Fall back beers

[hopjack13]

i don't know how many times i've been out to dinner and what not, or maybe just a bar to kill some time . and when ready to order a beer , found there wasn't any.....except the big three. but there always seemed to be snpa in a bottle to fall back on. when i was on catalina island there was nothing either, however i did find pauliner (sp?) and guinness to fall back on. what are some of the better beers you've found to fall back on in times like theses?

[Jeff]

Since I live 2 hours from Kansas City, you can pretty much find Boulevard Wheat on tap or bottle anywhere. I just wish they would get Boulevard Pale Ale on tap at more bars.

[steveh]

I think the same holds true in the Chicago area as it does for Jeff in K.C., you can almost always find Goose Island. If not Sam Adam's is pretty common too.

Over the last 10 years or so, I've noticed that I've been able to find good selections just about everywhere but the most staunch hold-out of a tavern.

S.

[newportstorm]

Most places will have Sam Lager in a bottle as a safe bet. Bass and Guinness are pretty common as well. Nothing wrong with SNPA or Paulaner as a fall-back beer, either. If I'm local, though, I always ask for Newport Storm if I don't see it. Fresh, local beer is best.

Cheers!

[hopjack13]

damn.... you guys are lucky, i wish california would come around and start carrying better beer in the bars and eating establishments. most places out here consider hini or corona a premium top of the line beer. i went to a mexican restaurant this weekend and they had casta....the pale ale was bland , the dark was malty good, and the hef was okay. i didn't try the milenia, although i hear it's the best they make, at $20 a 750ml bottle ....well maybe next time. but the food was as good as the beer, not a lot of places can say the same out this way. it's either one or the other.

[Jeff]

Hop if it makes you feel any better, this weekend I went into a hole in the wall bar and asked for a SNPA they said they didn't have it. However, the bartender was kind enough to mention that the closest beer they had to the SNPA was a Heinekrap. I went with the Boulevard Wheat on tap, and the jackass put a lemon in it.

[barley ben]

If I went to a bar in my area and asked for a SN they would have no idea what I was talking about. I only go to one bar around my area and thats for Guinness and Harp on tap. Thats as good as it gets around here. I'm only 30-45 minutes away from Yards and Flying Fish and the only place to get one on tap seems to be one expensive restraunt or drive up to the bars in that area. South Jersey is the bad beer capital of the world!!

[barley ben]

Oh yeah, that's why I brew my own!!!!

[hopjack13]

Originally posted by Jeff
Hop if it makes you feel any better, this weekend I went into a hole in the wall bar and asked for a SNPA they said they didn't have it. However, the bartender was kind enough to mention that the closest beer they had to the SNPA was a Heinekrap. I went with the Boulevard Wheat on tap, and the jackass put a lemon in it.

heinekrap ..lol
as for the wheat they usually ask if you want the lemon around here. where is the brewery for the boulevard wheat located?

[Jeff]

Boulevard Brewing Company is located in Kansas City. I've heard they have a great tour, but haven't been able to go yet.

[S.F.B.]

Not to rub it in or anything :D but living in Portland you almost always have a real good selection of beer to choose from. Local breweries include Widmer and Portland Brewing. Not local but always easy to find in bars and restaurants, Rogue, Full Sail and Deschuttes.

Out here bars won't survive without at least 10 taps with good brews flowing from them. At least I won't be found in them.

[hopjack13]

yeah sure .......rub it in pal! :p
maybe i'll move to portland ????
my faves from the northwest are hair of the dog and i love the bridgeport i.p.a.

[threecb]

I'd have to say in Central NJ that it's Yeungling or Sam Adams that's usually the fallback beer on tap. I run into SNPA and Anchor in Bottles, too, in nicer restaurants with a meager beer list.

[steveh]

Originally posted by S.F.B.
Not to rub it in or anything :D but living in Portland you almost always have a real good selection of beer to choose from.

Portland was the first place I ever saw the back wall of a bar - all 20 feet or so - lined with tap-handles. And all good beer! Not a swill to be had.

Since then, I've seen bars in the Chi area doing the same thing, but nothing will top the euphorea of seeing that first wall of tap-handles!

S.

[skahtboi]

Almost everywhere in Texas one can find Shiner Bock on tap, which is a far cry better than having to drink a A-B, Miller, or Coors product. However, most of the places that I frequent have Murphy's Irish Stout, Guinness, Newcastle, et al on tap. A lot of places around here also have Fat Tire on tap, which will always do in a pinch.

Hell, at the DP/7Up Ballpark in Frisco (home to the AA Roughriders), you can watch the game while drinking Shiner, Amstel Light, Guinness, SNPA, Fat Tire, Harp, Dos Equis Amber (which ain't too bad), and several other non-yellow fizz brews.

[hops99]

I'm surprised you can't find Anchor in most bars in California. I remember on a trip to San Fran a few years ago, Anchor was everywhere - even the airport, and I think Anchor Steam is a great utilitarian brew. Or, maybe Anchor's reach doesn't extend much further than the Bay Area?

[brewmonkey]

Originally posted by Jeff
Boulevard Brewing Company is located in Kansas City. I've heard they have a great tour, but haven't been able to go yet.

The tour is OK, but it is given by volunteers who know the bare minimum about the brewery and any process involved.

[Herb Ninja]

Not local but always easy to find in bars and restaurants, Rogue, Full Sail and Deschuttes.

Lucky bugger. I love the Full Sail Rip Curl and Deschuttes has some fine brews as well. In hawaii heniecrap, as jeff calls it, is pretty much everyones beer of choice, except of course me. Its really good to some people, I won't ever understand it. Maybe they think that because its from the netherlands and its foreign so its gotta be good, truth is its probably the worst beer in the netherlands along with that amstel beer. ICK!

Ohh and whenever you order a wheat beer, no matter where you are, ask for no lemon. That is of course, if you don't like lemon. Don't need to call the guy an asshole for putting it in your beer, he was trying to do you a favor as much as he may have failed.

;) Peace-

[chazwicke]

Most bars and restraunts here have the usual Guinness, Bass, Heineken, Sam Adams or Yuengling. Many also have Old Dominion Breweries Beers on tap or Foggy Bottom in Bottles. Old Dominion makes fine beer including Tupper's Hop Pocket. They seem to have several "Put your name here beers" which they sell to restraunts all over the state. So if you are in say Hard Times Chili Parlor and you are ordering a Hard Times Select, It is usually a Dominion product. This is true from Northern Virginia all the way to Williamsburg.

[batkins]

Out here bars won't survive without at least 10 taps with good brews flowing from them. At least I won't be found in them. [/B]

It's a beautiful thing, isn't it! When you are have to "settle" for a BridgePort IPA, how bad can life really be?
I could not believe it when I moved here and 25-30 taps wasn't that unusual.
Like I said...........what a beautiful thing!
Cheers,
Bill

[Brewdepest]

Since we have one of the fastest growing universities in the nation here, we also have one of the fastest growing neo-hippie communities. Bad part, I smell patchouli mixed with BO a little too often. Good part, most of the bars are catching on to the fact that trustafarians will pay more and tip better if they get better beers. Thus, many establishments have added Newcastle and Bass to their selection of bottles. There are still some bars, however, that really get rubbed raw if you don't want a Buttweiper.

[BluesHarp]

ah...Sweet Home, Wisconsin...I always have at least Capital, Sprecher, or New Glarus to fall back on.

I did go to a family birthday party once at a tiny place in the middle of nowhere that had me panicking for a while; actually, it was my wifes family, mine wouldn't have a gathering without goood beer...anyway; they had a free keg of miller lite..nope.
I went out to the bar...miller, M lite, Bud, bud lite. I saw something called 1890's style draft, thought it might have possibilities...turned out to be root beer.

Not being one to give up (or go sober), I called over the bartender; a cute twenty-something with nice...well, that's not important now. I told her I was looking for a microbrew or at least an imported beer...she said they used to have some Irish beer...killians... but didn't think they had them anymore, nobody ever drank them...did i mention she had nice.....

Still not discouraged, I asked her to check further; as luck would have it, they had one sixer of Leinies Red and about four bottles of Creamy Dark in the back room.

In the course of the night, I drank all of that and finished off with the single St. Paulie Dark she managed to find in the back of the cooler.

The best part was, she seemed so intrigued by the guy who drank the fancy beers, I only paid for about half of them!

It's not every day you can honestly say you went into a bar and drank them out of every good beer they had. :D

[b3s]

i only miss WI for one reason...LAKE FRONT BREWERY! those were my fall back beers.....i'd go to the source in downtown milwaukee and say "what's the freshest you got" -- and buy a case...buddy of mine came out in august (we were going to moab to wreck our jeeps) and i told him to bring me a case of east side dark...bastard forgot to tell me that river west was in season!

*sigh* lake front brewery has some really, really, really good beers that i can't get here (my local carries cream city pale and that pumpkin lager junk...i want east side dark, river west, and their holiday!).

i guess my standby will always be guiness draught and fullers (when i can get the bca stuff) now. not all that impressed with the CO beers so far.

[BluesHarp]

Hey B3s...
I take it you live in Colorado (CO?)...Have you tried any Avery beers? I get them here in WI at Brennans in Brookfield; I haven't been disapointed by any of them yet...I especially like their Hog Heaven Barleywine...actually is more of a supercharged IPA...but quite good!

Not to rub it in, but the Lakefront Oktoberfest is especially good this year...and their brewery tour is second to none; $5.00 for all the beer you can drink, and a free pint glass!!

[jlttb]

Yes, you know you're in trouble when you ask what's on tap, and they start, "Bud.... Bud Light...(long pause)..."
In New York you can almost always get Sam or Becks.
The whole beer scene is so much better than it was 20 years ago that it seems unfair to complain. When I started at college, Coors was exotic (really).

[b3s]

i have a few lakefront brewery pint glasses (not real pints, but the american kind)...best bargain around...$5 for 5 pints and an entertaining tour to boot...and if you can talk them into it, you can take a slide down barney brewers slide!

i miss the lakefront brewery oktoberfest (i do, however, prefer the riverwest)...however, i have a stealth shipment of a case coming soon ;)

no, i have not tried avery...i've started to get gunshy on these allegedly great CO beers. flat tire...avalanche (sheesh, that is a horrid stout IMO)...odells...not a fan...maybe these guys just got too big for their britches? i do like tommyknockers amber, but i got that out in milwaukee when i lived there!

i'll give avery a try, though.

[hops99]

Whoa, back up the truck!

Are you telling us that the old slide from County Stadium - the one the guy slid down after every Brewers home run, is at the Lakefront Brewery?

As a kid back in '82, I thought there was nothing cooler on this earth, than that slide when "Harvey's Wallbangers" went to work. I've always liked Lakefront's products, but this would give me another reason to make it back to Milwaukee...

[chazwicke]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BluesHarp
[B]Hey B3s...
I take it you live in Colorado (CO?)...Have you tried any Avery beers?

We get the Avery beers here too (DC area). I think the ipa is good.

[steveh]

Originally posted by hops99
Whoa, back up the truck!

Are you telling us that the old slide from County Stadium - the one the guy slid down after every Brewers home run, is at the Lakefront Brewery?

As a kid back in '82, I thought there was nothing cooler on this earth, than that slide when "Harvey's Wallbangers" went to work. I've always liked Lakefront's products, but this would give me another reason to make it back to Milwaukee...

Yeah, the Klisch Bros. bought the slide when they tore down the old County Stadium to build (ugh) Miller Park. They used to charge a pittance for a slide and would donate the money to charity...however, some schmuck hurt himself and a whole brew-ha-ha (pun intended) ensued - and the slide is now closed to the public. :/

S.

[BluesHarp]

Sad, but true...no rides on Bernie's slide; but still $5.00 for 4 or 5 pints, a free glass, and an entertaining tour...can't be bad!

[fretlessman71]

Originally posted by b3s
i've started to get gunshy on these allegedly great CO beers. flat tire...avalanche (sheesh, that is a horrid stout IMO)...odells...not a fan...

I will agree with you on all of the above but ONE count: Odell's 90 Shilling is probably the best beer I've had in Colorado. Have you really never had it? If you tried it and didn't like it, I'll bet you had a bad bottle. Get a fresh one! It's really a unique ale.

Breckenridge Brewery might as well just give up if you ask me. They specialize in making brown liquid with fizz and alcohol look tasty so that skiers can go get drunk and look trendy doing it.

Fat Tire is the worst beer that New Belgium makes. Try the others - especially their Abbey and Trippel!

Go get yourself some Bristol Old No. 23 barelywine, Left Hand Imperial Stout, Boulder Singletrack Ale, Tabernash Dunkelweiss... you won't be disappointed!

PLEASE don't give up on CO beer... it's one of the main reasons we're looking at moving back there!

[steveh]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
Fat Tire is the worst beer that New Belgium makes. Try the others - especially their Abbey and Trippel!

And I'm about to post a review on NB's Porch Swing (Belgian) Pale Ale over in the Tastings Notes. What a wonderful surprise of a beer - this is the one they should be putting into the big bottles, not Flat Tire.

S.

[b3s]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
I will agree with you on all of the above but ONE count: Odell's 90 Shilling is probably the best beer I've had in Colorado. Have you really never had it? If you tried it and didn't like it, I'll bet you had a bad bottle. Get a fresh one! It's really a unique ale.

no, i had a different odell's on tap somewhere and it just didn't go down well.

Breckenridge Brewery might as well just give up if you ask me. They specialize in making brown liquid with fizz and alcohol look tasty so that skiers can go get drunk and look trendy doing it.

i concur...i can't stand any of their beers.

Fat Tire is the worst beer that New Belgium makes. Try the others - especially their Abbey and Trippel!

tried those, too. tasted flat. the one beer of theirs i liked was the 1554 belgian dark ale...only place i've found it, though, is in the red lion in vail. it was definitely a dark belgian ale.

Go get yourself some Bristol Old No. 23 barelywine, Left Hand Imperial Stout, Boulder Singletrack Ale, Tabernash Dunkelweiss... you won't be disappointed!

PLEASE don't give up on CO beer... it's one of the main reasons we're looking at moving back there!

well, i keep trying them...i'll give those you mentioned a try as well, if i can find them.

[threecb]

Is Fat Tire really that horrible of a beer?

Several people i've spoken to, including my wife (who hasn't had it in, like, 5 years, admittedly) have said it's a decent beer. The way it is talked about on this site, you'd think it was macroswill...

And I agree with Fret on the Breck stuff...had it in Breckinridge a couple of years ago and was not impressed at all. But are you insinuating that all skiers are trendy drunks!?!? I'm a skier and take exception to that! ;)

[steveh]

Originally posted by threecb
Is Fat Tire really that horrible of a beer?

Several people i've spoken to, including my wife (who hasn't had it in, like, 5 years, admittedly) have said it's a decent beer. The way it is talked about on this site, you'd think it was macroswill...

The slams to Fat Tire started coming because it has always been lauded as such a *great* beer, and I have friends from Colorado who just RAVE about it. It's just okay, and not NB's best beer - by a long shot.

I think we all agreed that it was a great transition beer from swill to micros, but definitely not deserving of all the praise it's been given.

S.

[b3s]

is is the worlds most horrid beer? no...is it worth all the hype? no.

at best it's an average beer...making it head and shoulders above the macros, but it's just not a great beer.

[fretlessman71]

b3s, you need to pick a day and hit a few breweries in No. CO so you can have this stuff fresh. Better yet, the next time my wife and I are in town, maybe we'll meet up and have a tasting or something!

By the way, have you been to the Wynkoop in LoDo yet? I never got to go...:(

[b3s]

well, let me know when you're back in town, i'm still trying to figure this place out.

i have not been to wynkoop in lodo yet. actually, i've only made it down to lodo a few times, a little too crazy for me :)

[steveh]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
By the way, have you been to the Wynkoop in LoDo yet? I never got to go...

Oh yeah, THERE's a fun joint! Good beer too. And "hail to the chief!"

S.

[hops99]

I certainly agree that Fat Tire is not a great beer, not New Belgium's best (not even close), and is generally overrated. However, I've always felt that it is a respectable brew in and of itself. As I posted on the Porch Swing thread, it does have a subtle biscuity, roasted flavor, and is a great "session" or "garage" beer. Furthermore, the fact that some people put in the same class as macro swill, is just plain ignorance, man. There aren't any adjuncts in Fat Tire, for starters, and it doesn't resemble the taste of a macro "pils" in any way.

I think the main reason why there's so much Fat Tire backlash out there these days is the fact that it's become so damn popular. Overexposure has started to dull Fat Tire's appeal for most craft beer lovers (myself partially included); I think I read somewhere a while back that Fat Tire has jumped into the top 10 nationally in volume sales for a single beer (#8 or #9, if I recall). It's become mainstream, even though I've never seen a mega-million dollar campaign with T&A galore promoting it. THAT is pretty damn impressive, if you ask me.

It's akin to a punk/alternative band becoming popular after several years of artistic excellence, and then having most of their core fans turn on them, because the very fact that they've become popular means that they've "sold out". Remember U2, REM, and others? What a load of crap.

Alright, I guess my rant is over - whew! Comparing Fat Tire to Bono...I definitely need a beer.

[chazwicke]

Calm down Hopps! I think fat tire is a very passable beer. It would not be my first choice either. But if it was all that was offered I would take it. (Now Brownbeard, That WOULD be an opportunity missed). I respect NB as a brewery and recall being at a beer tasting several years ago at the Brickskeller where founder Jeff Liebisch (Spelling?) was telling the story of how he started as a home brewer and out grew his house. If I recall his wife was severely nagging him as all women will do. He also told of stealing yeast from a Belgian brewery to propagate and use in his beer. Fat Tire was named such because of Jeff's passion for mountain biking. I recall there being a slide show that depicted his old brewery and the beginnings of the newer facility. I was suprised to see how widespread his Fat tire had become on a trip I took to CO in 1999. I like some of the other NB brews better but I definitley gotta respect how NB got to where it is today. Is Jeff Liebisch still involved with the brewery?

[b3s]

i agree, hops99. i think some of it is a matter perspective and personal taste, too. like i said before, i don't think it's all that great of a beer...but i totally agree that to compare it to, say, bud or natural light, is also unfair. given the choice between bud or coors, i'll have whiskey. given the choice between bud and fat tire, i'll take fat tire any day of the week and twice on sunday.

the reason i am so down on fat tire is because it's taste does not reflect its hype. like i said before, i've only had one new belgian beer that i enjoyed...the 1554...which i had on tap. the wheat didn't really impress me, nor did the abbey or trippel (i'll give them another go, though, as it could have been a bad sixer).

[steveh]

Originally posted by hops99
Furthermore, the fact that some people put in the same class as macro swill, is just plain ignorance, man. There aren't any adjuncts in Fat Tire, for starters, and it doesn't resemble the taste of a macro "pils" in any way.

Whoa - wait, I don't think anyone ever put it in the same category as a macro-swill. That's never been the discussion, just the over-hype of a pretty average micro beer. Given the choice of only MGD or Fat Tire, sure there's no second thought. Given the choice between Oberon or Alpha King or (now that I've tasted it) Porch Swing and Fat Tire - the fat tire loses.

Heck, I'd even pick Fat Tire over many of the Sam products and probably all of the current Pete's selection. But rave over it as I do Oberon every first sighting of the Summer, no.

Oh, and I'd pick a U-2 song to listen to over White Stripes any day...but that's probably another forum. ;)

S.

[Jeff]

I'm not quite sure where everybody is getting this hype over fat tire. They don't advertise, no athletes have been seen holding a trusty bottle. It is a very popular beer with macro drinkers because it is a little bland (Which in my mind means there is hope for this world). I think the hype might come from the fact that it is seen in all the liquor stores, and on tap in a lot of bars. But this comes from demand, not from hype.

[hops99]

Man, I'm getting crabby as I get older and fatter....

Chaz: Yes, I believe that Jeff and his wife are still the owners, and they're as inventive as ever (i.e. La Folie, Transatlatique Kriek, etc.).

Steveh: Hey, you know I'd drink Oberon over Fat Tire in a heartbeat. And BTW, I couldn't agree with you more about U2.

Jeff: You condensed my point, exactly. Everybody is talking about the hype, the hype, the hype, but as far as I can see, there is no hype, other than grass roots recommendations. No major advertising, nothing of the sort.

I guess I'd seen Fat Tire take a beating for months on the site, and felt a strange urge to defend it, because I have read some comments (although not on this thread) in the past that have grouped it into macro swill, which I thought were way off-base.

Getting back to the topic of "Fall-Back" beers though, I think Fat Tire is a fine fall-back beer (if you're West of the Mississippi). Nothing to go out of your way for, but perfectly respectable to drink if it's on the table in front of you. Just my two cents worth...

[hopjack13]

i had a flat tire in dallas airport a year or so ago, people can hype up a beer...the bartender certainly did on this occasion.
i thought the beer lacked character and depth, it wasn't offensive ....it just wasn't very interesting. probably why so many people like it , it doesn't offend.

Oh, and I'd pick a U-2 song to listen to over White Stripes any day...but that's probably another forum.
hey i like the white stripes. there're only two people and two instruments in the group , there're pretty talented i think.

[ray m]

I would have to echo the sentiments about Flat Tire. When I was vacationing in Wyoming this summer, I saw Flat Tire in some liquor/beer store next to an Albertson's and immediately snatched a 6 pack---primarily because I recall my next-door neighbor practically busted a nut talking about it. I was extremely disappointed. I expected so much more. Granted, it was definitely not on the same sea-bed level as A-B, etc., and I would certainly take it over the piss brews any day. But it was just very, very ordinary to me...

[Fast_Eddy]

Well hell - I've had a few...let me weigh in on this Fat Tire dealie.

I think maybe Fat Tire fills the niche of being a "Beginner Beer" these days. Which is to say it's a departure from macro-swill but not a radical one but it has all of the taste components of beer. It's a beer that macro-swill drinkers taste(and subsequently rave about - I've heard it quite a few times from friends that drink Bud, MGD, etc) and it piques their interest in a direction towards real beer(not the CAMRA definition, but you get what I'm talking about). To me(us?), it just a step(or two) up from bland but still nothing technically wrong with it. I find it to be acceptable and uninteresting - it seems to make me belch a lot for some reason.

Back on thread topic - my favorite fall back beer is Sam Adams Lager. If I didn't brew so much, I'd probably keep a sixer of the Boston Lager around the house. I love the way the hop flavor sings out in that beer. Lots of places around Austin have Bass in the bottle too - this is my second fall back. I no longer consider Shiner to be a fall back - IMO(this is not going to sit well with the rest of the TX guys) Shiner is one iity-tiny-smidgen of a step better than any of the other macro-swill sold in Texas.

[fretlessman71]

Yeah... it's not the worst beer I've ever had. It's just not remarkable. If it serves its purpose by drawing in Bud drinkers and opening their eyes to a whole new world of beer, fantastic! Make more Fat Tire!

Something else to ponder: consider the source. If your friend (this is not addressed to anyone in particular) is talking about Fat Tire as if it should only be served in the Holy Grail, take a quick look at what's in his fridge. If he's drinking Rolling Rock because he thinks it tastes imported, you KNOW you're dealing with an amateur! ;) Skunky green bottles, indeed... And I've given up wondering what "33" means on their bottle. I just don't care.

BTW, I'm hearing RAVES about New Belgium's Porch Swing and the Grand Abbey Cru. Rock on with your bad selves, NB!

And Sam Adams is still a decent beer (better than Fat Tire to me). Especially on a very hot day! The Sam light tastes blah... are they really hurting that badly for money?

To me, the best fall back beer is anything from Sierra Nevada. I can find their Pale Ale almost anywhere now, and it's consistently unbelievable! The Porter is even better, and to be honest I'm having a hard time finding any company who makes ALL of their beer taste that good all the time like SN. It's GOTTA be in the yeast strain, right?

[jlttb]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
To me, the best fall back beer is anything from Sierra Nevada. I can find their Pale Ale almost anywhere now, and it's consistently unbelievable! The Porter is even better, and to be honest I'm having a hard time finding any company who makes ALL of their beer taste that good all the time like SN. It's GOTTA be in the yeast strain, right?

I gotta ask, if Sierra's your fall-back, what beer are you looking for?

[toneyc]

Fast_Eddy, I agree with you on Shiner. Shiner "Bock" tastes like detergent to me. Shiner Blonde is better.

I've had several New Belgium Beers. Blue Paddle, Porch Swing, 1554, Frambozen and Fat Tire. They've all been OK, middle of the road beers. Nothing to write home about. The only one that stands out in my memory is the Frambozen because it was so different from anything else I've ever had.

The Rio Blanco Pale Ale from the Real Ale Brewing Company was pretty good, but I didn't like their Full Moon Pale Rye.

I love SNPA, but I think I burned myself out on it. Bass is good. Sam Adams ain't my thang.

:)
Toney.

[steveh]

Originally posted by hopjack13
hey i like the white stripes. there're only two people and two instruments in the group , there're pretty talented i think.

Didn't they used to be called Timbuk-Three? Oops, sorry - off subject again! ;)

S.

BTW - If you really know the band and their music (WS), I agree with their teacher...

[fretlessman71]

Originally posted by jlttb
I gotta ask, if Sierra's your fall-back, what beer are you looking for?

The Holy (gr)Ale, of course! :D

Actually, there IS a Monty Python influenced beer called just that... Haven't had the courage to buy it for fear of the disappointment I could have, and then transfer that to the comedy group...

I keep trying to TRY new beers. For whatever reason I'm dissatisfied more often than not, and since I can always find SNPA I think I'll just keep a sixer in the fridge from now on. Or better yet, brew something even BETTER!

[jlttb]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
The Holy (gr)Ale, of course! :D

Actually, there IS a Monty Python influenced beer called just that...

I bought the Holy Grail Ale last month, but it's at the bottom of my friend's cooler! We'll dig it out soon!
Continue the quest!

[steveh]

Whew - I'm glad it wasn't called Norwegian Blue, or Spring Surprise! Worse yet, Crunchy Frog! ;D

S.

[Fast_Eddy]

Or Blanc Mange ;)

[hopjack13]

QUOTE]Originally posted by fretlessman71
And I've given up wondering what "33" means on their bottle. I just don't care.
[/QUOTE]

from my understanding it was a typo , if you count the words on the back of the bottle they total 33, when they sent it down to labling they put 33 on the memo as in how many words needed to be printed,or maybe they chrged by the word i don't remember which, whom ever got the memo put the 33 on the bottle and only after making a gazillion of them did they realize thier mistake. it was too late by then so they just kept it on there and the brewery said it stood for the year the 18th amendment was repealed.

another storie is that the $$$ they used to start the brewery with came from betting on a horse named old latrobe (sp?) #33 and thats why the horse is on the front

which i think is b.s. i don't think i've been to a horse race where the #'s on the horses were ever that high...I could be wrong though...but that hardly ever happens :rolleyes:

[steveh]

Originally posted by Fast_Eddy
Or Blanc Mange ;)

LOL!

Spam?

S.

[threecb]

Originally posted by steveh

Spam?


Spam spam spam spam, spam spam spam spam, spammity spam, wonderful spam!

[fretlessman71]

Jeez... you make ONE Monty Python reference, and the whole thread goes to HECK in a handbasket....

Huber Bock would be a good fall back beer if I could get it around here. It was cheap, reasonably drinkable, and the boxes and the bottles were GREAT for homebrew!

[steveh]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
Jeez... you make ONE Monty Python reference, and the whole thread goes to HECK in a handbasket....

"No it hasn't!

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you came here for an argument..."

S.

Hehehehehehehehe - I was giggling about Blanc Mange beer all evening!!

[threecb]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
Jeez... you make ONE Monty Python reference, and the whole thread goes to HECK in a handbasket....


sorry, it's hard to resist when Pythonisms rear their ugly heads...i shall refrain from this in the future...:rolleyes:

[chazwicke]

Go away or I will taunt you a second time!

[BluesHarp]

...a beer to open up the sluices at both ends...

[b3s]

ok, fretless...had a 90 schilling today...i reverse my statement on CO beers...it was a pretty damn good beer!

one that i'll find myself purchasing often!

[fretlessman71]

I TOLD YOU!!!! It's really unique, isn't it?

[b3s]

it's a damn good beer, that's for sure...and definitely unique. i didn't expect that flavor!

[fretlessman71]

See, THIS beer - Odells 90 Shilling - is the main reason I'm disappointed in NB Fat Tire. Nothing really WRONG with Fat Tire... just not remarkable. Very average. Drinkable, but not that enjoyable. And everybody in Colorado just went GAGA for it! I couldn't figure it out... The Odell Brewing Co. is about a mile from New Belguim, and NOBODY SEEMS TO KNOW ABOUT 90 SHILLING! My theory is that everyone in CO knows what you mean when you talk about mountain bikes (If you're used to seeing a $4500 bike on top of a $600 car, you're probably a CO native), and when the beer came out called Fat Tire, all the bikers adopted it as their own, and legend did what it normally does, and Odell just got lost in the shuffle. Maybe the next time I go back to CO I'll get a whole bunch of Odell products and we can have another swap. Whaddya think?

[Fast_Eddy]

Originally posted by chazwicke
Go away or I will taunt you a second time!

Fetchez la vache!

[b3s]

well, i ain't a CO native...but my 40 minute drive to work each day i see enough of the expensive mountain bikes on top of crap cars :)

NB just doesn't make that great of beers...they're OK...well, they're pretty damn good compared to bud and the like, but in the grand scheme of things, they're OK.

now that i have found 90 schilling my faith in all this "CO beers are awesome" statement has been reaffirmed!

[fretlessman71]

Don't give up on NB just yet... what all have you had of theirs? Go and get their Porch Swing - I'm hearing great things about it from steveh. (Wish I'd had the foresight to save one for myself... GRRR...) Next time you head up north to Ft. Collins, stop by the brewery - they have a tasting room where you can buy what you like the taste of nice and fresh. Believe me, I used to be very incensed at New Belguim for making boring beer and touting it as microbrewery craft beer until I got to try some fresh ale of theis. Instant convert. (Still think Odell is a better brand, though... ;) )

[fretlessman71]

AND... for those of you who insist on making more Python references.... your MOTHER was a HAMSTER and your FATHER smelled of ELDERBERRIES!:D

[b3s]

of NB i've had the abbey (which i thought to be flat), trippel (which wasn't bad), flat tire (which is boring), and 1554 (which i found VERY good). oh, i also had the wheat, which was disappointing.

i don't get up to fort collins during biz hours that much...but if i do, i'll get a FRESH case of 90 schilling and whatever else is fresh, just because i liked 90 schilling so much.

i go out to tommyknockers every so often...i like their amber and the food is good.

[steveh]

Originally posted by b3s
of NB i've had the abbey (which i thought to be flat), trippel (which wasn't bad), flat tire (which is boring), and 1554 (which i found VERY good). oh, i also had the wheat, which was disappointing.

i go out to tommyknockers every so often...i like their amber and the food is good.

I reviewed my tastings of the NB Porch Swing and 1554 over in Tasting notes. I found them to be pretty terrific beers - and I'm on the side of Fat Tire being pretty mediocre. I have a bottle of the Abbey (thanks again to Fret) that I'm saving to savor this weekend and, hopefully, give my impressions on Monday.

I had the chance to stop at Tommyknocker's when in CO a couple years back, it looks like a pretty fun joint, beer was good too.

S.

[steveh]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
AND... for those of you who insist on making more Python references.... your MOTHER was a HAMSTER and your FATHER smelled of ELDERBERRIES!

ALRIGHT!! Enough of this silliness!! Let's move along now, move along - move along!

S.

;)

[b3s]

those people responsible for sacking the people responsible for the subtitles have been sacked.

[hops99]

Odell's 90 Schilling IS a wonderful beer, maybe the best single beer to be had in Colorado. I agree that Colorado's beer scene might be a tad overrated, especially compared to some of the midwestern states (my home turf), like Wisconsin and Michigan that are churning out amazing beer everywhere you turn. I'd take Bell's, Capital, Great Lakes, and MBC over Colorado breweries any day.

As for New Belgium, the Blue Paddle and Sunshine are true to style, albeit not my favorite styles, and we all know how polarizing Fat Tire can be - an ok brew that doesn't stack up with the 90 Schilling, if you were so inclined to compare. However, I do think NB makes some terrific beers, especially some of their seasonals. For example, the Porch Swing is as good as advertised, and if you really appreciate the intricacies of true Belgian styles, many of the other seasonals are outstanding; Saison, Biere De Mars, and 1554 to name a few.

Last but not least, anyone weigh in on the Flying Dog beers? I hate the labeling (just my own bias), but the brews are pretty good - specifically, I think the Tire Biter IPA is great

[b3s]

i got one of those mix packs...but it really turned into a 12-er of the IPA...good IPA...labels suck.

i agree on the overrated portion of CO beers...i miss WI beers. capital brewery, lakefront brewery...i miss those.

NB's 1554 is a really good beer. i enjoy that one quite a bit...but the only place i've seen it is on tap at the red lion in vail and i ain't going to vail too often!

[hopjack13]

we get the flying dog down here in socal but i was not real impressed with anything they had that i've tried , including the tire biter. i did think the lables were unique though ,im not sure if it's art , but still unique. the beer maybe better fresh im sure .
not to be too bias but having stone, alesmith,bear republic ect .. so avalible it's hard to find beers that match up to those standards, although they are out there and i have had quite a few of them. i think bells two hearted ale and oberon (sp?) are next on my must try list....right after three floyds darklord of course, if they do indeed bottle it this year.

[chazwicke]

I uncloga my nose on you. I fart in your general direction!

[denver brewhoo]

well, my favorite was always the pet shop...here's the conclusion:

'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!

THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!!

and while I like Odells a great deal, any discussion of best microbrewed beer in Colorado has to include Avery at or near the top of the list. Especially the Barleywine, the IPA and the ESB...but even the Reverend treads pretty effectively into the Belgian territory staked out by, erm, New Belgium.

[b3s]

lovely plumage, what?

i'll try avery as well.

[steveh]

Originally posted by denver brewhoo
well, my favorite was always the pet shop...here's the conclusion:

THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!!

If you've never seen the live on stage, command performance of England's best for the Queen version of The Parrot Sketch, you must seek it out! Cleese takes the 'Blue out of the cage and, because he has the full range of the play-house's ceiling, flings the bird some 20 feet straight up. Palin tries his best not to lose it on stage, with no help from Cleese who screams (as only Cleese can), "This is no LAUGHING matter!" Hilarious!

Also worth seeking out, the tribute to Python at the World Comedy Awards (or something like that - basically awards to comedians by their peers), held in Aspen I believe (see how I was able to bring that back to CO?), great behind the scene stories in a live interview of all the cast - including Graham Chapman...

A'wright, now back to the business at hand - enough of this silliness!

S.

[threecb]

I had FD Tire Biter a couple of years ago and I think I thought it was a passable ale. But then again, it obviously didn't leave a lasting impression on me...

AFA the artwork. The artist is Ralph Steadman, who is better known for supplying the artwork for Hunter S. Thompson's books, including Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. I was in the liquor store recently and saw that some winery had contracted him to do artwork for their labels, too. Just like the damn wineries, allways trying to copy what the breweries do!;)

And steve, that Python Aspen with Graham Chapman is priceless! A must see, I agree...

[skahtboi]

And now for something completely different....

[b3s]

...a man with 2 buttocks.

[steveh]

Originally posted by threecb
AFA the artwork. The artist is Ralph Steadman, who is better known for supplying the artwork for Hunter S. Thompson's books, including Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. I was in the liquor store recently and saw that some winery had contracted him to do artwork for their labels, too. Just like the damn wineries, allways trying to copy what the breweries do!

Actually, Steadman is big into the wine scene in England - distributor, vintner, winery owner, something or other - Richard might be able to enlighten. I remember seeing his illustrations all over a wine connoisseur newsletter in London when I was there a few years ago. [/B][/QUOTE]


And steve, that Python Aspen with Graham Chapman is priceless! A must see, I agree...

Classic Python in all ways! I did some brain racking and remembered that it was hosted by comedian Robert Klein and ran as an hour-long HBO special - HBO might have some more info. A must see for any Python fan.

S.

[threecb]

Actually, my "wineries copying breweries" thing was a tongue-in-cheek jab at the wine elitists...but interesting to know about Steadman.

[hopjack13]

wine sucks!

BEER RULES!!!

[chazwicke]

What is the wing speed velocity of an airbourne european sparrow carrying a two pound coconut?



MY brain hurts!

[threecb]

say no more, say no more, nudge-nudge, wink-wink. eh?

[chazwicke]

She turned me into a newt!

[fretlessman71]

Yes, chazwicke, but see, the difference here is, YOU'RE not going to get any better....:rolleyes:

[hopjack13]

im going to have to start watching monte python so that i may better ascertain precisely wtf is going on here! :D

[steveh]

Originally posted by chazwicke
What is the wing speed velocity of an airbourne european sparrow carrying a two pound coconut?

Uh, Chaz - it's a European Swallow! Stay away from well guarded suspension bridges! ;)

S.

[steveh]

Originally posted by threecb
Actually, my "wineries copying breweries" thing was a tongue-in-cheek jab at the wine elitists...but interesting to know about Steadman.

I got the jab {;)}, I just thought it was interesting that he was so involved...wonder if he works for any rolling paper firms?

Also, my profession is illustration, so I've been admiring the insane Mr. Steadman and his success for some time. Something of which to aspire!

Originally posted by hopjack13
wine sucks!

BEER RULES!!!

Now, now... wine is a good alternative at times, and nice change of pace.

S.

[threecb]

Originally posted by steveh
I got the jab {;)}, I just thought it was interesting that he was so involved...wonder if he works for any rolling paper firms?

i figured you got it, just makin' sure...and LOL on the papers comment.

Originally posted by steveh
Also, my profession is illustration, so I've been admiring the insane Mr. Steadman and his success for some time. Something of which to aspire!
S.

As a graphic designer myself, I too have been impressed with Steadman's unique style.

[b3s]

heh...it's not european...it's just an unladen swallow...the follow-up is "african or european"

i don't know that!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

:D

[chazwicke]

what is your favorite color?

Blue! No pink! AAAHHHHHHHHHHH

[Fast_Eddy]

'O Lord, bless this Thy hand grenade that, with it, Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits in Thy mercy.'

[hops99]

Hello, good evening, and welcome to blackmail!

[chazwicke]

and Nigel has run himself over!

[Herb Ninja]

"On second thought, lets not go to camalot, its a silly place."

"???: What do you do with witches?
Crowd: BURN BURN, BURN THEM
???: And What do you burn apart from witches?
Crowd: MORE WITCHES
???: Why do witches burn?
Crowd: Because they are made of .. wood?
???: Good. So if she weighs the same as wood, shes a witch!"

"Arthur: Look you you stupid bastard you got no arms left
Black Knight: Yes I have.
Arthur: Look.
Black Knight: Just a flesh wound.
Black Knight: I'll do you for that
Arthur: You'll what?
Black Knight: Come here.
Arthur: What are you gonna do bleed on me?
Black Knight: I'm invincible.
Arthur: You're a loony.
Black Knight: The Black Knight's always triumphs."

[b3s]

i wish there was some way to convey the ministry of silly walks in text form :D

[fretlessman71]

Does anyone here know how to recognize trees from a long distance away? Say, for example, the Larch?

O Lord, what have I started..... :rolleyes:

[b3s]

oh sod it, i don't want to be a weather forecaster...

on another note....


wittgenstein was a beery swine :D

drinking some more odell's 90 schilling and got a sixer of avery's red point amber.

[steveh]

Originally posted by b3s
oh sod it, i don't want to be a weather forecaster...

You realize that's not the original version, but some "best of" put together later by the BBC (or something)? I saw that version on HBO-Comedy and said, "Weather forecaster?" It was a psycho (razor, scissors, c-c-c-cutting) barber that he didn't want to be originally - guess the transition didn't work as well in the re-hash. :/

S.

[chazwicke]

NO MORE BLOODY LUPINS!!!

[steveh]

What about poin-ted sticks? ;)

S.

[b3s]

Originally posted by steveh
You realize that's not the original version, but some "best of" put together later by the BBC (or something)? I saw that version on HBO-Comedy and said, "Weather forecaster?" It was a psycho (razor, scissors, c-c-c-cutting) barber that he didn't want to be originally - guess the transition didn't work as well in the re-hash. :/

S.

and live they'd change it on the fly...yeah, i realize that :)

[Luther]

We can always find a Corona around here and + I get some more bottles...

[fretlessman71]

Just keep those bottles in the DARK when you're aging them, ok? Someone on here said that Corona tasted to them like somebody else already drank it once.... ewwwwww....

[hopjack13]

fizzy yellow corn flavored water! i'll take the bullet instaed...oh thats another thread....

[GunNut76]

Whew...just got back from getting some more shrubbary for a tiered effect and cutting down a tree with a herring! :D


NEE! NEE! NEE!

[Luther]

I tink I sed a b-a-a-a-a-d wud...lol. We were talking fallbacks weren't we?

Aw c'mon the sour taste isn't all that bad...

:rolleyes:

[Bryant]

I like Harp. It is pretty hoppy for a Lager and most of the places I visit have that avalable. I live in Alabama which is pretty much beer hell, so if the largest liquor/beer store doesn't have anything new and unique to try, I find myself with a six of Harp quite often anyway.
Killians Red or Amber Bock on tap is not absolutely horrible either. I don't frequent places that would have only those available, but special events like concerts often give you choices only exotic as those and they and I can palatte them.

Bryant

[steveh]

Originally posted by Luther
I tink I sed a b-a-a-a-a-d wud...lol. We were talking fallbacks weren't we?


Not a bad word, just understand that the majority of us regard it as a b-a-a-a-a-d beer! ;)

Yeah, we were talking fall-back - and the limits we set. I tried a Corona last year, just because I hadn't had one in so long, and came to the conclusion most of the members have: water.

S.

[threecb]

Originally posted by Bryant
I like Harp.

Yeah, I use Harp as my fallback beer on occasion in some local watering holes. It's not a bad option...

[Brownbeard]

Leinekugel's. It is a good brew that is remarkably cheap. I can usually get a case of long necks for $10 and the bottles are great for homebrew. I always keep some on hand.

[fretlessman71]

A CASE? As in 24 bottles for ten bucks? Holy cow! I've had Leinekugel's, too... passable by any standard to be sure. Wish I could get those in Tenn.... JEEZ. I'm just going to have to move again, I guess...

[chazwicke]

I agree that Leinies is worth drinking at that price. I liken it to Sam Adams level of drinkablilty. Nice tour of the brewery too.

[Brownbeard]

Yeah, I would equate Leinies and Sam Adams. Neither are beers I would turn down or be ashamed to have in the fridge when guests come over. Nothing special though.

[Brownbeard]

After moving from Minnesota to Iowa, my father in-law stopped drinking Leinies and started buying Icehouse, because Leinies is not available in the can here and he doesn't buy bottled beer.

[hnrblbrbrn]

I work in KC and live in Lawrence, some of the bars have the entire Boulevard (http://www.blvdbeer.com) menu of on tap.
Some of the chain restaurant/bars (Old Chicago and Barleys) has a large selection of the local stuff like Pony Express and 75th st too.
Depending on where you are there's a place in St Joe, The High Noon in Leavenworth, Free State in Lawrence, and the Blind Tiger in Topeka.

[hnrblbrbrn]

Originally posted by hopjack13
QUOTE]Originally posted by fretlessman71
And I've given up wondering what "33" means on their bottle. I just don't care.


another storie is that the $$$ they used to start the brewery with came from betting on a horse named old latrobe (sp?) #33 and thats why the horse is on the front

which i think is b.s. i don't think i've been to a horse race where the #'s on the horses were ever that high...I could be wrong though...but that hardly ever happens :rolleyes: [/QUOTE]

HMMM, could it be that that's the horse that makes the beer???

[hnrblbrbrn]

Originally posted by hops99
Last but not least, anyone weigh in on the Flying Dog beers? I hate the labeling (just my own bias), but the brews are pretty good - specifically, I think the Tire Biter IPA is great

I was won over to Flying Dog by their mixed litter, a random sample of their line. I like the Road Dog.

[fretlessman71]

Originally posted by Brownbeard
After moving from Minnesota to Iowa, my father in-law stopped drinking Leinies and started buying Icehouse, because Leinies is not available in the can here and he doesn't buy bottled beer.

Do you know if Leine's is available in Minnesota by the bottled case for $10 or so? I'm going up there TOMORROW for a day or two, and I'd love to stock up....

[steveh]

Originally posted by Brownbeard
Leinekugel's. It is a good brew that is remarkably cheap. I can usually get a case of long necks for $10 and the bottles are great for homebrew. I always keep some on hand.

Huh? All the Leinie's products around here are twist-off caps, and even the big likker lokker I hit in Wisc, doesn't have returnable cases... Something new in home-brew capping I don't know about?

S.

[Brownbeard]

Originally posted by steveh
Huh? All the Leinie's products around here are twist-off caps, and even the big likker lokker I hit in Wisc, doesn't have returnable cases... Something new in home-brew capping I don't know about?

S.

Regular Leinies here is in reusable bottles and comes in heavy cardboard cases. The other Leinenkugel's beers are all in twist off.

As far as the $10 cases in MN, I am not sure. I live in Iowa.

[steveh]

Originally posted by Brownbeard
Regular Leinies here is in reusable bottles and comes in heavy cardboard cases. The other Leinenkugel's beers are all in twist off.

I wonder if they choose not to sell the returnables in S. E. Wisc. because they compete too much with the Huber range of beers in returnables (for about the same cost per case - maybe less)?

S.

[fretlessman71]

Huber's not doing returnables anymore.... :( FAQs (http://www.huberbrewery.com/faq/)

[steveh]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
Huber's not doing returnables anymore.... FAQs (http://www.huberbrewery.com/faq/)

Whaaaat? It's the end of an era!! The liquor store I mentioned above has a ton of Huber cased returnables still in-stock -- anyone want me to make a run for the border? ;)

S.

BTW - with this news, now I'm *really* surprised Leinie's still offers returnables.

[fretlessman71]

If I were driving to Minneapolis from Nashville, just how far off the beaten path would I have to go to get this stuff? I think we're going to be passing through Rockford, if that gives you any indication of our route. I'd love to come back to town with some Huber and Leinekugel stuff for dirt cheap! Suggestions? We're leaving at about 4am tomorrow....

[hops99]

Heck, if you're going through Rockford, then heading up I-90 into Wisconsin, Monroe, WI (Home of the Huber brewery) is, I think, only about 1/2 hour West of the expressway. If you look at a map, I believe you'd want to get off at the first or second exit (Beloit) in Wisconsin, on Rt. 81. If you follow that West about 35 miles, you'll be in Monroe.

I've been all around Wisconsin, but never to Monroe. I've heard there's a cool place to visit - Baumgartner's Cheese Store, which is supposedly a great blend of good cheese and great beer (or maybe it's the other way around).

Good luck!

P.S. Gray's Brewing is just a little further North in Janesville (right off I-90), and they have a pretty decent brewery tour (and a goos pale ale), and there are several great places to go around Madison (also right off the highway).

[b3s]

monroe is nice...if you go through there for the beer, definitely get some cheese and sausage, too!

[fretlessman71]

IF we do this on Sunday, does anyone know if there are Sunday liquor laws in WI? I'm kind of at the mercy of someone else's schedule.

[GunNut76]

I don't know how Brownbeard gets a case of Leinie's for $10, but that don't matter. Here the Leinie's Original come in 24 pack returnable bottles for about $15 plus deposit of about $1.20 and we can get it in cans too. "Here" is Minnesota. I think in WI you can get beer on Sundays, but don't hold me to that, in MN liquor stores are closed but bars are open. Can't wait till I get my lagering equipment...I got a recipe for Creamy Dark from a brewer who works at the 10th street brewery.

[steveh]

Originally posted by fretlessman71
IF we do this on Sunday, does anyone know if there are Sunday liquor laws in WI? I'm kind of at the mercy of someone else's schedule.

The only possible trouble you might run into is a noon law (no liquor sales before noon) in some communities.

No beer on Sunday? C'mon now, it IS Wisconsin and when do the Packers play..? Of course, they're on Monday this week, but you get the idea! ;)

S.

[chazwicke]

How 'bout those gosh darn Packers!

[iluvbeer]

They never have quality beer whenever I go out to restaurants. I always have to settle for a lousy, watered-down, and undesirable Coors Lite, or even worse...a Bud!

[chazwicke]

Welcome. I'm not certain where you are from but most restraunts around here will have some version of Old Dominion's beers (one of our local breweries.) or at the very least Sam Adams. Many have Guinness. Otherwise, drink water.

[Fast_Eddy]

Originally posted by chazwicke
How 'bout those gosh darn Packers!

Go Vikings!!

[steveh]

Originally posted by Fast_Eddy
Go Vikings!!

#599 goes out to the Vikings:

What do you call a Viking player with a Super Bowl ring?

Thief.

Sorry Eddy. ;)

S.

[Fast_Eddy]

Originally posted by steveh
#599 goes out to the Vikings:

What do you call a Viking player with a Super Bowl ring?

Thief.

Sorry Eddy.

S.

OK - I'll burn #500 on this one.

What do you call a guy that's been a Vikings fan for 25 years?

A disconsolate, disillusioned, and dejected masochist. :(

I've been a fan since I was 8 years old(1978) and no Super Bowl since then. Come to think of it, maybe I'm the reason they haven't been to the big one since '77.

[hops99]

I think the Vikes should have won it all back in '98. I think they lost to Atlanta in OT in the Conference Title Game, and it was pretty clear they were the better team. Wow, I haven't been to an NFL game in a long time - are there any good craft beers (or fall-back beers, to keep this on subject) available at Football Stadiums these days (like the Metrodome)?

[steveh]

Originally posted by Fast_Eddy
...maybe I'm the reason they haven't been to the big one since '77.

Ain't you, it's the dome. The minute I heard they were going in outta the elements, I lost all respect for them. You see the old film footage of the Vikes out in the cold and snow and it looks like football.

If they ever domed Lambeau Field, I'd stop watching football.

To Hops - I haven't been to Lambeau since the face-lift, but a friend told me that (despite Miller being a big benefactor in funding backing) Sprecher available in many stands there. Gotta wonder if Hinterland is too.

S.

[Fast_Eddy]

Originally posted by hops99
I think the Vikes should have won it all back in '98. I think they lost to Atlanta in OT in the Conference Title Game, and it was pretty clear they were the better team. Wow, I haven't been to an NFL game in a long time - are there any good craft beers (or fall-back beers, to keep this on subject) available at Football Stadiums these days (like the Metrodome)?

I almost cried after that game - Gary Anderson had not missed a single field goal all season and he missed something like a 30 yarder that would've ended the game. Uggghhh....

[chazwicke]

Happy 500th Fast Eddie!! I would have sent congrats yesterday but My contractor who is doing my addition to my home cut my cable and I had no internet service or TV. Damn him!

[hopjack13]

give him a bottle of double bastard for that one!!!

[MmmBeer]

Sam Adams, the official fallback beer at almost any crap-bar in america. Not the best, but certainly better than the wretched fizzy yellow beers they have. I love the look on the face of the server when they think they're impressing you with the "michelob black and tan" on tap.

[Fast_Eddy]

Originally posted by chazwicke
Happy 500th Fast Eddie!! I would have sent congrats yesterday but My contractor who is doing my addition to my home cut my cable and I had no internet service or TV. Damn him!

Thx Chazzy - you should charge him back for all the "work time"(read posting on RealBeer) he costed you.

[BluesHarp]

Originally posted by steveh
Ain't you, it's the dome. The minute I heard they were going in outta the elements, I lost all respect for them. You see the old film footage of the Vikes out in the cold and snow and it looks like football.

If they ever domed Lambeau Field, I'd stop watching football.

To Hops - I haven't been to Lambeau since the face-lift, but a friend told me that (despite Miller being a big benefactor in funding backing) Sprecher available in many stands there. Gotta wonder if Hinterland is too.

S.


Steve, The new Lambeau is awesome; the last time I was there I drank Guiness, and I think (?) Newcastle all day. You have to go to the inside concessions to get it, they don't bring it around, but that's a small price to pay...oh, yeah, the stadium is nice too! :D

I'm going to the Eagles game Monday night...can't wait!!! I'll have to pick something up for the tailgate; it'll be cold, maybe a nice porter.

[steveh]

Originally posted by BluesHarp
I'm going to the Eagles game Monday night...can't wait!!! I'll have to pick something up for the tailgate; it'll be cold, maybe a nice porter.

Cool! And cool news 'bout the beer. Bring back a win!!

S.

[threecb]

Originally posted by barley ben
I'm only 30-45 minutes away from Yards and Flying Fish and the only place to get one on tap seems to be one expensive restraunt or drive up to the bars in that area.

I live in central NJ, and it p*sses me off that you can't find FF in more places in the state. Dammit, people, support the locals!