are a decade old?

;)

BluesHarp

11-27-2007, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by steveh
It's football season?

S.

...and I honestly can't believe a true Packers fan actually brought up Charles Marrtin -- what next Harp, vicodin jokes that are a decade old?

LOL!! The shame of Martin is trumped by hatred of the Bears...although with the exception of one season, "Da Bearsssss" have been almost too pathetic to really hate...
I said ALMOST!! :D

BluesHarp

11-27-2007, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by newportstorm
Possible. But my guess is new commish Goodell would personally kick that man's rump outta the league.

Green Bay looks solid. Rematch from SB XXXI?

Probably, but frustration and adrenelin makes one very strong...and very stupid; and some of these "Wanderlik(sic)Wonders" don't have far to go!

Sure, why not? Although I'm not too confident the outcome would be the same; Moss was always a Packer killer when in Minny, I'm sure he'd relish the chance to do it again. :(

BluesHarp

11-27-2007, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by chazwicke
Agree with Green Bay. Strongly disagree with Dallas.

GO GB!!!

Chaz...you're alright!!!

Isn't it funny how many people don't know there was football before the Super Bowl came into being?

Count ALL championships, look at the name on the Super Bowl Trophy, look at the franchise that has NEVER moved or changed names since it's conception, the team that is part of the two longest rivalries in pro football...that's all you need to know!!

:p