Love thy neighbor, watch your kids

[wortchillergoal]

I just learned of this site at another board. Those of you with kids will want to check it out.

www.familywatchdog.us/

It was quite interesting to see how many and how close these people are.

[HarkJohnny]

that is scary, but thank you.

[MeridianFC]

That's a great tool thanks for posting.

FWIW the Washington MPD have just added a tool where you can track all the crime in your area. It can be sorted by type and time period. Scarey but useful. If you don't have it in your area it might be worth recommending it to your local police.

[MikShau]

To make this beer related...

A large number of "sex offenders" are drunks, (beer tie in), that get caught "relieving" themselves in not so private places. Depends on how that particular state defines it. Change "peeing in public" to "indecent exposure" and he's on the list.

[dparsons]

Originally posted by MikShau
To make this beer related...

A large number of "sex offenders" are drunks, (beer tie in), that get caught "relieving" themselves in not so private places. Depends on how that particular state defines it. Change "peeing in public" to "indecent exposure" and he's on the list.

Yes, but do they live in middle class neighborhoods?

[Stahlsturm]

Things like that make me realize just how far Europe and the USA are apart...

[steveh]

Originally posted by Stahlsturm
Things like that make me realize just how far Europe and the USA are apart...

Because... child molesters are easier to identify in Europe? :confused:

S.

[Stonch]

Originally posted by Stahlsturm
Things like that make me realize just how far Europe and the USA are apart...

you and me both... scary...

Isn't this just a link to a website which harasses people who may or may not be a threat to one's family? Isn't it a massively inappropriate thing to promote, particularly here on a website which has nothing to do with such paranoid nonsense?

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[Stahlsturm]

Originally posted by steveh
Because... child molesters are easier to identify in Europe? :confused:

S.

Seeing how easy it is to become a sex offender in the USA I don't think that comment is appropriate.

Originally posted by MikShau
To make this beer related...

A large number of "sex offenders" are drunks, (beer tie in), that get caught "relieving" themselves in not so private places. Depends on how that particular state defines it. Change "peeing in public" to "indecent exposure" and he's on the list.

[Stonch]

It's the same in Britain. One of my father's students (he used to be a college lecturer) was put on the British sex offender's register because he was busted having a piss in a back alley after a night on the lash. Not right at all.

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[hooky]

I went and looked at who was near me and of the 3 within a 5 mile radius, all of them had multiple convictions for child molestation. There wasn't just a public indecency charge on their rap sheets. It's hard for me to look at it as a violation of someone's rights. What about my kid's rights?

I've got a buddy who got busted 18 years ago for taking a leak in an alley when we were walking home from the bar. I'm not on the list because I only had to outrun him, not the cop.

[Stahlsturm]

Originally posted by hooky
I went and looked at who was near me and of the 3 within a 5 mile radius, all of them had multiple convictions for child molestation. There wasn't just a public indecency charge on their rap sheets. It's hard for me to look at it as a violation of someone's rights. What about my kid's rights?

I've got a buddy who got busted 18 years ago for taking a leak in an alley when we were walking home from the bar. I'm not on the list because I only had to outrun him, not the cop.


How came these convictions to pass though ? Like that 17 year old kid who gave his 15 year old girlfriend a blowjob and was sentenced to 15 years in prison for child molestion in Georgia just recently ?

I'm certainly not speaking for child molestors, HELL NO, but I think you get on these lists far too easy and then you're branded for life.

[hooky]

I'm not trying to pick a fight, but please reread my post. All had multiple convictions for child molestation. Here's an example of one of them:

[35-42-4-3] CHILD MOLESTING - Cause: 29D039602CF29 - Sentence: 8 YEARS - Conviction County: HAMILTON - Conviction State: INDIANA - Conviction Date: 04/17/2003
[35-42-4-3] CHILD MOLESTING - Cause: 29D03-9602-CF-029 - Sentence: 2 YRS - Conviction County: HAMILTON - Conviction State: INDIANA - Conviction Date: 04/14/2003
[35-42-4-3] CHILD MOLESTING - Cause: 29D03-9602-CF-029 - Sentence: 8 YRS - Conviction County: HAMILTON - Conviction State: INDIANA - Conviction Date: 04/14/1997
[35-42-4-9] SEXUAL MISCONDUCT WITH A MINOR - Cause: 29D03-9602-CF-029 - Sentence: 8 YRS - Conviction County: HAMILTON - Conviction State: INDIANA - Conviction Date: 04/14/1997
[35-42-4-3] CHILD MOLESTING - Cause: - Sentence: 8 YEARS - Conviction County: HAMILTON - Conviction State: INDIANA - Conviction Date: 01/01/1997

The guy has a history of it and despite 2 convictions in April of 2003, one of which had an 8 year sentence, he's now living within 5 miles of my 2 young children.

I'd rather have the information to protect my kids at the expense of those who are the exceptions from taking a leak in an alley or a couple of teenagers having sex.

[Stahlsturm]

Originally posted by hooky
I'd rather have the information to protect my kids at the expense of those who are the exceptions from taking a leak in an alley or a couple of teenagers having sex.

And the kid in Georgia got 15 years for child molestion and I'm sure he'll be on this list too, once he's out. I know you're not picking a fight and I understand you're worried. What I'm saying is that you get on these lists far too easy.

[hooky]

I agree that it is easy to get on the list. I think we're in the same chapter of the book, just not on the same page, and that's good enough for me.

It's unfortunate that the system isn't better on both sides of offense.

[HarkJohnny]

Originally posted by Stahlsturm
And the kid in Georgia got 15 years for child molestion and I'm sure he'll be on this list too, once he's out. I know you're not picking a fight and I understand you're worried. What I'm saying is that you get on these lists far too easy.

I read about that dude today... he isn't currently because he didn't take the plea deal of 5 years jail time and register as a sex offender. that's why he got 15 years.

The unlucky bastard and his friends received oral... uh, service from a consenting girl who freely admits it was consensual and they get screwed (twice) for it. sometimes the law sucks, sometimes it blows. (sorry... bad pun)

[steveh]

Originally posted by Stahlsturm
Seeing how easy it is to become a sex offender in the USA I don't think that comment is appropriate.

I haven't yet heard how the judicial system works on this subject in Europe. Tell us how it works so much better.

S.

[MeridianFC]

I think the problem is not the list but fine tuning who ends up on it (and maybe looking at what qualifies as a true "Sex Offense"). Obviously two relativiely close in age teens having sex or some one taking a piss in the bushes while out on a spree are examples of the problem with the reporting system and/or the law, but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Leaving aside the exceptions, who in their right mind who has children would not want to know if there was a convicted child molester and/or rapist near by? That's definitely a case of knowledge is power.

[MeridianFC]

Some have alluded to this story so I thought I'd link it here to show some of the pitfalls of the legal aspects involved with "Sex Offender".

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=wilson

[wortchillergoal]

I did not see any thing but rape and sodomy charges on the few that showed up near me. I would agree that certain standards should need to be met when placing a name on a list like this.

Inregards to the teenager story, I have another one that IIRC was also in Georgia. A man in a court fight with his exwife got put in jail for performing oral sex on her. She asked him to knowing she could use the law to get back at him. She told her sister her plans. The sister testified on behalf of the ex husband telling the court the exwife planned all of this. The judge ruled it did not matter as the law was on the books and put the guy in jail.

[DecoJuicer]

You can not be put on the sex offender list for being busted one time for urinating in public, unless there are special circumstances.

When I was on the midnight shift at work, I helped the supervisor to rework or policy and to start tracking down(electronically) all of the sex offenders who hadn't been registering.

To be placed on the sex offender list for urinating in public, you have to have 3 convictions on file. They figure that if you get caught AND arrested/written a ticket 3 times, then you must want people to see you doing it.

I don't necessarily agree with the sex offender law. If these people are so dangerous that we need to keep track of them for the rest of their lives, why don't we just execute them and get rid of the problem all together. It would save a lot of paperwork, and maybe a few lives.