Miller Chill

[Lee]

Has anyone seen this new one from Miller? It's a beer brewed with lime and salt. I know you all will be interested in it so here is the link. https://www.millerchill.com/Default.aspx Better hurry before it's sold out. Lee

[zoom6zoom]

Miller? Um, no.

[Seymour]

Its nastiness knows no peer. I tried it in one of my inexplicable weak moments when it first came out (I still drink Miller High Life on occasion with my dad, so nyah nyah!); tried it four times, in fact, and each time I simply couldn't force myself through the entire bottle. I still have two bottles of the ghastly stuff. Interested in a trade:D ?

[Lee]

I know you all have a morbid curiosity about it. I will try it if I have the chance, but I don't think I could bring myself to pay for it. I saw it for the first time yesterday. There is something about the packaging that catches the eye and yet repels you. You know, like a car accident or dogs having sex. Lee

[zoom6zoom]

No, absolutely no curiosity at all. If you handed me one, I'd hand it back. Not a sip. Too many beers I haven't tried that I know are good from reports from people I trust to waste time on something like this. Sorry if this sounds beer-snobbish but I won't apologize for that. I have never had a Miller product that tasted anything but vile to me.

I've been hit in the head with heavy objects on a few occassions - I'm not willing to take another hit hoping that it might feel better this time.

[Seymour]

Originally posted by Lee
I know you all have a morbid curiosity about it. I will try it if I have the chance, but I don't think I could bring myself to pay for it. I saw it for the first time yesterday. There is something about the packaging that catches the eye and yet repels you. You know, like a car accident or dogs having sex. Lee

Not all, but a few of the more dimwitted ones like me:rolleyes: . I'd recommend you save your coins for better prospects.

[Lee]

I just saw something even crazier than the Frankenmiller. Premixed Clamato and Bud light. How will Coors compete? Lee

[ratman03]

Originally posted by zoom6zoom
No, absolutely no curiosity at all. If you handed me one, I'd hand it back. Not a sip. Too many beers I haven't tried that I know are good from reports from people I trust to waste time on something like this. Sorry if this sounds beer-snobbish but I won't apologize for that. I have never had a Miller product that tasted anything but vile to me.

I've been hit in the head with heavy objects on a few occassions - I'm not willing to take another hit hoping that it might feel better this time.

I too cannot abide the "give the macrobrews a chance" attitude at all. The stuff is bs. Why would you waste your time? But if you do, please offer some tasting notes.

[chazwicke]

They have been having banners flown behind small planes going up and down the beach all week promoting Chiller. My wife even commented on it She knows it is something I would never be interested in.

[Old CW4]

I'm new to this forum so when you folks correct me, please be a little bit gentle. With that out of the way, it is my understanding that all commercial beers transported across state lines, most even in state, are pasteurized.

To do this, the beer is heated close to 200 F and then rapidly cooled. Therefore, the alcohol is boiled off just as when distilling hard liquor. This pure ethyl alcohol is reclaimed and then mixed back into the "sterile" beer at the established strength.

Therefore, commercial beer has become concentrated "gunk" similar to Koolaid. Much of the real flavor and character are lost, cooked out, by the pasteurization process. So why buy and drink it?

Am I totally wrong?

P.S. Have a batch of Irish Stout just about ready to bottle.

[newportstorm]

Originally posted by Old CW4
I'm new to this forum so when you folks correct me, please be a little bit gentle. With that out of the way, it is my understanding that all commercial beers transported across state lines, most even in state, are pasteurized.

To do this, the beer is heated close to 200 F and then rapidly cooled. Therefore, the alcohol is boiled off just as when distilling hard liquor. This pure ethyl alcohol is reclaimed and then mixed back into the "sterile" beer at the established strength.

Therefore, commercial beer has become concentrated "gunk" similar to Koolaid. Much of the real flavor and character are lost, cooked out, by the pasteurization process. So why buy and drink it?

Am I totally wrong?

P.S. Have a batch of Irish Stout just about ready to bottle.

I wouldn't say that all commercial beer is pasteurized. All of the bottled beer from the larger brewers most likely is, but not their kegged beer. Nor is most craft brewed beer in America - bottled or draft.

As for pasteurization, there are several methods that will heat the beer quickly (flash pasteurization) or more slowly and controlled (tunnel pasteurizer). Yes, it's true that in doing so you will lose some flavor and character but the alcohol is not "boiled off" nor is there a need to add it back in. Pasteurization helps ensure a stable beer that doesn't change in flavor profile while it sits on the shelf for (up to) several months.

Any fans of Anchor Brewing products here? You're drinking pasteurized beer, proving pasteurization is not solely to blame for lifeless, flavorless beer.

[BrewDog]

Welcome to the board, Chief-

Just curious, what did you do in the Army? Pilot? Tech related stuff? Master Mechanic, etc? Regardless, I thank you for your service and always held the warrant officers somewhat in awe,
especially the 4's & 5's.

There are a couple things in your post that are often quoted but, sorry, they are known to be myths.

First, commercial beer does NOT have to be pasteurized to cross state lines. Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is a prime example. There is enough yeast in a couple 3 bottles that you can ranch up your own culture and use it in your home brew. There's no NEED to ranch SN yeast, as it is the exact same strain Wyeast 1056, and that fact is acknowledged by both Wyeast and Sierra Nevada.

Pastuerization is always carried out in the final packaging (the bottle or can). Any ethanol that evaporates out only gets into the head space of the package, then it recondenses back into the beer. There is no magic way for them to "distill" then mix it back in.

Yes, you are right, reheating the beer does cause some effect on the taste. For one thing, whatever little yeast that made it through the filtering/centrifuging process is killed, so there is no live yeast to condition the beer. The heat may contribute to ruining the taste directly, but that is debated. Most pasteurized beer tastes like crap because they MADE it that way, not the result of the pasteurization process itself.

HTH-

[Old CW4]

Thank you very much! I stand corrected and shouldn't have been repeating bull I found on the web.

As for my military background. Spent most of my 25 years in military intelligence (great oxymoron) and spec ops. Retired 1 Nov 81 after coming back, sicker than a dog, from a tour in Sudan. Worked in the intel and security fields for DOE and DoD another 15 years and finally hung it up for good in late 96.

Now gainfully retired on a few acres in Valencia County, NM, about 25 miles south of Albuquerque. I'll be 73 this fall and here I am, finally getting into home brewing---something I should have done a long time ago. I started out with a V vessel and, so far, like it fine. Have it hidden back in a corner of my laundry room where it's dark and reasonably cool. The location should be perfect for winter brewing also since my house is adobe with 18 inch thick walls, exterior and interior. That huge thermal mass keeps the temps pretty even year round.

Again, thanks for the info and correction. I live to learn.

[BrewDog]

No problem. Glad to help.

I was a Sig officer back in the '80s. We had one of the very first crop promoted to the then brand new rank of CW5 in my BN. Great guy. He taught this lowly LT a few things and I was always grateful to him for that.

Hope you'll stick around. This is a friendly site full of guys who love to make and drink good beer.

[zoom6zoom]

pasteurized - no. Pasturlips - eventually.

[cul8rv8]

arise from the dead.... :)

I actually tried one of these last night as I was at a friends parents house, and my choices were this or Corona. I think I need better friends sometimes. lol

Anyways, I barely could finish the one I had, I did not like it one bit. No idea how they get the salt flavor in there, but it's just wrong. So I e-mail a fellow homebrewer/craft brew drinker about my experience, stating the same thing, I don't know how they get the salt in there. Here was his response...


I heard that they brew that beer on an oil rig (at sea).

The oil workers brew it in their off time.

Non-filtered sea water is used during the brewing process which gives it a "salty" character.

The lime flavor is actually derived from sea algae.

The crew from "Deadliest Catch" has to be in the area while brewing to catch crabs, so that they do not effect the quality of the nearby sea water and give the beer a "fishy" taste.

The brew room is located next to the men's bathroom on the oil rig.

Every effort is made so that the stench from the bathroom does not leach over into the beer batch.

When the beer is finished, the Pirates of the Caribbean pick up the batch and deliver it to Customs for inspection and tasting.

Then, every major gas station in America sends a minimum wage employee to pick up their share.

The minimum wage employees then deliver the beer to their respective gas stations using their old Mitsubishi and Isuzu pick ups.


And yes, I am completely talking out of my arse!


I about fell out of my chair laughing.

[steveh]

Nice.

S.

[larin1477]

Sounds like your friend is giving away Miller's secrets...lmao...
Never tried it ...never will

[cul8rv8]

Originally posted by larin1477
Never tried it ...never will

I wish I would have done the same, but with those as my only choices, I thought, "it can't be any worse than Corona." Oops...

[larin1477]

Originally posted by cul8rv8
I wish I would have done the same, but with those as my only choices, I thought, "it can't be any worse than Corona." Oops...

Hey we all make mistakes ...Lord knows I did when I married my Ex-Wife!...:D

[HarkJohnny]

Originally posted by larin1477
Hey we all make mistakes ...Lord knows I did when I married my Ex-Wife!...

that's what you get for marrying an Ex :p

[iahebert]

I know i'll be smacked in the face (and probably should be shot) but I had it and it wasn't too bad. Of course I'm a fan of putting lime and salt into a mexican beer like Dos Equis or Negro Modelo.

I'd give it a shot, it's not as bad as miller or bud, etc, but still not too horrible.

meanwhile **off topic**
I'm thinking of a mexican beer. any good recipes in the recipe section?

[DecoJuicer]

Originally posted by BrewDog

I was a Sig officer back in the '80s. We had one of the very first crop promoted to the then brand new rank of CW5 in my BN. Great guy. He taught this lowly LT a few things and I was always grateful to him for that.

Just to jump this thread back off track for a minute, a few months back, the emergency dispatch center that I work for got a call from a woman who was cleaning out her deceased fathers home. She found two bombs, and called us right away. We in turn called Selfridge ANG, who sent out the EOD unit. A Captain and a Staff Sergeant came out and determined that, yes indeed, they were bombs. Turns out that they were hand bombs that pilots in WWI used to carry. They pilots would drop them out of the cockpit of their planes at targets on the ground.

So the EOD guys bring the bombs back to the park behind the police station and we evacuate the park. They dig a hole, put the bombs inside, place some plastic explosives around it and back everybody up 300 meters.

This is when I decide that it would be a good time to take my lunch and go watch.

I walk up to the EOD team and the Sergeant is patiently explaining, and re-explaining how to operate the remote to the Captain, who keeps asking the same questions again and again. That's when I( a terminal smart-ass) state that I think I understand how to do it, and ask if I can press the trigger. The Sergeant tries to hide a smile while the Captain shoots me a dirty look. My Lt. stares daggers at me, and I put a pinch of Skoal in my lip to keep from laughing.

They finally detonate and it turns out that the bombs were live. As they walked away, the Sergeant gives me a wink and a punch on the shoulder.

My Lt. was mad at me for about a week, but it was worth it.

Thanks to all of you guys who have served your country in time of war and peace.

Back on topic...I must say that Chiller sounds awful, but I will probably try it someday anyway. At least then I can say that I tried it, and it was awful.

[BathroomBrew]

I picked up a 6 pack of it last night. I wouldn't call the taste of it bad. More like no taste at all.

Deffinetly something thaat i wouln't buy again.
If someone offers to let you try go for it, but don't waste your money on this one.

[chazwicke]

They have been playing and playing and playing and playing the commercial on TV in my area.

[dlsolt]

actually the stuff isn't that bad... if you like corona, it's similar.

[L.H.H.H.Brown]

Went to my paint store and asked them ( as a joke ) what they thought about it.... they said that a couple of guys that worked next door tried it and said it sucked. I personally had no intention of trying it but ...... glad to see the big guys making options for the masses. I also saw the Clamato/Bud mix.... YUM!! That ditty on how they make it on an oil rig was a hoot.

[hooky]

I had some last weekend while helping my brother with the house he's building himself. Given how hot it was outside and how thirsty I was from mixing mortar and hanging fake rock, it was drinkable. Salt dominated the lime and a little bit of beer taste in the middle. It reminded me of drinking gatorade. I couldn't drink anymore than one.

I can say that I've tried it now, and laugh about the idea of buying it with a clear conscience.

[Partsfreak]

My wife brought me home a sixer last week. That is the worst tasting beer I can ever remember trying. Still 5 left if anyone wants it. Or should I try pouring back into the mule it came out of?:p