View Full Version : RU-21 Anti-hangover pill?
hopjack13
09-23-2003, 12:52 PM
wow! anyone try this tuff? know what it is? know someone that has? interesting , i may try it one day.
http://www.collegian.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/09/12/3f61471a7c7be
scully0325
10-02-2003, 12:03 PM
Hi - I tried it and I LOVE it - it really works. You still get drunk but you don't feel like crap the next day.
I searched ALL the search engines and different sites that
sell it but found it the cheapest with free US shipping here at RU-21 (http://www.ru-21.net)
Anyone else try it too? I can't be the only one who drinks too much :-)
Richard English
10-02-2003, 02:54 PM
I've always found that if I drink good beer (no added carbon dioxide; no heading compounds; no cheap adjuncts - just water, yeast, malt and hops) I never get a hangover.
toneyc
10-02-2003, 05:59 PM
While I sometimes have hangovers, I consider them my penance. Hangovers have become far less common for me now that I hardly ever drink commercial beer. I think the worst hangover I ever had was in the Phillipines, after a night of drinking San Miguel beer.
:)
Toney.
Richard English
10-03-2003, 01:51 AM
Which, I would remind you, is a "Methode Budweiser" drink.
I would add only that it's not a difference between homebrew and commercial beer - it's a difference between good and bad beer.
Sassy
10-11-2003, 12:55 PM
I have tried the Ru-21. I like it alot. It helps me because even if I drink two beers I get a hangover, and I usually have more than two. The cheapest I have found is www.ru-21hangover.com. They do free shipping. Also a good beer to try is Bohemia.
chazwicke
10-11-2003, 05:46 PM
I fortunately have not had a hangover in years. I agree with Richard that beer with no additives seems not to cause them.
hopjack13
10-13-2003, 05:46 PM
normally i stick with good beer myself, on the other hand i was at a bar and asked if they had any beer?? "yes" she said "we have bud miller coors ect.... " " hmm? no beer huh? okay i'll just have a jack and coke" i says.....but too many of those and your askin for a hangover! the pill may be needed after all...;)
Sassy
10-13-2003, 07:25 PM
Thats funny Hopjack!
hopjack13
10-13-2003, 10:11 PM
sad but true....
normally i can at least find a sierra navada , guinness or even a spam adams will do , but at that place there was nothing!
i dont know how many times snpa has bailed me out , but this time it just wasn't there.
as someone who has never had a hangover in his life, all i can say is what?
don't want hangovers? drink a gallon of water a day and at least a piece of bread for breakfast to soakup acids. take a couple of aspirin before going to bed. but most importantly: don't drink cheap crap and don't drink hop, meaning stick to similar drinks all night long.
heh, of course, the only part of that i follow is the gallon of water a day...well that and don't drink cheap crap! :D
Pappy
10-14-2003, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by toneyc
I think the worst hangover I ever had was in the Phillipines, after a night of drinking San Miguel beer.
:)
Toney.
One of my worst (and best) mornings after was in the Phillipines after mixing Mojo, Red Horse and San Miguel. Went home with a 10 at 2 and woke up in a muddy room, about 150 degrees with a jet in afterburner overhead...or was that the pounding in my head? And that 10 at 2 turned into a 2 at 10. I'd do it again in a second, though!!!!
Sassy
10-15-2003, 07:21 PM
I have heard that it is really bad for your liver to take aspirin after you have been drinking. Something about it magnifies the alcohol's toxic affect to the liver.
fuji6100
10-15-2003, 11:40 PM
I have heard that it is really bad for your liver to take aspirin after you have been drinking. Something about it magnifies the alcohol's toxic affect to the liver.
Actually, Tylenol is the one to stay away from if you are concerned about your liver. Tylenol is toxic to your liver, but in normal doses it doesn't hurt you at all. But add a couple of tylenol to a raging hangover, and your liver has more than it can handle.
Aspirin destroys platelets in your blood, thus lowering your clotting ability. Some of your clotting factors are produced/synthesized in the liver so those take a hit after a night of drinking. Bottom line, your blood is a little "thinner" after drinking, so taking asprin makes this a little worse. Still not as toxic as using tylenol though.
Use Ibuprophen for hangovers. It is eliminated in the kidneys, rather than the liver and the kidneys are well flushed after a night of drinking. Ibuprophen has a higher chance of irritating a queasy stomach, so take with food.
sorry, i should have been more specific...i only take ibuprofen anyway, but i use the generic term aspirin...not something that y'all would know ;)
hopjack13
10-17-2003, 12:26 AM
from what i understand anything you eat drink or inhale all goes through your liver.... i wonder if the RU-21 is damaging to the liver?
Herb Ninja
10-17-2003, 01:18 AM
I understand that what you eat and drink goes through the liver, but I wasn't aware that what you inhaled did too. I thought your lungs took care of that...
fuji6100
10-17-2003, 02:43 PM
The liver is one of the body's filters. All blood circulates through the liver. Anything in your bloodstream, no matter how it gets there goes through it (Things that are inhaled diffuse into your circulation via the alveolar capilaries in your lungs.) Not everything that goes through it, however, is filtered by it or toxic too it.
Fast_Eddy
10-17-2003, 03:12 PM
Back on topic...
I received my 40 RU-21 tablets and will be trying them at the Dixie Cup homebrew festival that's going on this weekend.
I'll report back about how effective they are for me.
Sassy
10-17-2003, 06:11 PM
Happy Friday! Cheers to everyone. I'll take two Bohemias please! Ok Maybe three if I take my Ru-21 and Ibuprofin :-).
evilredlight
10-18-2003, 03:35 PM
I think that hang over pill's name is so funny!
I f you add so extra words and punctuation
when getting the drinkthey ask
RU-21?
when you have had to many and are dancing on the table.
What RU-21?
when the goggle are an and you think you spot a hottie.
RU-21?
in the morning when you say I can drink like that every night
what are you, 21 or something?
Richard English
10-18-2003, 03:47 PM
Of course, in the UK the name doesn't work because the legal minimum drinking age here is 18!
Just another reason to live in England!
evilredlight
10-19-2003, 11:43 AM
19 in most provinces here (canada)
except quebec where it is 18
hopjack13
10-19-2003, 12:45 PM
well i guess im going to have to try the stuff sooner or later, although it's not very often i get hammered enough to need the stuff.......new years, however , will be here shortly.
Fast_Eddy
10-19-2003, 02:19 PM
I had enough beer to be considered excessive on Friday night and took the RU-21's ( less than the instructions say) and amazingly I felt pretty good the next morning. I drank from about 8 pm until 2 am, all types of beer with a high concentration of barley wine. I was up at 9 am the next morning for the mini-conference and had no problem at all. Maybe this stuff works.
Sassy
10-20-2003, 03:43 PM
I agree I took mine this weekend too and It worked great. I really Like where I got it from too because it was only 7.99 with free shipping--- the cheapest I've found. Does anyone know if mixing beer gives you a worse hangover? I know liquor and beer does, but I wondered about different kinds of beer.
Fast_Eddy
10-20-2003, 03:46 PM
Same place from which I purchased mine.
Some people say mixing beer types is bad some don't. I've never noticed an adverse reaction to it.
Sassy
10-20-2003, 03:51 PM
Fast_Eddie--
Thanks For the info. I just noticed that sometimes when I drink darker beer I get more of a hangover effect. Also, I am kind of a light weight and It really helps me if I eat something substantial before I drink.
PS--- How do you know we got our pills from the same place.
hopjack13
10-20-2003, 03:57 PM
i hear even a glass of milk before going out drinking will help absorb the alcohol .
JimDownUnder
10-20-2003, 03:58 PM
I found that it is even cheaper at RU-21.TV, from 6.50 for one all the way down to 4.25 for their MAXIMUM offer. They run unadvertised specials to those who have purchased product in the past.
Fast_Eddy
10-20-2003, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by Sassy
Fast_Eddie--
PS--- How do you know we got our pills from the same place.
From way back on 10-11-2003 you posted a link to http://www.ru-21hangover.com. That's the link I followed and ordered from.
Richard English
10-20-2003, 04:04 PM
Food, especially fatty food, slows down the rate of absorbtion of alcohol. Milk is quite fatty and will have this effect.
One of the causes of hangover is dehydration (and alcohol is a diuretic - it makes you pee more) so drinking stronger concentrations will increase the dehydration. This is one reason why drinking good beers with modest alcohol concentrations will usually cause fewer problems through dehydration. Drinking a glass of water before retiring will help prevent dehydration.
The other cause for the hangover headache is, as has been discussed previously, certain of the additives used in poor beers. I suggest that neither milk nor pre-retirement water will help to prevent such chemically induced headaches.
JimDownUnder
10-20-2003, 04:12 PM
It's not JUST for those who "get hammered"! As I understand it (from the "How Alcohol Affects the Body" text on RU-21.TV on their "More Abour RU-21" link) this stuff helps protect even the moderate drinker. It is simply a way help metabolize the acetaldehyde that results from drinking alcohol. Therefore I wouldn't think of it as only if your going out to get hammered?
Sassy
10-20-2003, 04:35 PM
Eddie-
I remember now.
I have encountered hangovers that last for more than one day even though I didnt drink a ton of beer. Im thinking alot of it had to do with the lack of sleep factor to. I will have to remember the milk and fatty food thing. I tried a new beer called JW Dundees Honey Brown. Has anyone tried that beer. It is mild with a hint of sweet taste. I liked it alot.
chazwicke
10-20-2003, 07:27 PM
I have not tried the J W Dundees. I believe it is a Genessee product.
hops99
10-20-2003, 07:46 PM
JW Dundees is a Genesee/High Falls product, and I wouldn't go out of your way to try it. It seemed to peak in popularity about 5-7 years ago, and is akin (IMO) to a Michelob Amber Bock or other macro attempt at crafting.
If on a desert island, I'd certainly drink my share, but otherwise it's not my cup o' tea.
Sassy
11-02-2003, 10:31 AM
Happy Sunday. I drank alot of beer last night and I need a really good breakfast. I had a beer called Pyramid. It was kind of light, but I liked it alot.
chazwicke
11-02-2003, 11:30 AM
The Pyramid line used to be quite good. It has been a while since I tried any of them.
hopjack13
11-02-2003, 01:17 PM
i've seen it but never tried it....maybe i'll give it a shot...or 12 ;)
chazwicke
11-02-2003, 01:52 PM
I think they used to make a seasonal called Snow cap. It was dee-lish!. Again, I have not had any Pyramid for several years so I hesitate to whole heartedly recommend any of them.
GunNut76
11-03-2003, 02:17 AM
I don't get hangovers!:D Even after consuming copius amounts of swill! Just lucky I guess.
hopjack13
11-03-2003, 02:09 PM
you didn't have to have a small device surgically implanted in your throat did you? :D
GunNut76
11-03-2003, 02:52 PM
No I just don't get hangovers...don't know why but it helps with the fact that I love beer! Good DNA?:D
Sassy
11-03-2003, 02:54 PM
I would love to not get hangovers!
chazwicke
11-03-2003, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by hopjack13
you didn't have to have a small device surgically implanted in your throat did you? :D
I had mine done in Morrocco.
hopjack13
11-03-2003, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by chazwicke
I had mine done in Morrocco.
LMAO...think i'll have to go there one day and find a good surgeon
;)
steveh
11-03-2003, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by GunNut76 No I just don't get hangovers...
How old are you? There was a time when *I* didn't get hangovers either...those were the days.
S.
Fast_Eddy
11-03-2003, 04:23 PM
Yeah, me too - the good ole' days ;)
chazwicke
11-03-2003, 04:39 PM
I'm in agreement with Richard, I don't usually get them and I attribute it to good beer without adjuncts. And of course the lower carbonation in the cask ales does not hasten the effects of alcohol as it does with the fizzy beers. Hey, where is Richard anyway? We haven't heard form him for a while. He never reported back on the draught Fullers 1845.
Fast_Eddy
11-03-2003, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by chazwicke
I'm in agreement with Richard, I don't usually get them and I attribute it to good beer without adjuncts. And of course the lower carbonation in the cask ales does not hasten the effects of alcohol as it does with the fizzy beers. Hey, where is Richard anyway? We haven't heard form him for a while. He never reported back on the draught Fullers 1845.
I don't drink any beer with adjuncts but if I have 10-12 pints(imperial pints - 100-140 oz total) I'll feel it in the morning. It's right to say that it's nothing like hangovers were when I would drink A-B crap.
scully0325
01-23-2004, 05:50 PM
amen to THAT Steve (Moderator) I didn't USED TO get hangovers either, however now that I am 34 I find I definately get them even with a ton of water, etc. etc.. so this RU-21 has worked wonders for me - got it here, free shipping
http://www.ru-21.net
Just not as young as I used to be (duh!)
:-)
JimDownUnder
01-23-2004, 07:26 PM
Try www.RU-21.TV! They are the cheapest I have found on the net. And ALWAYS free shipping. Same day too, except of course for Sunday! :D
scully0325
01-23-2004, 07:57 PM
I paid too much..? You can get it as cheap as $5.25 a box at the site I went to, it costs $6.75 on the site you went to. I actually got 12 boxes for $78 (passed out to my friends) - so that cost me $6.50 a box, cheaper when I do the math. Not to mention they seem more trustworthy since their url is www.ru-21.net and the main company is www.ru-21.com so I think they are an original distributor. Anyway, it's all good.
http://www.ru-21.net
JimDownUnder
01-23-2004, 09:17 PM
The single price at RU-21.TV is 6.75 as opposed to 7.99 at the site you bought from. You paid 78 dollars for 12? Look over RU-21.TV again. 12 there is 72.00. And I probably shouldn't say it, but I happen to know that this site has a "secret" site for frequent buyers that is even cheaper. But not with standing, RU-21.TV is cheaper then the site you are talking about. 12 packets at 72 dollars is 6.00 each.
But whatever, if you find a site you like really well and are comfortable with then that is really more important then the cost anyway. I just know that I first saw RU-21 on TV, so the first place to logically look is RU-21.TV. There it was. But you gotta' buy from whomever your the most comfortable with, even if the price is a little higher. (at least that is how I feel)
Caffinehog
01-23-2004, 09:23 PM
Great stuff... but remember, it DELAYS and PROLONGS the metabolism of alcohol. This decreases the amount of damage in any given time, and lets your body do some healing of itself. So instead of waking up tired with a splitting headache, a situation which lasts for a few hours, I wake up OK, but get tired and have a mild heacache around lunch, and that seems to last the rest of the day. It's WAY better than having a hangover, though!!!!
JimDownUnder
01-23-2004, 09:26 PM
And RU-21.net as well as RU-21.TV are both authorized distributors of RU-21. At least according to the RU-21.com site. And RU-21.TV has been around a bit longer (as evidenced by the whois lookup of domain names and viewing the creation date). As well as RU-21.NET domain expires in 2004 while RU-21.TV does not expire until like 2013. I know that is no big deal, but they at least PLAN to be around for the next 10 years, while RU-21.net is just experimenting with the RU-21 thing it seems.
But again, it is who YOU personally are comfortable with. That is what it comes down too.
scully0325
01-23-2004, 09:41 PM
sounds like you would know, sounds like you personally run www.ru-21.tv (spamming your own site I bet) - don't know who owns what or how long but even the Telegraph Article in the UK linked to www.ru-21.net
JimDownUnder
01-23-2004, 09:44 PM
Funny how you can find things out in the whois - as well as the parent site (and of course buying from the site helps).
JimDownUnder
01-23-2004, 09:54 PM
They are run out of Scottsdale Arizona, are hosted by Godday.com, their primary DNS is WSC1.JOMAX.NET, the secondary is WSC2.JOMAX.NET. The listed address is 15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160, Scottsdale, Arizona 85260.
I could go on and on. I do not have first hand knowledge of their shipping or service side however, since I have never ordered from them. (Oh I know, I own BOTH RU-21.TV and RU-21.NET).
Just ribbing you now. I need to quite this thread for a little while I am beginning to like this to much! :D
scully0325
01-23-2004, 10:27 PM
me too - have a drink - I am :-)
Sassy
07-31-2004, 07:52 PM
I found the best DWI attorney!!!! The best thing is not to drink and drive in the first place, but if you do you need Erick Platten .
His web address is www.tylerjustice.com
Cheers
I don't know if I'm missing something here but yesterday, after reading this thread, I went to RU-21.com's store locator, put in my zip-code and was amazed how many local stores carry it. I'm in Los Angeles-Silverlake and bought a pack of 20 at Gelson's Market for less than 5 bucks. I tried it last night and it seemed to work. I followed the recommended dosage of 1 with each drink, though after a few it was hard to remember. I drank 2 Miller Lites,
2 vodka/orange juice, 3 gin/tonic and a shot of Jack. This much hard stuff always gives me a nasty hangover. This morning I woke up and had only a very slight one. And btw, I didn't seem to get quite as tipsy. Also, you'll notice 5 of the 8 drinks were vodka or gin. I did that purposely because I read at Realbeer or someplace that these two have the lowest amount of whatever it is that causes hangovers and toxicity. My biggest drinking night lately is Sunday due to pool playing, consequently Monday mornings are my worst hangovers. This one was no biggy.
The store locator also showed Ralphs Market and GNC.
Sassy
08-02-2004, 05:35 PM
Hi Vato-
A while back you could only buy ru-21 on the internet. Now you can get it at GNC.
Guiness Man
05-02-2006, 07:25 PM
I have been using RU-21 for almost two years now. I never go drinking without it. Compared to other hangover pills, the price is better and the product always works. The only hangovers that I have had in the past two years have been when I forgot to bring my RU-21.
The only problem is that it can be hard to find in stores. The store locator listed several stores in my area, but I checked out a few of them and either the product that they had on the shelf was expired, or they no longer carried it. I found that the best way to get it is to order it online. I have found a couple of websites that have really good prices.
My favorite site that I now always order from has great prices for RU-21 with really cheap and fast shipping. I compared this site to another one with free shipping and even though Discount RU-21 charges for shipping, the total price is still much lower and faster with free package tracking on most orders. It would definitely be worth your time to check it out: Discount RU-21 (http://www.discountru21.com)
fretlessman71
05-02-2006, 09:50 PM
Wow - that's an OLD thread. Anyone here still use this stuff? (Other than our esteemed new member, of course - welcome to the board, Guinness Man! You sure this isn't a thinly veiled attempt at board spam? ;) )
Guiness Man
05-02-2006, 11:25 PM
This is an old thread, but I just found out about this beer site today. I was just shopping around for a good price on RU-21 and when I Googled RU-21 to see what was out there, this thread came up on the first page. It caught my attention and I just wanted to put in my two cents worth. After the hangovers that I had suffered with over the years, I was greatful to the person that turned me on to this stuff.
This is one of the more interesting sites that I have found. I've been thinking about brewing my own beer soon - but that's a discussion for another thread. However, any tips about home brewing for a novice would be appreciated.
Richard English
05-03-2006, 01:51 AM
I have found that Guinness is not one of the best beers to drink if you wish to avoid a hangover. It's better than chemical fizz, of course, but it's still not as good as a decent cask-conditioned ale.
I don't think I've ever seen RU21 in the UK - or indeed any dedicated hangover cure. Of course, this might simply be because drugs are not sold in quite the same way here as they are in the USA. Apart from immediate remedies for minor complaints - headaches, gastric upsets, colds and the like - most people here would simply go to their doctor and accept the medication prescribed under the NHS.
HogieWan
05-03-2006, 09:39 AM
RU-21 is basically a few vitamins and carbon (which acts as a filter by absorbing impurities) Check this long explanation (http://health.howstuffworks.com/hangover.htm) of hangovers and remedies.
Eating some burnt toast (really black) will give the same effect as ru-21. It's also much cheaper and easier to find. A banana and water will make a big difference, too
Non-filtered beer has fresh yeast still floating around, which replaces some missing vitamins (same as those added by ru-21). So drinking some good unfiltered beer will aid the hangover. Or just putting one good hefeweisen in the mix will do wonders.
chazwicke
05-03-2006, 09:52 AM
I never get hangovers anymore. My feeling is that the lack of adjuncts in most of the beer that I drink and the fact that I practice moderation is probably why.
corkybstewart
05-03-2006, 11:41 AM
The only proven way to avoid hangovers is to be very mederate. There may be some herbal remedies or chemical cocktails that help, but moderation or abstinence are the best ways, and abstinence isn't even a consideration.
scully0325
10-08-2008, 12:13 PM
An oldy but goody, especially with the recent articles about vitamin B and hangover prevention
steveh
10-08-2008, 12:46 PM
Recent articles? I learned about B vitamins as a hangover remedy from a late 70s episode of M*A*S*H.
S.
iahebert
10-08-2008, 03:54 PM
as someone who has never had a hangover in his life, all i can say is what?
don't want hangovers? drink a gallon of water a day...
AMEN to that!
Whenever I go out drinking, I make sure i'm going one for one water for drink.
The biggest cause of a hangover is dehydration. Drink water, live hangover free.
Fouled Anchor
10-08-2008, 08:23 PM
I seem to dodge hangovers with my homebrew and craft/micro brews. But I remember hangovers being pretty common when I was drinking domestic beer and from big box beers overseas. You are right on with the one for one water and dehydration. That plays big into it.
Anyone got anything on the myth of drinking yourself sobber?
dparsons
10-09-2008, 02:12 AM
The ingredient list is accessble on the site. It has VITAMINS in it, as well as a little protein and some organic acids. These ingredients help break the alcohol down in a way that doesn't create the toxic components and help the body to defend itself against degrading effects. The ingredients are largely available in vitamin pills, so if you're paying much more just go buy the vitamins.
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